Ten reasons why we don't want to trade for DeMarcus Cousins

[dviss1]

In the real world you would be correct, but in the NBA it is proven to be effective.

Nope. There was an actual foul. He was hit in the face (marginally). She didn't put a whistle on it. Then realized he was fouled. It was about 7 seconds to late.

 

[dviss1]

This is his 7th season in the league. It's not like these problems just started showing up after years of losing. He's been a head case from day 1. Back then the excuse was he's young and immature. He'll grow out of it. Well, seven years later, same old shit. Already fined $25K this season for his latest temper tantrum. Couldn't even make it through three games without a meltdown.

Yeah, SAC is a fucked up organization, but at some point, when your team underachieves year after year, under different owners, different GMs, different coaches and differenct teammates, and you're the best player on the team, the franchise cornerstone, you need to look in the mirror and get your shit together. He constantly butts heads with his coaches, the refs, his GMs and throws his teammates under the bus.

Would a change of scenery do him good? Probably, if he goes to the right situation, with the right leader. He'd be great in CLE, because LeBron wouldn't put up with his shit. Same in SAS with Pop. Could Lillard rein him in? Hard to say, but I would not blow up the entire team to get a chronic malcontent. Cousins is clearly not a leader. The question is, can he be a good follower? It's yet to be seen.

BNM

I agree with you every time you post but this is where we'll part ways.

Damian Lillard is every bit as good a leader as LeBron and winning cures everything.

 

[Ed O]

I agree with you every time you post but this is where we'll part ways.

Damian Lillard is every bit as good a leader as LeBron and winning cures everything.

I don't know about Dame's leadership, but I tend to agree with "winning cures everything". With Cousins, though? I'm not sure. I look at his track record and he misses a lot of games. He doesn't get along with coaches or, as far as I can tell, many teammates.

It's POSSIBLE that if he goes to a good team then he might calm down... or he might keep doing the same stuff when things don't quite go his way. He's 26 years old and very well might be what he is.

In terms of what he is: he's good, but he's a shoot-first guy who has been drifting to the perimeter and doesn't block shots. I don't know.

I guess it all comes down to the acquisition price.

 

[dviss1]

I don't know about Dame's leadership, but I tend to agree with "winning cures everything". With Cousins, though? I'm not sure. I look at his track record and he misses a lot of games. He doesn't get along with coaches or, as far as I can tell, many teammates.

It's POSSIBLE that if he goes to a good team then he might calm down... or he might keep doing the same stuff when things don't quite go his way. He's 26 years old and very well might be what he is.

In terms of what he is: he's good, but he's a shoot-first guy who has been drifting to the perimeter and doesn't block shots. I don't know.

I guess it all comes down to the acquisition price.

So now 26 year old kids (kids to me) are irredeemable? I disagree.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Coleangelo spoke highly of his Team USA time. Anyone hear anything good or bad from the other players?

 

[handiman]

I'm often surprised at how much boogie sells himself for some rebounds. There are times when you'd think he's some scrub fighting for minutes with the way he gets after it.

Like Ron Ron and Angry Rus, you just can't coach crazy...pun intended.

This is his 7th season in the league. It's not like these problems just started showing up after years of losing. He's been a head case from day 1. Back then the excuse was he's young and immature. He'll grow out of it. Well, seven years later, same old shit.

It's even worse than that. His issues go back to at least college, and losing definitely wasn't to blame then.

 

[dviss1]

Like Ron Ron and Angry Rus, you just can't coach crazy...pun intended.



It's even worse than that. His issues go back to at least college, and losing definitely wasn't to blame then.

That Kentucky team was s'posed to win it all. They underachieved.

 

[selloutking]

he came up clutch last night with a game winning lay up and 1 opportunity, but for some reason, the ref called the foul on him and it was his 6th. that shit was messed up.

 

[blue9]

TEN REASONS WHY WE WANT TO TRADE FOR DMC:

 

[Wizard Mentor]

4 reasons we want to trade for DMC:
game 1
game 2
game 3
game 4.

 

[jlprk]

You have a valid point, after watching our game against the Clippers. I don't enjoy watching players act like that though. I want to see them man up, and earn their millions by playing hard, and being accountable if they foul someone. Not get touched, and then flop.



If they're on our team, or not....

Where is Dougnsalem? A search shows that he was posting several times per day, right up to his last post above, 1 month ago today. I hope he's not in jail.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Where is Dougnsalem? A search shows that he was posting several times per day, right up to his last post above, 1 month ago today. I hope he's not in jail.

Douginjailem?

BNM

 

[crandc]

I have no problem with a guy being emotional and passionate. My problem with Cousins is that I have seen him a couple times when he just seems to quit midgame.

Exactly what I was going to say. Emotion is fine, especially since the team leader, Dame, is cool and calm. But the raging at coaches and quitting - do we want that? I'm not saying no, I'm just saying proceed with caution. High risk needs to be high reward.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Where is Dougnsalem? A search shows that he was posting several times per day, right up to his last post above, 1 month ago today. I hope he's not in jail.

Tag him so the next time he logs in he sees that you were asking about him.

@Dougnsalem

 

[BBert]

Where is Dougnsalem? A search shows that he was posting several times per day, right up to his last post above, 1 month ago today. I hope he's not in jail.

The rebar and concrete in the overpass could be blocking his nearest WiFi signal.

