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I wish people would keep this thread on the first page!
 
tlongII said:
We tanking yet?
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Stealth Tanking
 
tlongII said:
Pretty obvious now.
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It was obvious they SHOULD have tanked/been tanking for the last month or two. Instead, they've given 29 starts to Carmelo Anthony and they're lined up for getting the worst lottery pick and they are JUST NOW starting to whip their salary situation into shape.

It's a lost year where we're wasting a healthy year of Dame's prime and we're not going to be in markedly better shape next year and beyond for all the losing...
 
tlongII said:
It is TIME! We are one of the worst teams in the league now. We might as well go for the gusto and get a top 3 pick. It will make Summer League much more interesting!
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One of the problems with tanking is that there’s no guarantee we’d get a top 3 pick.
 
TBpup said:
Blazers just 3 games out of being #14 in the West.....with the highest payroll in the league. That is about as bad of ROI as you can get.
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Once again I need to remind someone that considering our injuries we have more of an average payroll of healthy players who are playing. It's not nearly as bad as you think it is.
 
Lanny said:
Once again I need to remind someone that considering our injuries we have more of an average payroll of healthy players who are playing. It's not nearly as bad as you think it is.
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No reminder needed. Nurk is the biggest piece of salary missing and his is considered a very team friendly dea., Collins on a Rookie contract and Hood on the cheap. Take those dollars out and this team is till WAY underachieving given the remaining dollar amounts left.

But thanks for assuming incorrectly once again. I enjoy the dogged effort. :cheers:
 
Lanny said:
Once again I need to remind someone that considering our injuries we have more of an average payroll of healthy players who are playing. It's not nearly as bad as you think it is.
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With Nurk, Hood, and Collins out, the Blazers still have a payroll of $126 mil healthy, which is still way over the cap, and 13th highest in league... and that is not accounting for other teams injured players.
 
TBpup said:
No reminder needed. Nurk is the biggest piece of salary missing and his is considered a very team friendly dea., Collins on a Rookie contract and Hood on the cheap. Take those dollars out and this team is till WAY underachieving given the remaining dollar amounts left.

But thanks for assuming incorrectly once again. I enjoy the dogged effort. :cheers:
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Under achieving? Yes. Way underachieving given the dollar amounts left? No.
 
Neil O. Shyster said:
With Nurk, Hood, and Collins out, the Blazers still have a payroll of $126 mil healthy, which is still way over the cap, and 13th highest in league... and that is not accounting for other teams injured players.
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2019 NBA Luxury Tax Threshold - $132,627,000.
2019 NBA Salary Cap Max - $109,140,000.
 
tlongII said:
Okay Dame changed my mind. Trading for Ariza was huge too. I truly believe if we make the playoffs with a healthy Nurk and Zach we can beat anybody.
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although a healthy Nurk and Zach is a really big IF. And everyone else would need to stay healthy.
 
OK. Who could we let pass us? New Orleans for sure. Spurs always play better as the season goes on. Sacramento? I don't know, that would take some serious tanking. Have the suns got better as the season goes on?
 
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That short run Dame was on was historic and entertaining as he!! to see. But this team is NOT a Playoff team. Outside that 2+ week, hot lava stretch where the Blazers went 7-3, they are 18-28. That is a .391 winning percentage. Only because the #8 spot is historically bad for the West did that brief stretch keep hope alive for a Playoff spot when in actuallity, it just extended the misery.

This team needs more talent and more athletic ability at almost every position. Yes, injuries have hurt but Nurk (hurt almost every season), Collins (throw in to the PF spot because Aminu was terrible in the Playoffs), nor Hood (great stretch to start the season...but Portland still played .400 ball) coming back is not fixing all of this.

Whiteside can be good at times and maddeningly disappear at others. Ariza has been a breath of fresh air but there is only so much left in those 34 year old legs. Carmello reminds you of someone who used to be good 5-10 years ago but is a shell of his former self. CJ is good as a spot up shooter and almost nothing else....good piece to have, but no where near a Max player. And the rest are too young to make a consistant impact on a nightly basis, even though they show flashes at times.

To have all of this attached to Dame like an anchor is sad to watch. He has fought, clawed and scrapped his way to keep the Blazers even close to being in the Playoff race with the help of some other not very good teams hovering around the sub .500 mark. And as much as I never want to see anyone hurt, especially Dame, perhaps this is for the best.

Treat this injury like how Golden State is treating a hand injury that was supposed to be healed in a couple of months......retreat and regroup for another attack with fresh legs, fresh supplies, and maybe a few new pieces of upgraded equipment.
 
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Even before this thread started in November, I called for not a tank, but a rejuvenation (although I didn't use that word either). I wanted to start giving all the young guys regular minutes. I wanted to trade CJ as soon as possible. I wanted to trade HW and Baze at the deadline. I wanted to focus on revamping the offense and re-teaching passing and defensive fundamentals. I did not advocate signing Melo as that is what a team would do if they wanted to tank. Portland could still use the rest of the season to do some of these things. It would help to find a good defensive assistant coach and a coach who focuses on fundamentals and bring in someone who could look at ways to broaden the offense. Make good use of the rest of this lost season. Unfortunately, as I said then, I don't think any of this will happen, since Olshey does not have the creative and leadership skills to make it happen.
 
I hope we don't play Nurk this season. Let the big fella rest up and come back next season. Perhaps he can work on his 3-point shooting in the meantime. No way we should be jeopardizing his health....or Dame's for that matter.....on a lost season.
 
Jade Falcon said:
I hope we don't play Nurk this season. Let the big fella rest up and come back next season. Perhaps he can work on his 3-point shooting in the meantime. No way we should be jeopardizing his health....or Dame's for that matter.....on a lost season.
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100% agree. Fuck this Season
 
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