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MarAzul said:
I have no idea why it would get you so worked.
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really marz….I don't get worked up about any of this stuff....I was addressing discussions...just pointing out that you don't seem to engage in them much..as I said, those cut and pasted editorials are on the internet for anyone choosing to read them, I just don't think they apply to the forum here or add anything of interest...I like Lanny ...maris I don't take seriously..he's in character admittedly but he has good taste in music.
 
riverman said:
.just pointing out that you don't seem to engage in them much
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Yes, I often do not engage with the liberal people in this forum about subjects where it is obvious we will not agree. Rather pointless. I probably do so when they go over the top with insulting shit, but that is still pointless. Sly will delete the appropriate response anyway.
 
MarAzul said:
Damn near forgot it myself.

What is "Whitesplaining"? You objected to this as used by dviss. I don't even know what it means?
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Its like when you try to tell your wife something, you know, to explain your opinion on anything female, you are "Mansplaining"

See, the premise is that unless you are X, you are not allowed to have an opinion on the subject.
 
DaLincolnJones said:
Its like when you try to tell your wife something, you know, to explain your opinion on anything female, you are "Mansplaining"

See, the premise is that unless you are X, you are not allowed to have an opinion on the subject.
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Ah! Now I see.
 
MarAzul said:
Damn near forgot it myself.

What is "Whitesplaining"? You objected to this as used by dviss. I don't even know what it means?
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oh..it's explaining things from a white perspective....blacksplaining is explaining things from a black perspective...I prefer humansplaining….leaving the color definitions out of the explanations is my preference
 
MarAzul said:
Damn near forgot it myself.

What is "Whitesplaining"? You objected to this as used by dviss. I don't even know what it means?
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I misread his post...was tired as I get a bit blurry after 10 heart pills a day..late at night I shouldn't post much because of that , it was actually white washing he used...I think I was remembering another post of his from another thread..he corrected me.
 
DaLincolnJones said:
Its like when you try to tell your wife something, you know, to explain your opinion on anything female, you are "Mansplaining"

See, the premise is that unless you are X, you are not allowed to have an opinion on the subject.
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Whatever-splaining means referring to a marginalized group of people and telling them how they should react to or feel about something when the "Splainer" couldn't possibly know because they've never been (and never can or will be) a part of the group.

You're always allowed to have an opinion about anything even if it's an ignorant one.
 
riverman said:
copying and pasting Fox news editorials is not discussion or debate....nor is your post about the value of opposing opinions to yours....practice what you preach. Seems you only want to discuss if it includes agreement with your opinions. I have no interest in daily Fox news articles....those who do can go to their website and read that crap all day long...remember Hanoi Hannah? That shit was broadcast everywhere during the war...it's not discussion anymore than maris' cut and paste propaganda is...original thought and values are much more interesting. Especially when they are on topic. Covert politics have always existed...as to some Deep State paranoia...I don't buy it. America's biggest problem is greed and partisan bickering.
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The greed aspect has been raised to a new and astronomical level.
 
Spud147 said:
Whatever-splaining means referring to a marginalized group of people and telling them how they should react to or feel about something when the "Splainer" couldn't possibly know because they've never been (and never can or will be) a part of the group.

You're always allowed to have an opinion about anything even if it's an ignorant one.
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I would never try to tell my Bride she is "marginalized" , hahaha but yeah, you splained it better than I
 
riverman said:
really marz….I don't get worked up about any of this stuff....I was addressing discussions...just pointing out that you don't seem to engage in them much..as I said, those cut and pasted editorials are on the internet for anyone choosing to read them, I just don't think they apply to the forum here or add anything of interest...I like Lanny ...maris I don't take seriously..he's in character admittedly but he has good taste in music.
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90% of my posts are straight news without any commentary, originally from the Associated Press and picked up by FOX. They republish articles from all credible news sources around the world. No other news outlet has anywhere near the variety and completeness of world-wide news of all topics, nor the depth of reporting covering our government's agencies and their daily actions.

