Ted Cruz, so whaddya think?

[MickZagger]

I think he's a shit stain.

He's a coward and a two face.

Seems like someones Marazul would want in office.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I think Christie isn't a factor at all.

It looks to me like 3 candidates will get serious consideration. Bush, Walker, and Paul.

What's weird is Paul Walker died from hitting a bush and tree.

 

[speeds]

I read Paul's Wiki just now and was surprised to see, as a libertarian, he's against legalization, against any abortion, and against gay marriage. Are these concessions to his party?

 

[Denny Crane]

I read Paul's Wiki just now and was surprised to see, as a libertarian, he's against legalization, against any abortion, and against gay marriage. Are these concessions to his party?

He's not a Libertarian like his father is. He's a republican with libertarian leanings. Note my capitalization.

That said, he's libertarian enough to keep the government out of abortion, gay marriage (either way).

Legalization?

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_..._paul_cory_booker_and_kirsten_gillibrand.html

Immigration?

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...migration-the-11-million-are-never-going-home

 

[MarAzul]

I read Paul's Wiki just now and was surprised to see, as a libertarian, he's against legalization, against any abortion, and against gay marriage. Are these concessions to his party?

As I understand it, his views on abortion and gay marriage are much like mine. Against abortion but would not make it illegal or put people in jail for having one. I think the Federal government has no business in marriage and Paul has said exactly that in his news letter. It will be interesting to see if he holds to these principles though the campaign. I would like to see the Republican candidate refuse to discuss abortion this go around.

 

[speeds]

Marz, why are Bush and Christie nearly like Democrats?

 

[MarAzul]

The short answer is (I need to get back to work) they both lack conviction in the Constitution. Bush is for common Core, common standards in schools. The Constitution does not carve out a nitch
for the Federal government in education and rightly so. Given the chance I would place my money on one of 50 state coming up with a better education system that a single highly political Federal government.

Bush was also in favor of his brothers prescription drug plan. I find it a ridiculous thing, forcing people to buy some damn worthless insurance. My wife is a good case, She is force to buy this stuff, the prescription drug insurance. It is available at not too high of cost by it's self from Humana but she also needs Medicare supplement such as a Medicare Advantage plan. Well the law is written such that you can not buy the stand alone prescription plan and an Advantage plan. You must buy both in one package. This then results in an inferior Healthcare plan to the one available without the prescription drug coverage, Which I have. Her plan covers less than mine and cost way more, seven times more. This is a prime example of the government making you stand while the insurance industry uses maybe abuses a person. Then when it come to the facts of the matter her prescriptions cost the same at Wall Mart or Fred Meyer with or without the insurance.
Mine also but I am not force to buy the damn drug plan because of my VA coverage. Thank god they don't force me to buy everything from the VA, my prescription are 2.5 times more from the VA pharmacy as Freddie's. I have not heard a word about from Bush how he would fix any of this Healthcare mess, nor from the Democrats. That really puts them in the same box in my mind.

Christie has no problem controlling your guns or more taxes here and there. He has done nothing like Walker in his state just more taxes and a little less spending.
I found it rather sickening to watch him kissing Obama's ass after Sandy rolled through his neighborhood, and it did nothing good. I know some people that live on the Jersey shore, lost their house and they really have turned against him. Non flattering words they use like phony sob.... but I shouldn't repeat because I have no first hand knowledge, but I do detect, something is not right.

 

[barfo]

Given the chance I would place my money on one of 50 state coming up with a better education system that a single highly political Federal government.

That sounds about right to me. One state better, 49 states worse. They'd be poorly educated, but at least they'd have their "freedom".

barfo

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Bush is for common Core, common standards in schools. The Constitution does not carve out a nitch
for the Federal government in education and rightly so. Given the chance I would place my money on one of 50 state coming up with a better education system that a single highly political Federal government.

Common Core standards were developed by governors and state education officials and voluntarily adopted by states, and the curriculum is set by state and local school officials.

 

[MarAzul]

Common Core standards were developed by governors and state education officials and voluntarily adopted by states, and the curriculum is set by state and local school officials.

Sound great does it? In any case, a Candidate for President should move on to matters appropriately the turf of the President.
However, I personal don't agree that all students show be held to the same universal standard even within one state. But that would be a State choice and should have nothing to do with a Presidential candidates view. If common Core is about minimum standards then it is uninteresting. I personally think a persons talents and individual characteristics should be maximized to exploit advantages, not muted into a standard. This should begin in High School. Screw the well rounding, maximize the individuals talent, we will all be better for it. The best project teams come by building the team from complementary talents to fill out the whole needed to create the team. All members need not even be competent in the strength of anyone member.
But I admit, I am very biased on this subject having studied the psychology for years and taught the team building classes world wide.

