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this is beyond ridiculous. ITS A FUCKING FORUM! jesus people need to lighten up.
 
this is beyond ridiculous. ITS A FUCKING FORUM! jesus people need to lighten up.

Rudy, you should stop being so selfish. You should realize and understand that your schtick bothers people. If you have a sense of what it means to be in a society, you would respond appropriately and tone your act down. And it is an act.
 
Rudy, you should stop being so selfish. You should realize and understand that your schtick bothers people. If you have a sense of what it means to be in a society, you would respond appropriately and tone your act down. And it is an act.

Part of being a member of a free society is tolerating those with quirks, and those who are abrasive in nature. As I posted earlier, many of the same people complaining about over-moderation at BBF are now complaining about under-moderations at S2. I fully recognize that I've had my own battles with mods over the years, but those were all related to my own personal views of what a moderator should have been, and not a constant demand that posters who fall outside of the norm be banned.

Let's take chrisinpdx, for example. I generally disagree with his posts, he's the angriest poster here, IMO, and he goes on and on about MIXUM while derailing threads on his own accord. That said, I bypass commenting on most of his posts, and in those that I do respond to, we often end up in an understanding with each other. I tolerate his extreme behavior, and have even grown to try and help him channel his obvious anger into the more productive emotion, passion.

:)
 
Part of being a member of a free society is tolerating those with quirks, and those who are abrasive in nature. As I posted earlier, many of the same people complaining about over-moderation at BBF are now complaining about under-moderations at S2. I fully recognize that I've had my own battles with mods over the years, but those were all related to my own personal views of what a moderator should have been, and not a constant demand that posters who fall outside of the norm be banned.

Let's take chrisinpdx, for example. I generally disagree with his posts, he's the angriest poster here, IMO, and he goes on and on about MIXUM while derailing threads on his own accord. That said, I bypass commenting on most of his posts, and in those that I do respond to, we often end up in an understanding with each other. I tolerate his extreme behavior, and have even grown to try and help him channel his obvious anger into the more productive emotion, passion.

:)

It's not "quirky" behavior, it's anti-social. For example, jlprk is quirky. Rudy Colella's behavior is anti-social. And those with anti-social behavior characteristics aren't accepted, but punished.

I look at this place like a bar. I don't necessarily care if someone buys me a drink, but I don't want to get 86'ed from a place. I'll speak my mind, but I won't antagonize someone so much they'd want to punch me in the face. And if I were a bar owner, I'd chuck the person antagonizing everyone else rather than the person throwing the punch.
 
It's not "quirky" behavior, it's anti-social. For example, jlprk is quirky. Rudy Colella's behavior is anti-social. And those with anti-social behavior characteristics aren't accepted, but punished.

I look at this place like a bar. I don't necessarily care if someone buys me a drink, but I don't want to get 86'ed from a place. I'll speak my mind, but I won't antagonize someone so much they'd want to punch me in the face. And if I were a bar owner, I'd chuck the person antagonizing everyone else rather than the person throwing the punch.

Well, at a bar, people are directly paying money to the owner, and then have more of a say, if they are customers who help pay for the bar while trying to ignore distractions.. I agree with your analogy in that MIXUM is the freeloading guy at the end of the bar sipping on a PBR all night, while talking junk at the same time, but the reality of it is that at this website, ownership tolerates that person, and really has no need to get rid of him because he brings in extra business via board hits.

I don't see how anyone can blame Denny for this. The majority of posters complaining don't post much at other sites, either, and with some of them, I remember the same complaints at BBF. Then, when they were hit with the ban hammer as well, they fled that open bar and set up camp at another open bar.

The best way to minimize a MIXUM is to set up a fee-based site, IMO. Since nobody seems willing to do that, and take that financial risk on their own, I have a hard time sympathizing with the "BAN HIM!!!" crowd.
 
Well, at a bar, people are directly paying money to the owner, and then have more of a say, if they are customers who help pay for the bar while trying to ignore distractions.. I agree with your analogy in that MIXUM is the freeloading guy at the end of the bar sipping on a PBR all night, while talking junk at the same time, but the reality of it is that at this website, ownership tolerates that person, and really has no need to get rid of him because he brings in extra business via board hits.

I don't see how anyone can blame Denny for this. The majority of posters complaining don't post much at other sites, either, and with some of them, I remember the same complaints at BBF. Then, when they were hit with the ban hammer as well, they fled that open bar and set up camp at another open bar.

The best way to minimize a MIXUM is to set up a fee-based site, IMO. Since nobody seems willing to do that, and take that financial risk on their own, I have a hard time sympathizing with the "BAN HIM!!!" crowd.

We have different viewpoints on this issue.
 
Well, at a bar, people are directly paying money to the owner, and then have more of a say, if they are customers who help pay for the bar while trying to ignore distractions.. I agree with your analogy in that MIXUM is the freeloading guy at the end of the bar sipping on a PBR all night, while talking junk at the same time, but the reality of it is that at this website, ownership tolerates that person, and really has no need to get rid of him because he brings in extra business via board hits.

