Teams are boycotting games

[THE HCP]

Here’s the thing..... remember last night it was the Raps and the Celtics that got together and came up with the idea of boycotting FIRST..... so they haven’t even had their chance yet to protest. So you know for a fact they aren’t playing any games tomorrow.

 

[BlazerWookee]

...aaaaaaaaand done.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Well looks like today was my last day of work AGAIN.

Sucks, man.

 

[crandc]

If Lakers and Clippers decide to forego rest of season other teams should join. No one wants asterisk championship.

And in that case the players should agree on actions. Don't just go home to cushy houses and chill with family. I know LeBron is active (hate he's a Laker but love his activism) and so are WNBA players.

 

[kjironman1]

Got to admit i felt this bubble thing would get cancelled due to Virus concerns. I never thought it would get cancelled for Racism.

 

[kjironman1]

I'll be interested in how willing the players will be with going along with massively reduced revenue which will affect their current and future paychecks. This whole 'bubble' thing was done to meet contracts requiring a certain amount of games to be shown for TV. If that goes and the league has to start refunding or crediting, that will affect future paychecks even more.

So what you are saying is Players decided to do this knowing it will effect their future paychecks. I would think that is the point really. They don't care. They are done with the injustice.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

My question is--what is the goal of the current boycott? Obviously I know the desire is racial justice, but is there a benchmark they're seeking to attain? Is it, "Once the police officers responsible for the Blake shooting are arrested, we'll return to the court"? Are they shutting down until there's a nationwide referendum on police training/funding? I don't in the slightest begrudge the players their right to use their platform to send a message, but what's the end-game for the present action?

 

[Natebishop3]

My question is--what is the goal of the current boycott? Obviously I know the desire is racial justice, but is there a benchmark they're seeking to attain? Is it, "Once the police officers responsible for the Blake shooting are arrested, we'll return to the court"? Are they shutting down until there's a nationwide referendum on police training/funding? I don't in the slightest begrudge the players their right to use their platform to send a message, but what's the end-game for the present action?

That has been my question from the beginning. I have never really seen any tangible demand from a lot of the protesting, and this recent boycott is nothing different.

Or is this simply a shot across the bow? A show of power?

 

[speeds]

^ The NBAPA is calling attention to the issue by boycotting but the end goal is to have the league and team ownership groups to take direct action to combat injustice. The meeting that is currently going on is meant to provide tangible plans to that effect.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Without an endgame, an attainable goal set as a president, there will only be confusion, chaos and disgruntled people. Including protesters. they aren't happy, because they are protesting, obviously. So what is the end game to make people happy? Is it the initial effort to get the ball rolling on all front,s or is it to wait until all the balls have stopped rolling?

I mean. We know what the problems are, but where are the steps, lines, goals?

I think there should be timeline goals with steps. Not one end game, but a serious of steps to achieve and as long as those steps are being climbed.....

 

[illmatic99]

Without an endgame, an attainable goal set as a president, there will only be confusion, chaos and disgruntled people. Including protesters. they aren't happy, because they are protesting, obviously. So what is the end game to make people happy? Is it the initial effort to get the ball rolling on all front,s or is it to wait until all the balls have stopped rolling?

I mean. We know what the problems are, but where are the steps, lines, goals?

I think there should be timeline goals with steps. Not one end game, but a serious of steps to achieve and as long as those steps are being climbed.....

No, we don't. You are 100% wrong on that one. Some people know-- but the people in charge, don't.


The VP chief of staff was on CNN this morning calling the NBA protests "silly," without even attempting to care about what it was about.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

^ The NBAPA is calling attention to the issue by boycotting but the end goal is to have the league and team ownership groups to take direct action to combat injustice. The meeting that is currently going on is meant to provide tangible plans to that effect.

So, they don't know exactly what they want the ownership groups to do, only that the owners have the wealth, power and influence to do something, and the players are presently in the process of crystalizing their expectations?

 

[speeds]

So, they don't know exactly what they want the ownership groups to do, only that they have the power and influence to do something, and they're presently in the process of crystalizing their expectations?

This is essentially what LBJ said last night before storming out.

 

[Orion Bailey]

No, we don't. You are 100% wrong on that one. Some people know-- but the people in charge, don't.


The VP chief of staff was on CNN this morning calling the NBA protests "silly," without even attempting to care about what it was about.

"We" was in reference to those complaining about injustices. Not those dismissing them. I was referring to those who are looking for change. They know what the problems are. But they don't have an end game. Not sure why you would think i'm speaking of someone not having an end game when they don't know what the problems are.