 

[Denny Crane]

That sounds about right to me. One state better, 49 states worse. They'd be poorly educated, but at least they'd have their "freedom".

barfo

As opposed to D.C. better, 50 states worse.

Central planning by unelected officials is da bomb!

 

[barfo]

So this is kind of interesting:

There's a lot here, but one thing that stands out is the difference between what the Paul's say, and how they vote. It's huge compared to all the other politicians. They vote like Ted Cruz but talk like G.H.W. Bush.

barfo

 

[3RA1N1AC]

The GOP is all about income equality now guys, everything is gonna be just fine

 

[Denny Crane]

So this is kind of interesting:



There's a lot here, but one thing that stands out is the difference between what the Paul's say, and how they vote. It's huge compared to all the other politicians. They vote like Ted Cruz but talk like G.H.W. Bush.

barfo

If you make up what "conservative" means, you can make the chart read any way you like.

It also matters WHAT there is to vote on.

That's the only lesson from your graph. 538 should know better.

 

[MarAzul]

the difference between what Walker says an how it is scored is amazing.

The Democrats damn near freaked out over what Walker said and did. How the hell did that get scored down the middle? You would think it would score slightly right of Attila's record.
Something missing here. Need a dem for comparison. Perhaps Obama's record.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Jon Huntsman is a smart, smart dude. Heard him speak at the Naval War College.

 

[barfo]

It also matters WHAT there is to vote on.

That's the only lesson from your graph. 538 should know better.

Yeah, it does indeed matter what there is to vote on. That's what makes the Paul's such phonies. They natter on about stuff that they know they'll never have to vote on, but when it comes time to actually vote - when it counts - they are more rightwing than even Ted Cruz.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

Or they voted no on most everything. Most everything was whatever Pelosi and Reid allowed to be voted on. They'd have voted no on republican legislation, too.

But go ahead and delude yourself.

 

[barfo]

Or they voted no on most everything. Most everything was whatever Pelosi and Reid allowed to be voted on. They'd have voted no on republican legislation, too.

Yeah, that theory works real well until you realize there are other republicans on that chart, even crazy-ass ones like Ms. Bachmann, and they don't hold a candle to Ron and Rand.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

Yeah, that theory works real well until you realize there are other republicans on that chart, even crazy-ass ones like Ms. Bachmann, and they don't hold a candle to Ron and Rand.

barfo

They vote FOR republican spending, and against Pelosi/Reid trash. Not at all surprising their no votes, too.

For different reasons.

 

[barfo]

They vote FOR republican spending, and against Pelosi/Reid trash. Not at all surprising their no votes, too.

For different reasons.

And that theory works well until you realize that anything that Michelle Bachmann votes FOR is unlikely to be something liberal.

The scale here isn't just 'for' on the left side and 'against' on the right side.

It doesn't mean they voted no more times. It means that in very nearly every vote, they found the most right-wing position, be it for or against - even more so than Mr. Cruz and Ms. Bachmann.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

What has Bachmann voted for? ObamaCare?

 

[maxiep]

One of the smartest people I have ever known. We never beat his team.

 

[barfo]

One of the smartest people I have ever known. We never beat his team.

You never beat Ted Cruz's team in what?

barfo

 

[maxiep]

Harvard Law Review good enough?

http://harvardlawreview.org/2015/03/on-the-meaning-of-natural-born-citizen/

While some constitutional issues are truly difficult, with framing-era sources either nonexistent or contradictory, here, the relevant materials clearly indicate that a “natural born Citizen” means a citizen from birth with no need to go through naturalization proceedings. The Supreme Court has long recognized that two particularly useful sources in understanding constitutional terms are British common law3×3. See Smith v. Alabama, 124 U.S. 465, 478 (1888). and enactments of the First Congress.4×4. See Wisconsin v. Pelican Ins. Co., 127 U.S. 265, 297 (1888).Both confirm that the original meaning of the phrase “natural born Citizen” includes persons born abroad who are citizens from birth based on the citizenship of a parent.

Absolutely not. Both President Obama and Senator Cruz were on the Harvard Law Review.

 

[maxiep]

I think Christie isn't a factor at all.

It looks to me like 3 candidates will get serious consideration. Bush, Walker, and Paul.

I think the ticket will end up being Walker/Rubio.

 

[jlprk]

You never beat Ted Cruz's team in what?

In fantasy basketball, I have Bob Dole at shooting guard.

 

[BrianFromWA]

In fantasy basketball, I have Bob Dole at shooting guard.

Force him to dribble to his right and he's done.

 

[Haakzilla]

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I think the ticket will end up being Walker/Rubio.

Its bush for sure, walker will do well in the early primaries and then get crushed by slow inevitability. Its a money game, and the money is more comfortable with Bush

Look for a Bush/ Mia Love ticket. Could be strong.

BUSH/LOVE