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Scalma said:
Define “good.” Look at the players that have fetched firsts. They’re all better than Prince. Numbers suggest Prince is a below average starter, above average bench player. He falls in that Oubre/Harkless category where your buying what he theoretically could become rather than what he actually is.
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Yeah, Mirotic was worth a 1st and a bad contract last year. Much better than Prince.
 
BonesJones said:
Yeah, Mirotic was worth a 1st and a bad contract last year. Much better than Prince.
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But perhaps Prince is a better fit for Portland than Mirotic. Prince can handle, pass, create a little and is a better career 3-pt shooter than Mirotic. It's not really a commentary on who is better...but who might be better for the Blazers.
 
TBpup said:
But perhaps Prince is a better fit for Portland than Mirotic. Prince can handle, pass, create a little and is a better career 3-pt shooter than Mirotic. It's not really a commentary on who is better...but who might be better for the Blazers.
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Mirotic I'd a better shooter now and it's not close. Mirotic would help us more just because of how much better he is.

This is coming from someone who loved Prince coming into his draft.
 
MIROTIC WOULDVE OWNED PORTLAND HE WAS THE PERFECT FIT HOW DARE YOU
 
BonesJones said:
Mirotic I'd a better shooter now and it's not close. Mirotic would help us more just because of how much better he is.

This is coming from someone who loved Prince coming into his draft.
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Perhaps overall, but I said "3-pt shooter" where Prince is a career .372 and Mirotic is a career .357. This season, Prince is .367 and Mirotic is .356. So as for "not close", when it comes to 3-pt shooting, I would submit they are quite close, just that Prince is and has been better. Prince is also the better creator, defender and passer. Mirotic is better at other things but for almost 6x the salary, he should be.
 
The deal I keep coming back to:

POR Gets: Prince, Lin, Carter
ATL Gets: Turner, Swanigan, Calderon, BEST of DET/POR 1sts*
DET Gets: Curry, WORSE of DET/POR 1sts*

*Lottery Protected - If Detroits pick is in the lottery, ATL receives Portlands 1st. If Portlands 1st is in the lottery, ATL receives Portlands 2020 1st.

Detroit will probably be the 7th or 8th seed in the West, so if you're Atlanta, you're talking about getting a top 5 pick (ATL) a pick between 7 and 12 (DAL) , and the 15th or 16th pick (DET).

Detroit would move down 4 to 8 spots (maybe less) to get their starting SG for the rest of the season. If they miss the playoffs, they essentially give up Calderon for Curry.
 
BonesJones said:
We could also take back their early 2nd round pick (which would be at 35 right now). They also have 2nd round picks at 47 and 48. Maybe we could get on of those?

Essentially, Swanigan, Baldwin and a 1st for Prince, #35, & #47.
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Since first round picks are guaranteed and they already have two of them, I actually could see the logic behind not wanting any more this year. But we could send them our pick in 2020 and maybe they throw in one of those seconds this year.

Swanigan, Baldwin/Stauskas/Trent, and a protected first in 2020 for Prince and a 2019 second. I think that’s close.
 
FWIW, Atlanta worked out Swanigan twice in the draft process; once in 2016 before he pulled out, and again in 2017. They drafted Omari Spellman this year, who has a similar build and profile. Looking at their roster, they could be in the market for depth in the front court. Baldwin also dominated Atlanta in summer league, with their GM Travis Schlenk in attendance. Yes it was summer league, but it could’ve still made an impression. Lin will be a free agent and they have nobody else behind Young (btw Baldwin profiles next to him as well)

Just sayin
 
Scalma said:
So I decided I was going to check out the hawks game, get a better look at Prince. I lasted maybe ten minutes. I don’t know how people watch eastern conference basketball without dying of boredom.
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You make it longer through G-League games dont you? Haha
 
Do we make a video (like the Sixers did for Saric and Covington) to Welcome Back CJ after he gets traded?
 
BonesJones said:
Prince seems like the type of guy Olshey would get and then tout as the piece to take us "over the top". Haha.
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Really? Do you really think he'd say that? Did he say that about Harkless? Turner? Aminu? Davis? Lopez?

All of which would provide about the same impact as Prince.

I know you're joking.... But....

He didn't even say that when he drafted Dame.

There are bigger shots to take at the used car salesman. Shots that have merit.
 
dviss1 said:
Really? Do you really think he'd say that? Did he say that about Harkless? Turner? Aminu? Davis? Lopez?

All of which would provide about the same impact as Prince.

I know you're joking.... But....

He didn't even say that when he drafted Dame.

There are bigger shots to take at the used car salesman. Shots that have merit.
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If you know it's a joke, then why are you taking it seriously?
 
Prince is upgrade our small forward position. Don't be surprised Olshey put Aminu and maybe Nik or Curry and 2020 protected 1st for Lin and Prince and 2019 2nd round pick.
 
James lamphear said:
Prince is upgrade our small forward position. Don't be surprised Olshey put Aminu and maybe Nik or Curry and 2020 protected 1st for Lin and Prince and 2019 2nd round pick.
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The problem with that move is we are so thin up front so trading Aminu and not getting back a PF. We'd need another trade mixed in.
 
hoopsjock said:
The problem with that move is we are so thin up front so trading Aminu and not getting back a PF. We'd need another trade mixed in.
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Yes I know to me it would be Harkless then Aminu. But don't be surprise that Harkless is being hold out because they want to show case Layman due to he in contract year too. Due Harkless have a bad knee it easy to justify for him being held out.
 
James lamphear said:
Yes I know to me it would be Harkless then Aminu. But don't be surprise that Harkless is being hold out because they want to show case Layman due to he in contract year too. Due Harkless have a bad knee it easy to justify for him being held out.
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I'd be surprised in this case if we were holding Harkless out for trade reasons. He is one of our bad contracts that would have actually been able to be traded without attaching a pick if he was playing halfway decently.
 
hoopsjock said:
I'd be surprised in this case if we were holding Harkless out for trade reasons. He is one of our bad contracts that would have actually been able to be traded without attaching a pick if he was playing halfway decently.
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Will see we don't know what Olshey thinking but fun to speculate little bit.
 
Bembry looks good as Princes replacement, I’ll take either one, but this does make trading Prince easier for Atlanta.
 
Scalma said:
Bembry looks good as Princes replacement, I’ll take either one, but this does make trading Prince easier for Atlanta.
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That's why I took a lot of time to run a spreadsheet. I wanted to find out who is stealing Prince's job...maybe that's the one we should go for. It's DeAndre' Bembry and Kevin Huerter.

jlprk said:
After starting every game last season, Prince has missed half the games this season. Who made him expendable for trade talk? I calculated who has taken away Prince's SF minutes this season.

37% DeAndre' Bembry
18% Kevin Huerter
18% Taurean Prince
9% Vince Carter
7% Daniel Hamilton
7% Justin Anderson
3% Kent Bazemore
1% Tyler Dorsey
100% total Atlanta SF minutes
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Scalma said:
K.
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1 word.
Shoot!

2 words.
Stop, thief!

3 words.
We wuz robbed!

4 words.
Retirees are fuckin bored!

5 words.
Give this bum a job!

13 words.
He doesn't have the energy to rush through a morning shower before work!

11 words.
Forget it then! I'd rather read his bullshit than smell it!

17 words.
It's 9am! Give this bum a drink and point him toward his bed! Don't go in there!
 
Watched a little of prince tonight and uhh..not great Bob. Doesn’t look very athletic. Maybe it’s just rust.

Boxscore ain’t pretty either. 3-13 shooting.

What I’m sayin is we can get him for biggie
 
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