Tesla's Model III goes 200 miles per charge and costs $35,000

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how reliable are Teslas though? I saw a report that 2/3 of Tesla's drivetrains fail by 60k miles.
http://www.breitbart.com/california...tesla-model-s-drivetrains-replaced-60k-miles/


http://www.consumerreports.org/cars/tesla-reliability-doesnt-match-its-high-performance

Tesla Motors’ all-electric Model S sedan got high marks in Consumer Reports’ 50-plus tests involving driving dynamics and livability, and it consumed energy at the electric equivalent of 84 miles per gallon (87 MPGe in the P85D trim). It’s the best-performing car we’ve ever tested.

But its predicted reliability is another matter.

As part of our Annual Auto Reliability Survey, we received about 1,400 survey responses from Model S owners who chronicled an array of detailed and complicated maladies. From that data we forecast that owning that Tesla is likely to involve a worse-than-average overall problem rate. That’s a step down from last year’s “average” prediction for the Model S. It also means the Model S does not receive Consumer Reports’ recommended designation. (To be recommended, a vehicle has to meet stringent testing, reliability, and safety standards, including having average or better predicted reliability.)

The main problem areas involved the drivetrain, power equipment, charging equipment, giant iPad-like center console, and body and sunroof squeaks, rattles, and leaks.

Specific areas that scored worse on the 2015 model, compared with the 2014 model in last year’s survey, were the climate control, steering, and suspension systems. Complaints about the drive system have also increased as the cars have aged—specifically for the 2013 model, which was the car’s first full model year. (See more details on the Tesla Model S model page.)

But those problems mostly still fall under Tesla’s four-year/50,000-mile bumper-to-bumper warranty (and eight-year/unlimited mileage battery and drivetrain warranty), so they are generally being corrected at no cost to owners.
 
the new honda civic is dope and is half the price. $35,000 is entry level luxury car.
The new civic is light years better than the last one for sure.

The only thing I'd change about what I see in the pic in this thread is the grille. Looks like a Dodge.
 
The new civic is light years better than the last one for sure.

The only thing I'd change about what I see in the pic in this thread is the grille. Looks like a Dodge.

Saw a Civic Si on the road the other day, looks really badass.
 
But this tesla looks not too bad, not really sure you can have it as your only car though, you'd have to have a backup gas powered car. I could probably get away but I live in an apartment with no charger so that's no good for me. I drive a shit ton.

Some of my buddies got some cheap chevy elecric car for a 100 a month lease or something just to use solely for commuting.
http://www.chevrolet.com/spark-ev-electric-vehicle.html
 
The BMW i3 is pretty cool too but its so fucking bare bones inside.
 
I wonder what the State will do for Road Tax money when everyone has one of these beauties?

What will the state do for road tax money when everyone gets flying cars? :MARIS61:
 
Is that what the inside of a Tesla looks like? Pretty roomy, but less luxurious than I imagined.

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Yes but will you be looking to stop for good food or a charging station. Might take awhile before the good food places can also charge your car and not just one either.
You could be right in the short term. But even the winery I work at now has a tesla charging station. They aren't expensive and if they bring in customers, it will become ubiquitous shortly. If the cars come out in 2017, my guess is within 3 years they will be at most eatery along highway routes.
 
But this tesla looks not too bad, not really sure you can have it as your only car though, you'd have to have a backup gas powered car. I could probably get away but I live in an apartment with no charger so that's no good for me. I drive a shit ton.

Some of my buddies got some cheap chevy elecric car for a 100 a month lease or something just to use solely for commuting.
http://www.chevrolet.com/spark-ev-electric-vehicle.html
Buy this and a 92-97 lexus LS400 with 175000 miles on it and you're good. Whatever year Lexus you can find that some old guy took care of. They run forever.
 
Buy this and a 92-97 lexus LS400 with 175000 miles on it and you're good. Whatever year Lexus you can find that some old guy took care of. They run forever.

I guess we really need to see how long these Teslas really last though, because what's the point of not buying gas if the car doesn't even last 100,000 miles.
 
I wonder what the State will do for Road Tax money when everyone has one of these beauties?
There could be a taxation hiccup at some point as gas usage decreases, but they will just have to adjust the revenue stream. It will mean better air quality, fewer health issues, less reliance on foreign oil and hence less need need to fuck with middle eastern politics. All worth trying to figure out if we should have an additional tax at time of purchase or dmv milage check taxation. Many ways around the tax issue, but the big point is that innovation, business and research are bringing us an answer to some of the bigger problems we face moving forward.
 