It's clear from your posts you don't get the news from anywhere very often as you don't know major what's going on in the real world.

It's also clear you don't read other people's posts, but you comment on them just the same.

Rude, to say the least.
 
MarAzul said:
Yes, I often do not engage with the liberal people in this forum about subjects where it is obvious we will not agree. Rather pointless. I probably do so when they go over the top with insulting shit, but that is still pointless. Sly will delete the appropriate response anyway.
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There are a few very liberal posters here that bring solid arguments and enjoy respectful debating, jlprk, theprunetang Kingspeed and some others, but they don't seem to be around much lately. :cheers:

It's summer, and they probably have lives. :dunno:
 
riverman said:
oh..it's explaining things from a white perspective....blacksplaining is explaining things from a black perspective...I prefer humansplaining….leaving the color definitions out of the explanations is my preference
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Wouldn't you need to be talking to non-humans to do that?

Technically speaking.
 
MARIS61 said:
respectful debating
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On @jlprk I would agree. We had our difference early but it was my error as much if not more than he.
@theprunetang is nearly a friend but I fear he can't be. It's a virtue signaling thing I fear.

@KingSpeed maybe the have the same signaling issue. I remember, the day I announced that I had lost my healthcare, Kingspeed announced he and his now had it or soon would have. He was pleased and I was distraught at the loss that took more than 30 years to earn.

But it was the plan of the Messiah. You could read it long before he was elected, Zeke Emanuel had made it known long before the Messiah was anointed.
 
Since libs seem absolutely terrified of FOX NEWS, I'll just do a summary of today's news deep-state-wise.

Bruce Ohr's testimony before Congress directly contradicted bot James Comey's testimony and Lisa Page's testimony.

This means 1, 2, or perhaps all 3 lied under oath and will be eventually facing perjury charges.

Ohr confirmed the FBI has repeatedly leaked to reporters in order to then use the news story as justification for FISA warrants. The Fake Steele Dossier was but one of many times they lied to the court to get warrants. He confirmed the FBI deliberately withheld from the FISA court that the dossier was judged by them to be fake, and that it was paid for by Trump's political opponent Hillary Clinton, the DNC, and the FBI. Whoever signed the warrant application (Comey?) is looking at jail time.

Testimony made clear Ohr illegally hid from the FBI the fact that his wife had a highly paid job with Fusion GPS working with a rogue Trump-hating British spy (Steele, also paid by Fusion GPS and Clinton) and Putin's favorite oligarch Oleg Deripaska, while also getting paid on the side from Clinton, to rig the 2016 US Presidential Election.
 
MARIS61 said:
signed the warrant application
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I think these are the warrants used to "wire tape" Trump and his people right? This power must be eliminated from any possibility to be repeated. If it is possible then you know the ungodly will seize the opportunity. We have proof before us. But Rachael Maddow will never figure it out.
 
MARIS61 said:
Since libs seem absolutely terrified of FOX NEWS, I'll just do a summary of today's news deep-state-wise.

Bruce Ohr's testimony before Congress directly contradicted bot James Comey's testimony and Lisa Page's testimony.

This means 1, 2, or perhaps all 3 lied under oath and will be eventually facing perjury charges.

Ohr confirmed the FBI has repeatedly leaked to reporters in order to then use the news story as justification for FISA warrants. The Fake Steele Dossier was but one of many times they lied to the court to get warrants. He confirmed the FBI deliberately withheld from the FISA court that the dossier was judged by them to be fake, and that it was paid for by Trump's political opponent Hillary Clinton, the DNC, and the FBI. Whoever signed the warrant application (Comey?) is looking at jail time.

