Thanks Trump

[dviss1]

Say what?!?! What era have you been living in? The issue with "Wall Mart" isn't what puts people on food stamps. Those jobs could be given to teenagers or those just wanting to make extra cash. Just like the fast food industry, they are designed for those not needing a "living wage" but students or teenagers.

And frankly, I'll listen to people who you can't argue with, that don't parrot talking points:

Report: Walmart Workers Cost Taxpayers $6.2 Billion In Public Assistance

Walmart’s low-wage workers cost U.S. taxpayers an estimated $6.2 billion in public assistance including food stamps, Medicaid and subsidized housing, according to a report published to coincide with Tax Day, April 15.

Americans for Tax Fairness, a coalition of 400national and state-level progressive groups, made this estimate using data from a 2013 study by Democratic Staff of the U.S. Committee on Education and the Workforce.

“The study estimated the cost to Wisconsin’s taxpayers of Walmart’s low wages and benefits, which often force workers to rely on various public assistance programs,” reads the report, available in full here.

“It found that a single Walmart Supercenter cost taxpayers between $904,542 and $1.75 million per year, or between $3,015 and $5,815 on average for each of 300 workers.”

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcom...llion-in-public-assistance/&refURL=&referrer=

 

[dviss1]

A federal force of min. wage is ludicrous. This should be a state issue. $15 per hour in Alabama is a living wage. $15 per hour in Manhattan is extreme poverty. Also, if the cost of living in another state is lower, it can compete with other states for population growth. When you have some "CENTRAL MARXIST GOVERNMENT" deciding the good of all people, then everything in the U.S. should be the same. You ready for that?

Ohhhh I see. So your advocating for a higher minimum wage in states like NY & CA.

LOL.

 

[magnifier661]

And frankly, I'll listen to people who you can't argue with, that don't parrot talking points:

Report: Walmart Workers Cost Taxpayers $6.2 Billion In Public Assistance

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcom...llion-in-public-assistance/&refURL=&referrer=

Yes, lets blame a corporation for poverty. LOL

 

[magnifier661]

Ohhhh I see. So your advocating for a higher minimum wage in states like NY & CA.

LOL.

No, I advocated it being a state issue. If the state of California decides to increase min. wage, then it is what it is. If I don't like it, then I can move our corporation in another State that helps my bottom line. That becomes the choice of the company, not the government.

 

[dviss1]

Yes, lets blame a corporation for poverty. LOL

Um... yeah. You don't blame them for anything. You grandstand about government being the problem when the biggest problem is corporations controlling government. But you don't want to tackle that issue.

 

[magnifier661]

I'm yeah. You don't blame them for anything. You grandstand about government being the problem when the biggest problem is corporations controlling government. But you don't want to tackle that issue.

They aren't as evil as you think. Well, most of them aren't. They are just people that want to make the most money for their shareholders. The politicians that allow lobbyist and special interest in are to blame. A public servant should look up the definition of that term before taking office.

 

[dviss1]

They aren't as evil as you think. Well, most of them aren't. They are just people that want to make the most money for their shareholders. The politicians that allow lobbyist and special interest in are to blame. A public servant should look up the definition of that term before taking office.

But that's all they want to do. Damn the people or the environment. One day they will learn they can't eat money...

Corporations are using 20+ police agencies that have no jurisdiction, to push people off of their land using EMINENT DOMAIN so a corporation can run a pipeline over sacred land threatening their water supply.

Water Protector in Critical Condition After DAPL Police Grenade Blew Apart Her Arm

Sunday night’s no-holds-barred offensive by police from multiple agencies against unarmed water protectors opposed to the Dakota Access Pipeline on Highway 1806’s Backwater Bridge — in which at least 167 suffered injuries — sent two elders into cardiac arrest, left a 13-year-old girl injured by a rubber bullet to the head, and now, one woman will almost certainly lose her arm.

Sophia Walinsky stood among the crowd of around 400 water protectors as the police launched an all-out assault, firing ‘nonlethal’ projectiles, tear gas, mace, LRAD sound cannons, and concussion grenades — one of which reportedly exploded on her left arm, tearing through flesh and exposing bone, and leaving her facing possible amputation.

She is reportedly being cared for in a hospital in Minnesota, and at the time this article was published, the fate of her arm was still unknown

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/water-protector-dapl-grenade-destroys-arm/

I hate these corporations just like you hate government.