I guess we really need to see how long these Teslas really last though, because what's the point of not buying gas if the car doesn't even last 100,000 miles.
Everyone thought the Prius would be a disaster and they seem to last forever as well. Hopefully the Teslas will do well.

Time will tell.
 
I'm still driving my 2005 Prius. It's only needed brakes, tires, and routine maintenance (oil change, etc.).

I get about 43 MPG.
 
Everyone thought the Prius would be a disaster and they seem to last forever as well. Hopefully the Teslas will do well.

Time will tell.
I have a 2013 Prius II and it's an awesome investment...don't care for the low end Prius much, but mine cost about 10 grand more than those..roomy, quality ride. It's a hybrid so you can switch to the gas motor and it gets 38mpg without the electric mode..drove to Corvalis and back and it got 69mpg on eco mode. I'm sold on it...when I replace my truck I'm definitely getting a hybrid truck as well. In town it will go a long ways on just the electric motor alone.
 
This is mine although I know most of you guys hate these, they are great cars
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Looks like a jaguar in a way
 
I have a 2013 Prius II and it's an awesome investment...don't care for the low end Prius much, but mine cost about 10 grand more than those..roomy, quality ride. It's a hybrid so you can switch to the gas motor and it gets 38mpg without the electric mode..drove to Corvalis and back and it got 69mpg on eco mode. I'm sold on it...when I replace my truck I'm definitely getting a hybrid truck as well. In town it will go a long ways on just the electric motor alone.
I had one at work last week but it was older. I was surprised when it totaled because it wasn't that bad but it had a ton of miles on it. I still thought about trying to buy it and fix it but the interior was filthy.

The service writer at work told me the lady was sad because it kept on plugging along even though she didn't take care of it. Judging by the interior I believe her.
 
I had one at work last week but it was older. I was surprised when it totaled because it wasn't that bad but it had a ton of miles on it. I still thought about trying to buy it and fix it but the interior was filthy.

The service writer at work told me the lady was sad because it kept on plugging along even though she didn't take care of it. Judging by the interior I believe her.
It was my first new car, I got the third generation system which was a lot better than the older ones or the low end one. I drove a lot of them, used and different new models.
 
Well dviss, you were being dviss again. I did not say nor intend to imply there was something bad about electric vehicles.
They do sort of screw up the road financing though, but it can be changed, that was what prompted my question.
A legitimate answer would be that as electric cars become more common, Oregon will institute a mileage tax on to of the gas tax, claiming that it is an environmental initiative, since drivers of gasoline-powered cars will be taxed twice, and will therefore have further incentive to migrate to electric vehicles.
 
A legitimate answer would be that as electric cars become more common, Oregon will institute a mileage tax on to of the gas tax, claiming that it is an environmental initiative, since drivers of gasoline-powered cars will be taxed twice, and will therefore have further incentive to migrate to electric vehicles.
To me it's not that different from choosing to drive a scooter or small street bike..they get incredible mileage and don't line the oil companies pockets that much. What they'll probably do is have toll booth systems to collect revenue for roads..I'd rather they took it from sales tax because folks drive more when they can afford to drive...that means consuming more
 
To me it's not that different from choosing to drive a scooter or small street bike..they get incredible mileage and don't line the oil companies pockets that much. What they'll probably do is have toll booth systems to collect revenue for roads..I'd rather they took it from sales tax because folks drive more when they can afford to drive...that means consuming more

I'd love it if they installed a toll on the I-5 Columbia Crossing.
 
Is marzy complaining about doing away with taxes? You damn tax and spend liberals are ruining this country.
 
http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/06/states-turn-against-electric-cars-as-gas-tax-revenues-fall/

States are quickly learning that promoting electric cars is coming with a high price tag. Colorado has joined a growing number of states that are imposing fees on electric and alternative vehicles to recover “lost” gas tax revenues.

As of this year, Coloradans driving electric, alternative fuel and high-efficiency vehicles will pay a $50 registration fee to capture more revenue from vehicles that use less traditional gasoline. This is part of a growing trend by which states are looking to recoup declining gas tax revenues as vehicles become more fuel efficient and drivers buy more electric vehicles.

Colorado is one of at least five states that have special fees on hybrid and electric vehicles — Colorado, Nebraska, North Carolina, Virginia and Washington. Earlier this year, Oregon lawmakers were discussing a bill that would impose a fee on electric cars and those getting 55 miles per gallon or better. The bill is still sitting in the state legislature.
 

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