Testimony made clear Ohr illegally hid from the FBI the fact that his wife had a highly paid job with Fusion GPS working with a rogue Trump-hating British spy (Steele, also paid by Fusion GPS and Clinton) and Putin's favorite oligarch Oleg Deripaska, while also getting paid on the side from Clinton, to rig the 2016 US Presidential Election.
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Given that it was closed testimony, how do you know this? Are you a member of congress? Is Fox News a member of congress?

barfo
 
barfo said:
Given that it was closed testimony, how do you know this? Are you a member of congress? Is Fox News a member of congress?

barfo
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Several Congressmen gave TV interviews after the testimony and provided these tidbits.
 
Looks like Hillary Clinton betrayed America to China for her entire term as Secretary of State.

SOURCES: China Hacked Hillary Clinton’s Private Email Server

9:22 PM 08/27/2018
Richard Pollock | Reporter

  • A Chinese-owned company penetrated former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s private server, according to sources briefed on the matter.
  • The company inserted code that forwarded copies of Clinton’s emails to the Chinese company in real time.
  • The Intelligence Community Inspector General warned of the problem, but the FBI subsequently failed to act, Texas Republican Rep. Louie Gohmert said during a July hearing.

A Chinese-owned company operating in the Washington, D.C., area hacked Hillary Clinton’s private server throughout her term as secretary of state and obtained nearly all her emails, two sources briefed on the matter told The Daily Caller News Foundation.


The Chinese firm obtained Clinton’s emails in real time as she sent and received communications and documents through her personal server, according to the sources, who said the hacking was conducted as part of an intelligence operation.


The Chinese wrote code that was embedded in the server, which was kept in Clinton’s residence in upstate New York. The code generated an instant “courtesy copy” for nearly all of her emails and forwarded them to the Chinese company, according to the sources.


The Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) found that virtually all of Clinton’s emails were sent to a “foreign entity,” Rep. Louie Gohmert, a Texas Republican, said at a July 12 House Committee on the Judiciary hearing. He did not reveal the entity’s identity, but said it was unrelated to Russia. (RELATED: Gohmert: Watchdog Found Clinton Emails Were Sent To ‘Foreign Entity’)


Two officials with the ICIG, investigator Frank Rucker and attorney Janette McMillan, met repeatedly with FBI officials to warn them of the Chinese intrusion, according to a former intelligence officer with expertise in cybersecurity issues, who was briefed on the matter. He spoke anonymously, as he was not authorized to publicly address the Chinese’s role with Clinton’s server.


Among those FBI officials was Peter Strzok, who was then the bureau’s top counterintelligence official. Strzok was fired this month following the discovery he sent anti-Trump texts to his mistress and co-worker, Lisa Page. Strzok didn’t act on the information the ICIG provided him, according to Gohmert.


Gohmert mentioned in the Judiciary Committee hearing that ICIG officials told Strzok and three other top FBI officials that they found an “anomaly” on Clinton’s server.


The former intelligence officer TheDCNF spoke with said the ICIG “discovered the anomaly pretty early in 2015.”


“When [the ICIG] did a very deep dive, they found in the actual metadata — the data which is at the header and footer of all the emails — that a copy, a ‘courtesy copy,’ was being sent to a third party and that third party was a known Chinese public company that was involved in collecting intelligence for China,” the former intelligence officer told TheDCNF.


“The [the ICIG] believe that there was some level of phishing.But once they got into the server something was embedded,” he said. “The Chinese are notorious for embedding little surprises like this.”


The intelligence officer declined to name the Chinese company.


“We do know the name of the company.There are indications there are other ‘cutouts’ that were involved.I would be in a lot of trouble if I gave you the name,” he told TheDCNF.


A government staff official who’s been briefed on the ICIG’s findings told TheDCNF that the Chinese state-owned firm linked to the hacking operates in Washington’s northern Virginia suburbs. The source was not authorized to publicly discuss the matter.


The company that penetrated Clinton’s server was not a technology firm and it served as a “front group” for the Chinese government, the source told TheDCNF.


The Fairfax and Loudoun county governments told TheDCNF that 13 state-owned Chinese companies operate in the area. Of those, three were not technologically oriented.