 

[noknobs]

Just what I figured. Lebron makes a big scene about how they should end the season to save face then the season continues. What a joke.

If the season continues, this wasn't "brave" on the players part and they certainly didn't "sacrifice" anything. Postponing a game isn't sacrifice. It's a way to say look at me, look at what I'm doing, I'm a good person. Nothing more. It's not going to change any important social issues the country has.

Perhaps I'm too cynical but this all just feels like window dressing for some of the players (not all I'm sure).

 

[Natebishop3]

What's interesting to me is that the protests and actions of the players have already achieved quite a bit. People freak the fuck out when cops shoot someone now. In the past people would just shrug their shoulders but now we see immediate protests. If people think that police violence is going to stop over night, they're gonna have a bad time. This is going to take a while. I guess by continuing this kind of thing, they're showing that they're not just gonna go away. They're not just gonna get over it.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Hope the Lakers boycott. Then counts as us as beating them!

 

[speeds]

Look at this group. Imagine what they could do with their 'powers' combined:

Tony Ressler (Hawks) $2.6BN
Wyc Grousbeck (Celtics) $0.5BN
Joe Tsai (Nets) $12.7BN
Michael Jordan (Hornets) $2.1BN
Jerry Reinsdorf (Bulls) $1.5BN
Dan Gilbert (Cavs) $59.7BN
Mark Cuban (Mavs) $4.3BN
Ann Kroenke (Nuggets) $7BN
Tom Gores (Pistons) $4.1BN
Joe Lacob & Peter Gruber (Warriors) $3.8BN
Tillman Fertitta (Rockets) $4.4BN
Herbert Simon (Pacers) $3.2BN
Steve Ballmer (Clippers) $71.4BN
Jeanie, Jim, and Johnny Buss (Lakers) $0.6BN
Robert Pera (Grizzlies) $11BN
Micky Arison (Heat) $7.9BN
Marc Lasry & Wesley Edens (Bucks) $6.4BN
Glen Taylor (Wolves) $1.9BN
Gayle Benson (Pels) $3.3BN
Jimmy Dolan (Knicks) $2BN
Clay Bennett (Thunder) $0.4BN
Dan DeVos (Magic) $2BN
Josh Harris (Sixers) $4.9BN
Robert Sarver (Suns) $0.4BN
Jody Allen (Blazers) $20.3BN
Vivek Ranadive (Kings) $0.8BN
Peter Holt (Spurs) $0.2BN
Larry Tanenbaum (Raps) $1.5BN
Gail Miller (Jazz) $1.7BN
Ted Leonsis (Wizards) $1.1BN

 

[speeds]

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Wow! So many bots just sealed their deal.

 

[speeds]

Not today, though.

 

[noknobs]

I guess by continuing this kind of thing, they're showing that they're not just gonna go away. They're not just gonna get over it.

But simply postponing a game and restarting and carrying out the rest of the season sends the message it is just going to go away.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Hope the Lakers boycott. Then counts as us as beating them!

I made a joke about this initially and was judged pretty harshly by it. Shows alot about ME...I was told.....

What a crock of Sh..

 

[speeds]

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I'm actually kind of disappointed they decided to resume. Not because I don't want the games - I do - but because canceling the season really would be taking a stand. I hope they're doing this because they've extracted some serious commitments from the money men (and woman).

I'm a fan of LeBron James in all respects OUTSIDE of the current series, but this kind of makes him "storming out" look like pure theater.

 

[illmatic99]

I'm actually kind of disappointed they decided to resume. Not because I don't want the games - I do - but because canceling the season really would be taking a stand. I hope they're doing this because they've extracted some serious commitments from the money men (and woman).

Waiting to see all that falls out of this-- there has to be something. Getting the owners all in one room today was a first step.

But this was a fine line the players were walking. They have no platform if the bubble is burst because they go home. And the implications for the CBA next season would be massive.

 

[julius]

I'm actually kind of disappointed they decided to resume. Not because I don't want the games - I do - but because canceling the season really would be taking a stand. I hope they're doing this because they've extracted some serious commitments from the money men (and woman).

I'm a fan of LeBron James in all respects OUTSIDE of the current series, but this kind of makes him "storming out" look like pure theater.

I agree, but I also think it might have been a combo of making a statement and also needing a mental health day. Not discounting or downplaying their motivations, but it has to be exhausting to deal with this (not killings/shootings, but prejudicial glances, looks, etc) every day of their lives.

 

[speeds]

 

[tlongII]

So will Dame be healthy by Friday?