That Veteran feel for the Blazers

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Veteran feel = Marcus Camby and Andre Miller.

I agree that Roy and Aldridge aren't young guys anymore, but it takes a while to get that calm, cool, and collected attitude. I think Camby has really imprinted his style on the team. You can just see it when hes' on the floor. I'd say Camby has had a better effect on the team than Miller has though.
 
Indeed the team feels different this year. I would agree with Nate though that B-Roy and especially LMA aren't quite there yet, especially when the double team comes!

..the Blazers are in that target zone of youth and experience. They’re old enough to know what to do, young enough to still be able to do it.
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Were in the Zone, lets get it done. Championship. I said it, its possible.
 
HailBlazers said:
Indeed the team feels different this year. I would agree with Nate though that B-Roy and especially LMA aren't quite there yet, especially when the double team comes!



Were in the Zone, lets get it done. Championship. I said it, its possible.
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I really need to see more from this team before I'm ready to start patting them on the back. We've got a really tough stretch of games coming up and I want to see how we handle it. If we go 8-2 or 9-1, I will be VERY impressed. I think we might go 7-3, which is also fine.
 
I think the Camby/Miller imprint is unmistakeable. You can tell these guys are comfortable in their own skin and it's finally starting to rub off on the 'new vets'. When we get all our bigs back, that elusive combo of youth, depth and experience = likely deep run in the playoffs.

It may be a bit too soon for the backpatting, but I can't help feeling optimistic about the mix we have out there. I see A LOT of 8-2, 7-3 stretches on the horizon.
 
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Elton said:
I think the Camby/Miller imprint is unmistakeable. You can tell these guys are comfortable in their own skin and it's finally starting to rub off on the 'new vets'. When we get all our bigs back, that elusive combo of youth, depth and experience = likely deep run in the playoffs.

It may be a bit too soon for the backpatting, but I can't help feeling optimistic about the mix we have out there. I see A LOT of 8-2, 7-3 stretches on the horizon.
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You and me both :bgrin:

I think we also have to attribute this to Batum though. If he hadn't caught fire against Phoenix, we might not have won that game. We've had some very timely contributions from guys and we can only hope that it's going to be a trend.
 
The biggest positive I have seen, and granted, it is two games against borderline playoff teams, is that, while we have needed a good fourth wuarter each game to get the win, the fourth quarter wasn't Roy iso-ing at the top of the key for half the quarter. It was lock down defense leading to turnovers, mistakes and bad shots by the opponent, and decent offensive execution. We all know Roy can take over a game when needed. For us as a team to take over a fourth quarter without him needing to do that, to me, shows there's still another level we can turn it up to, IMO.
 
Man, no doubt. We talk so much about Roy and Aldridge, but Batum is a key cog and certainly deserves more credit for what he brings to the table. Comparisons to Tayshaun Prince during the Piston's run are becoming more and more justified.

I hope we can keep him.

I also feel that we're approaching the "we don't need another hero" level of collective team talent, maybe a lot like the aforementioned Pistons of yore.
 
I still worry about our bench, however. Granted, we are still awaiting a return of two big men, which will help. But I'm not a fan of the disappearing act in game 2. A big issue of ours has been consistency off of the bench, and not knowing when we'll get a contribution from that unit. I think a healthy Oden and Przybilla obviously helps that, because if you are actually able to slide Camby to the bench, it's another stabilizing force. Still, the next 10 or so games, I'd love to see consistent production from them. I have liked seeing one of Aldridge or Roy almost on the court at all times.
 
Elton said:
Man, no doubt. We talk so much about Roy and Aldridge, but Batum is a key cog and certainly deserves more credit for what he brings to the table. Comparisons to Tayshaun Prince during the Piston's run are becoming more and more justified.

I hope we can keep him.

I also feel that we're approaching the "we don't need another hero" level of collective team talent, maybe a lot like the aforementioned Pistons of yore.
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Oh, I'm not worried about keeping him. Batum will be here for a while (unless we trade him).
 
Miller and Camby haven't ever really been known as veteran leaders, but they are both smart players. Roy has played like a vet since his first game as a Blazer. Batum plays like he's 28.

I think these players are finally getting comfortable with one another and the coaching is better this year. This group has always had grit; now I think we have confidence.
 
maxiep said:
Miller and Camby haven't ever really been known as veteran leaders, but they are both smart players. Roy has played like a vet since his first game as a Blazer. Batum plays like he's 28.

I think these players are finally getting comfortable with one another and the coaching is better this year. This group has always had grit; now I think we have confidence.
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Miller definitely, but I've noticed Camby really leaving an imprint on this team since day one. He calls out plays on defense, gets the guys going, and provides a calming force on the court. I think he really sets the tone on defense, in much the same way that Pippen did when he got here.
 
I noticed that too. I was talking with a co-worker and mentioned that in the Clippers game, even when they went down by 4 in the last quarter, I never felt like the game was in jeopardy. They never looked even slightly stressed. When they walked back on the court after timeout I saw a calm intensity on their faces. It was like they were pacing themselves through the game and when it came to crunch time it wasn't about trying not to lose, it was about going in and taking that game. Showing the young Clippers exactly who they are and that they can't hang with them.

It was funny because it reminded me of a game against Phoenix about 3 seasons ago. I remember the Suns taking the court and thinking they looked like men and our guys looked like boys. Now it's our guys looking like men compared to the other team! I like this way better.
 