Fairfax County Economic Development Authority communications manager Seth Livingston told TheDCNF that all of the nine firms operating in his county were there in 2009 when Clinton began as secretary of state.


“Our Asian folks believe that all of the companies have been around and known to us since that time period,” he said in an email.


“This is the most combed over subject in modern American political history,” Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill told TheDCNF. “The FBI spent thousands of hours investigating, and found no evidence of intrusion. That’s a fact.”


“But in an age where facts are alternative and truth isn’t truth, it’s no surprise that an outlet like the Daily Caller would try to distract us from very real and very immediate threats to our democracy brought by the man occupying the White House,” he continued.


Department of State Inspector General Steven A. Linick and then-ICIG I. Charles McCullough III scrutinized Clinton’s server in 2015. McCullough told Congress in July 2015 that her emails contained classified material.


“IC IG was involved in the classification review of certain information drawn from the private email server,” an agency spokeswoman told TheDCNF. She declined to comment further.


The two IGs asked the Department of Justice to investigate whether the classified information was compromised, according to a July 23, 2015, New York Times report based on unnamed senior government officials.


The FBI issued a referral to the Justice Department in July 2015. The bureau warned that classified information may have been disclosed to a foreign power or to one of its agents.


“FBIHQ, Counterespionage Section, is opening a full investigation based on specific articulated facts provided by an 811 referral from the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, dated July 6, 2015 regarding the potential compromise of classified information,” a July 10, 2015, FBI memo stated.


An 811 referral informs the FBI of classified information that was potentially released to a foreign power or agent of a foreign power.


“This investigation is also designated a Sensitive Investigative Matter (SIM) due to a connection to a current public official, political appointee or candidate,” the memo stated.


Then-FBI Deputy Director Mark F. Giuliano sent a follow-up memo on July 21, 2015, to President Barack Obama’s deputy attorney general, Sally Yates, about two conversations he had with her about the criminal referral.


“On 13 July 2015 and 20 July 2015, I verbally advised you of a Section 811(c) referral from the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community received by the FBI on 06 July 2015. The referral addressed the mishandling of classified information on the personal e-mail account and electronic media of a former high-level us Government official,” according to the FBI memo, which was hand delivered to Yates.


Justice Department spokesman Devin M. O’Malley declined to comment on this story.


Former FBI Director James Comey acknowledged in his recent book, “A Higher Loyalty: Truth, Lies, and Leadership,” that the FBI was conducting a criminal investigation into Clinton’s conduct.


London Center for Policy Research’s vice president of operations, retired Col. Anthony Shaffer, told TheDCNF that Clinton’s server was vulnerable to hacking.


“Look, there’s evidence based on the complete lack of security hygiene on the server.Fourteen-year-old hackers from Canada could have probably hacked into her server and left very little trace,” Shaffer said. “Any sophisticated organization is going to be able to essentially get in and then clean up their presence.”


And a former consultant to the U.S. trade representative, Claude Barfield, told TheDCNF: “The Chinese were in the process of really gaining technological competence in 2009 to 2010. This begins to really take off in the early years of the Obama administration. The Obama administration was kind of late and there was this slow reaction about how sophisticated the Chinese were.”

https://dailycaller.com/2018/08/27/china-hacked-clinton-server/
 
MARIS61 said:
Several Congressmen gave TV interviews after the testimony and provided these tidbits.
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So, you are regurgitating partisan BS from 'leakers'. Got it. Will they release the transcript so that we can know what he actually said? I'll bet not!

barfo
 
MARIS61 said:
90% of my posts are straight news without any commentary, originally from the Associated Press and picked up by FOX. They republish articles from all credible news sources around the world. No other news outlet has anywhere near the variety and completeness of world-wide news of all topics, nor the depth of reporting covering our government's agencies and their daily actions.

It's clear from your posts you don't get the news from anywhere very often as you don't know major what's going on in the real world.

It's also clear you don't read other people's posts, but you comment on them just the same.

Rude, to say the least.
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How ironic, I'm talking about the rude part.
 
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