I don't see how anyone can blame Denny for this. The majority of posters complaining don't post much at other sites, either, and with some of them, I remember the same complaints at BBF. Then, when they were hit with the ban hammer as well, they fled that open bar and set up camp at another open bar.

The best way to minimize a MIXUM is to set up a fee-based site, IMO. Since nobody seems willing to do that, and take that financial risk on their own, I have a hard time sympathizing with the "BAN HIM!!!" crowd.

I think the difference, though, is that the hits it is increasing is temporary, and will go drop swiftly when people tire of the schtick. His actions might show an immediate increase in board activity, but shortly after, it'd drop. And then those running the board are left to wonder, was it bets to promote the "free speech" and experience that temporary hit to all of a sudden lose the entire board?

I was not a part of BBF, but from what I have read, I don't think it's fair to criticize those asking Mixum be banned as hypocritical, since they fled somewhere after being banned. There's too much and too little. And there's certainly a happy medium to be met.
 
Well, at a bar, people are directly paying money to the owner, and then have more of a say, if they are customers who help pay for the bar while trying to ignore distractions.. I agree with your analogy in that MIXUM is the freeloading guy at the end of the bar sipping on a PBR all night, while talking junk at the same time, but the reality of it is that at this website, ownership tolerates that person, and really has no need to get rid of him because he brings in extra business via board hits.

I don't see how anyone can blame Denny for this. The majority of posters complaining don't post much at other sites, either, and with some of them, I remember the same complaints at BBF. Then, when they were hit with the ban hammer as well, they fled that open bar and set up camp at another open bar.

The best way to minimize a MIXUM is to set up a fee-based site, IMO. Since nobody seems willing to do that, and take that financial risk on their own, I have a hard time sympathizing with the "BAN HIM!!!" crowd.

WOULD SOMEBODY PLEASE BAN THIS JERK?!?!?!?!?!?!
 
Rudy, you should stop being so selfish. You should realize and understand that your schtick bothers people. If you have a sense of what it means to be in a society, you would respond appropriately and tone your act down. And it is an act.

They told Lenny Bruce and George Carlin the same thing.

I'm glad it fell on deaf ears.

Survival of the fittest and all that. Nikolokolus appeared to be made of sturdier stuff, but apparently there's a chink in his armor somewhere, an achilles heel, some deep, dark secret he doesn't dare speak aloud, that gnaws at the center of his being...

Or maybe he's just too embarrassed to tell us he can't afford internet for awhile. :dunno:
 
Part of being a member of a free society is tolerating those with quirks, and those who are abrasive in nature. As I posted earlier, many of the same people complaining about over-moderation at BBF are now complaining about under-moderations at S2. I fully recognize that I've had my own battles with mods over the years, but those were all related to my own personal views of what a moderator should have been, and not a constant demand that posters who fall outside of the norm be banned.

Let's take chrisinpdx, for example. I generally disagree with his posts, he's the angriest poster here, IMO, and he goes on and on about MIXUM while derailing threads on his own accord. That said, I bypass commenting on most of his posts, and in those that I do respond to, we often end up in an understanding with each other. I tolerate his extreme behavior, and have even grown to try and help him channel his obvious anger into the more productive emotion, passion.

:)

Papa Doc?
 
It's not "quirky" behavior, it's anti-social. For example, jlprk is quirky. Rudy Colella's behavior is anti-social. And those with anti-social behavior characteristics aren't accepted, but punished.

I look at this place like a bar. I don't necessarily care if someone buys me a drink, but I don't want to get 86'ed from a place. I'll speak my mind, but I won't antagonize someone so much they'd want to punch me in the face. And if I were a bar owner, I'd chuck the person antagonizing everyone else rather than the person throwing the punch.

Is that a Libertarian view? Punish the misfit? Kick the underdog? Stifle the free exchange of thought?

Anyone who has ever wanted to punch Mixum in the face for something he said in an internet forum post is dangerously insane IMO, and I urge them to seek professional help before they hurt themselves or someone else.

Get a grip folks, this isn't the real world here.

And even if you have trouble distinguishing real life from internet forum life, most of you are Americans and should be ashamed of yourselves for censoring or intimidating free speech, or even wishing to.
 
The good news is Nik will make a dramatic return next season along with Sergio!
 
You forgot the asterisk on your u/n

American Hero? More like American Coward.
 
Papa Doc?

More like Baby Doc. Papa Doc is dead. Baby Doc went into self-imposed exile for awhile, then returned.

Yeah, definitely Baby Doc.

barfo
 
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Telling little kids to smoke cigarettes is terrible
 
It was a big, big deal when Maris broke the record. We boys looked up to him. He wasn't a coward. And everyone smoked in front of kids. It was and is no problem.
 

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