 

[barfo]

No, I advocated it being a state issue. If the state of California decides to increase min. wage, then it is what it is. If I don't like it, then I can move our corporation in another State that helps my bottom line. That becomes the choice of the company, not the government.

Pretty sure that's the situation now and will be the situation in the future. There is a federal minimum wage now, and there is a CA minimum wage, and they aren't the same.

So I guess you are arguing for abolishing the federal minimum wage? You think workers in Alabama should be paid less than $7/hour or whatever it is right now?

barfo

 

[magnifier661]

Pretty sure that's the situation now and will be the situation in the future. There is a federal minimum wage now, and there is a CA minimum wage, and they aren't the same.

So I guess you are arguing for abolishing the federal minimum wage? You think workers in Alabama should be paid less than $7/hour or whatever it is right now?

barfo

I think the states should decide on what requirement is the minimum wage for their citizens since they are elected by those in their state. If the citizens don't like it, then they can vote out any leadership that doesn't increase their wage.

 

[barfo]

I think the states should decide on what requirement is the minimum wage for their citizens since they are elected by those in their state. If the citizens don't like it, then they can vote out any leadership that doesn't increase their wage.

Wait, I thought you were a 'drain the swamp' guy. Are you telling me that state governments are never corrupt and always do what's in the best interest of the population, rather than, say, in the interest of businesses who might want a low minimum wage and have certain inducements to offer lawmakers in exchange?

barfo

 

[PtldPlatypus]

They aren't as evil as you think. Well, most of them aren't. They are just people that want to make the most money for their shareholders. The politicians that allow lobbyist and special interest in are to blame. A public servant should look up the definition of that term before taking office.

There's an argument to be made that the non-teenage people working at Wal-mart would--without Wal-mart's existence--be working at local small businesses that would have space to exist if Wal-mart didn't undercut their pricing. The follow-on to that is an implication that increasing the minimum wage might in fact raise prices at Wal-mart, but only to a level that people would already be paying at other businesses in a hypothetical Wal-mart-less world.

 

[dviss1]

Wait, I thought you were a 'drain the swamp' guy. Are you telling me that state governments are never corrupt and always do what's in the best interest of the population, rather than, say, in the interest of businesses who might want a low minimum wage and have certain inducements to offer lawmakers in exchange?

barfo

Corporations and Corporatist government are the ones who have convinced citizens to be against a minimum wage and any tax increases with another trickle down lie.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Warning^^^^^the link shows what is left of the poor girl's arm. Not pretty, yeah that arm is a goner.

What is wrong with this world? I've wondered since the cops blew up a guy with a robot.

 

[dviss1]

Warning^^^^^the link shows what is left of the poor girl's arm. Not pretty, yeah that arm is a goner.

What is wrong with this world? I've wondered since the cops blew up a guy with a robot.

Lots of people in here blindly support the police while at the same time hating government. Well you can't have it both ways people. You can't on one hand say that you hate the government but love the enforcers of government. You think that the government is coming to take your guns away? Well who the hell do you think is going to do it if it ever happens? It'll be your local police department, the National Guard, and the military.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Lots of people in here blindly support the police while at the same time hating government. Well you can't have it both ways people. You can't on one hand say that you hate the government but love the enforcers of government. You think that the government is coming to take your guns away? Well who the hell do you think is going to do it if it ever happens? It'll be your local police department, the National Guard, and the military.

Even if I completely supported the govt in a given situation they can't do shit like that.

 

[Nate]

There's an argument to be made that the non-teenage people working at Wal-mart would--without Wal-mart's existence--be working at local small businesses that would have space to exist if Wal-mart didn't undercut their pricing. The follow-on to that is an implication that increasing the minimum wage might in fact raise prices at Wal-mart, but only to a level that people would already be paying at other businesses in a hypothetical Wal-mart-less world.

If only that family wasn't so stingy. They made 50 billion in profit last year. Not revenue. Profit. Both of the children got checks for 19 million. I'm all for capitalism, but holy fuck, they can afford to pay their employees more. They wouldn't be happy with 49 billion? They don't even need to raise the hourly wage, they could give them end of year bonuses, overtime, etc.

 

[MarAzul]

Don't act like it's good policy.

Walmart. They're costing us +60 Bil by not paying their workers a living wage.

Holy Crap! What a lack of perception! Most of those jobs at Walmart ought to be jobs kids get to learn how to begin being productive. Man! It might even make it tolerable to go in the damn place if some smart kids where working there that could answer a simple question about where and what.