RR7 said:
The biggest positive I have seen, and granted, it is two games against borderline playoff teams, is that, while we have needed a good fourth quarter each game to get the win, the fourth quarter wasn't Roy iso-ing at the top of the key for half the quarter. It was lock down defense leading to turnovers, mistakes and bad shots by the opponent, and decent offensive execution. We all know Roy can take over a game when needed. For us as a team to take over a fourth quarter without him needing to do that, to me, shows there's still another level we can turn it up to, IMO.
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Also my opinion. reptt. If your defense is that solid it takes loads of pressure off the offense because you create more opportunities for the offense. Hopefully in our case more faast breaks!
 
They've lost that rookie feeling.... whoa whoa that rookie feeling....

They've lost that rookie feeling and it's gone... gone... gone...

Whoa... whoa... whoa-whoa whoa...
 
SlyPokerDog said:
They've lost that rookie feeling.... whoa whoa that rookie feeling....

They've lost that rookie feeling and it's gone... gone... gone...

Whoa... whoa... whoa-whoa whoa...
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Did you know that they're going to make a Top Gun II?
 
Well, to be fair the Blazers have looked like the pinnacle of composure against the Clippers and the Suns.

The Suns are trying to deal with the post-Amare reality. They're bread-and-butter play (Nash/Amare pick and roll) is gone. Nash was logging huge minutes, which he doesn't really do. That's a tough transition for them.

The Clips are trying to figure out just how awesome Griffin is, and were probably taken off-guard when he collapsed in the 4th from rookie exhaustion. So Baron Davis did his usual three pointer bullshit, and the rest of the sad-sack clippers followed suit.

So far the Blazers have shown me they are a lot more mentally tough than those two squads. Which is great. It's kind of what I expect, but just because I expect it doesn't mean I shouldn't be happy to get it.

But I'll feel more confident about this team when it does so against a playoff squad that is notoriously tough minded and isn't in the midst of major transition.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Did you know that they're going to make a Top Gun II?
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I've had so many people tell me I look like Kelly McGillis in the years since Top Gun came out.

If you've seen any recent photos you realize the years haven't been too kind to her. I really don't want to hear that if she's in the sequel. :smiley-eek2:
 
He mentions B-Roy and LMA remembering losses to Kevin Garnett's T-Wolves?
 
Haha, yeah, I noticed that. Well, he was half right. He was probably pissed he didn't get to play with Roy instead of Foye.
 
mook said:
Well, to be fair the Blazers have looked like the pinnacle of composure against the Clippers and the Suns.

The Suns are trying to deal with the post-Amare reality. They're bread-and-butter play (Nash/Amare pick and roll) is gone. Nash was logging huge minutes, which he doesn't really do. That's a tough transition for them.

The Clips are trying to figure out just how awesome Griffin is, and were probably taken off-guard when he collapsed in the 4th from rookie exhaustion. So Baron Davis did his usual three pointer bullshit, and the rest of the sad-sack clippers followed suit.

So far the Blazers have shown me they are a lot more mentally tough than those two squads. Which is great. It's kind of what I expect, but just because I expect it doesn't mean I shouldn't be happy to get it.

But I'll feel more confident about this team when it does so against a playoff squad that is notoriously tough minded and isn't in the midst of major transition.
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damning with faint praise. They aight, I guess, jus' doin' wat they spose to do.

I mostly agree for what its worth.

As for the Clippers game, I was stunned at what Griffin was doing in the first quarter. Geez that dude was FAST and crazy active. Before the 1st had ended, I said to myself, "Blake Griffin better start learning to pace himself, that dude is going to blow a gasket." Sure enough.

But as this thread is about Vet feel, you could see in the game no upset or loss of composure by the Blazers. They looked at this guy flying all over the court and dunking, they just went "eh, two points is still just two points, we will trot down to the other end and get them back. Game is 48 minutes long."
 
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Masbee said:
damning with faint praise. They aight, I guess, jus' doin' wat they spose to do.

I mostly agree for what its worth.

As for the Clippers game, I was stunned at what Griffin was doing in the first quarter. Geez that dude was FAST and crazy active. Before the 1st had ended, I said to myself, "Blake Griffin better start learning to pace himself, that dude is going to blow a gasket." Sure enough.

But as this thread is about Vet feel, you could see in the game no upset or loss of composure by the Blazers. They looked at this guy flying all over the court and dunking, they just went "eh, two points is still just two points, we will trot down to the other end and get them back. Game is 48 minutes long."
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And Roy turned to him and said, "This is why I don't do shit in the preseason rook.... It's all about pacing yourself."
 
Yeah, if Griffin can get his cardio up to the point where he can play like that for 30-35 minutes a night, jesus he's going to be great. As it is, Aldridge is now just as far away from making an All Star game as he was last year. Amare's gone, but if it comes down to Aldridge and Griffin, Griffin is going to get it.
 
mook said:
Yeah, if Griffin can get his cardio up to the point where he can play like that for 30-35 minutes a night, jesus he's going to be great. As it is, Aldridge is now just as far away from making an All Star game as he was last year. Amare's gone, but if it comes down to Aldridge and Griffin, Griffin is going to get it.
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I think it's because people don't like "soft" power forwards as much as they like a forward who can just dominate the paint. I don't put Dirk into that category because he's just insane from the perimeter. Aldridge is not.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I think it's because people don't like "soft" power forwards as much as they like a forward who can just dominate the paint. I don't put Dirk into that category because he's just insane from the perimeter. Aldridge is not.
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I'm one of those people. I hate this new hybrid 4 trend thats taking the NBA by storm. I want a rough and tumble PF. A player who will get down and dirty. In fact, Brian Grant in his prime was my ideal 4.
 
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