 

[BBert]

Seriously, hope he's OK.

Joke's probably on us and he's taking his annual winter migration to the Cayman's

 

[Rastapopoulos]

We don't need THIS crying fuck either:

I take it the point is that you can be a good player and still appear in pictures looking like a whiner (or even BE a whiner).
But another similarity: we have about as much chance of landing Cousins as we do of landing LeBron.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

His problems are fantastic because they're an opportunity. You think we could get Anthony Davis? No Freaking Way. Do you think we could get Cousins? Maybe, just maybe.

No. Here's what IS true:
Is Davis likely to be traded (especially given that they've got him under contract for a while)? Absolutely not.
Is DMC likely to be traded? Possibly. (I actually think a lot less likely than most of this board seems to. The owner loves him, he hasn't dissed Sacramento (which in itself is amazing), and he's basically their only decent player.)

But the likelihood of being traded is VERY different from the likelihood of US getting him.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

i dont give a fuck about telling refs what they can go do to themselevs. they deserve it. the only issue i have is as a blazers you get a target on your back. i think he would foul out in 12 minutes every game and probably average .5 techs a game like the great rasheed wallace, simply for speaking his mind.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

No. Here's what IS true:
Is Davis likely to be traded (especially given that they've got him under contract for a while)? Absolutely not.
Is DMC likely to be traded? Possibly. (I actually think a lot less likely than most of this board seems to. The owner loves him, he hasn't dissed Sacramento (which in itself is amazing), and he's basically their only decent player.)

But the likelihood of being traded is VERY different from the likelihood of US getting him.

Where did you get "likely" from anything in the post to which you were replying? I believe he said "maybe". Nothing you stated contradicts that.

 

[BlazerWookee]

I take it the point is that you can be a good player and still appear in pictures looking like a whiner (or even BE a whiner).
But another similarity: we have about as much chance of landing Cousins as we do of landing LeBron.

I'd still root for Portland if we had Cousins, but I'd gripe a lot.

If we get Lebron, I'm actively rooting against the Blazers until he's gone.

 

[Blazers Roy]

i dont give a fuck about telling refs what they can go do to themselevs. they deserve it. the only issue i have is as a blazers you get a target on your back. i think he would foul out in 12 minutes every game and probably average .5 techs a game like the great rasheed wallace, simply for speaking his mind.

I don't think refs like Sacramento either lol, they literally stole a championship from them.

 

[blue9]

But another similarity: we have about as much chance of landing Cousins as we do of landing LeBron.

Absolutely false. We have ZERO chance at getting LBJ, but if we really wanted DMC we could easily get him by offering CJ. If by some bizarro-world twist CJ didn't land us DMC, we could up the ante by offering Dame. Now, that said, I don't believe we would ever offer Dame, and highly doubt we would offer CJ - but the point remains that we could easily land DMC, and therefore there is no similarity between LBJ and DMC on that point.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Where did you get "likely" from anything in the post to which you were replying? I believe he said "maybe". Nothing you stated contradicts that.

These boards crack me up sometimes.

Rasta says NO, and then promptly repeats what I said.
/headshake

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Absolutely false. We have ZERO chance at getting LBJ, but if we really wanted DMC we could easily get him by offering CJ. If by some bizarro-world twist CJ didn't land us DMC, we could up the ante by offering Dame. Now, that said, I don't believe we would ever offer Dame, and highly doubt we would offer CJ - but the point remains that we could easily land DMC, and therefore there is no similarity between LBJ and DMC on that point.

Fair point, although if LeBron snapped his achilles we could probably get him for Lillard.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Where did you get "likely" from anything in the post to which you were replying? I believe he said "maybe". Nothing you stated contradicts that.

These boards crack me up sometimes.

Rasta says NO, and then promptly repeats what I said.
/headshake

Okay, these two things are contradictory. If what I said involves "likely" and what WM said doesn't, then I didn't repeat what he said.

Here's what I meant:
Yes it's POSSIBLE that DMC will be traded.
No it's not possible that it will be to us.

Clearer?

If you like we can get into the distinction between logically possible, metaphysically possible and physically possible, and how to explain each using Stalnaker's possible world semantics (expanding on an idea first found in Leibniz and satirized by Voltaire in Candide. Personally I'm quite sympathetic to David Lewis's extreme modal realism, despite its fantastical implications, and don't think Saul Kripke's criticisms against it really find the mark.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Okay, these two things are contradictory. If what I said involves "likely" and what WM said doesn't, then I didn't repeat what he said.

Here's what I meant:
Yes it's POSSIBLE that DMC will be traded.
No it's not possible that it will be to us.

Clearer?

If you like we can get into the distinction between logically possible, metaphysically possible and physically possible, and how to explain each using Stalnaker's possible world semantics (expanding on an idea first found in Leibniz and satirized by Voltaire in Candide. Personally I'm quite sympathetic to David Lewis's extreme modal realism, despite its fantastical implications, and don't think Saul Kripke's criticisms against it really find the mark.

Clear. Thanks for the clarification.

OK, now WHY? What's this great offer others will throw at the Kings?

 

[Blazers Roy]

 

[stampedehero]

Trade for him. We Need inside rebounding and jail blazer drama 0nce again.

 

[stampedehero]

>He certainly cannot qualify as a custodian.