America needs real jobs for people producing things of worth, so that they can earn a decent wage. Moving junk from the third world through a tilt up store to a crowd mostly there to keep warm is not a job that is designed to provide a living wage. Shouldn't be, never will be.

 

[magnifier661]

Wait, I thought you were a 'drain the swamp' guy. Are you telling me that state governments are never corrupt and always do what's in the best interest of the population, rather than, say, in the interest of businesses who might want a low minimum wage and have certain inducements to offer lawmakers in exchange?

barfo

Drain the swamp is a reflection of the "D.C. Swamp" not a state government. A state, even if corrupt, can have localized voters that can make a difference. There is a big difference

 

[magnifier661]

There's an argument to be made that the non-teenage people working at Wal-mart would--without Wal-mart's existence--be working at local small businesses that would have space to exist if Wal-mart didn't undercut their pricing. The follow-on to that is an implication that increasing the minimum wage might in fact raise prices at Wal-mart, but only to a level that people would already be paying at other businesses in a hypothetical Wal-mart-less world.

Agreed but I don't want our federal government to force businesses to pay a certain wage. The states can decide on that with the localized voters. There have been many locals of small towns forcing the city council and mayor to not allow a big box retailer in their town. Happens all the time.

 

[Jade Falcon]

Shamelessly copied from a comment on a Yahoo Article:

'Twas the night before the election, and in the Liberal House Not a creature was working, not even their spouse;
No stockings were hung by the chimney with care, because they were hoping a Hillary Victory would soon be there;
The Hillary voters were nestled all snug in their beds, While continued visions of free cell phones danced in their heads;
And mamma with her free healthcare, and unemployment benefits with no cap, Had just settled down for another free winter's nap,
When out on the lawn there arose such a clatter, They sprang from their beds to see what was the matter.
Away to the TV they flew like a flash, Flipped on CNN hoping for more free cash.
Trump Won, please, say it aint so Hillary didn’t shatter the glass ceiling, oh no,
When, what to their wondering eyes should appear, But a sign from Trump, they have to get a job next year,
With one election, so inspiring and quick, America took away their Misses Saint Nick.
No more huge taxes for the working and spending pretty much insane, and they began whistling and shouting and calling people names;
"Now, Hillary! Now, Obama! Now, Franken and Reid! On, Pelosi! On Feinstein! On, Baucus and Biden!
Out of Washington! We’re building a wall! Get the fuck out of here, we just fired you all!"
-@TheGrinch

And a buddy of mine sent me these:





You can't get any funnier than that!

 

[MarAzul]

I think the states should decide on what requirement is the minimum wage for their citizens since they are elected by those in their state. If the citizens don't like it, then they can vote out any leadership that doesn't increase their wage.

Golly, Another example of the need to adhere to the 10th amendment.

 

[MarAzul]

You think workers in Alabama should be paid...

I don't think what the workers in Alabama get paid is any of my business.
I would like to hear they are all working though.

 

[barfo]

I don't think what the workers in Alabama get paid is any of my business.
I would like to hear they are all working though.

Isn't the flow of jobs to low-wage areas something that Trump voters are all upset about? If you are a laid-off worker in Ohio, does it make you happier to be unemployed because your job went to Alabama instead of Mexico?

barfo

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Isn't the flow of jobs to low-wage areas something that Trump voters are all upset about? If you are a laid-off worker in Ohio, does it make you happier to be unemployed because your job went to Alabama instead of Mexico?

barfo

Yes, stupid question.

If I found out the dog I had that disappeared when I was a kid was found and taken care of by a loving family I'd feel better than if I found out he starved to death.

 

[MarAzul]

Isn't the flow of jobs to low-wage areas something that Trump voters are all upset about? If you are a laid-off worker in Ohio, does it make you happier to be unemployed because your job went to Alabama instead of Mexico?

barfo

Absolutely.

Psst! Is he kidding?

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Absolutely.

Psst! Is he kidding?

Nope

 

[Jade Falcon]

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

#ThanksTrump

 

[dviss1]

Fuckin disgusting...

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/trum..._us_5839ffcbe4b000af95ee61bd?section=politics

 

[Denny Crane]

Don't act like it's good policy.

Walmart. They're costing us +60 Bil by not paying their workers a living wage.

How much would it cost the government to house and feed those people if they had no job at all?

Be careful what you wish for.