The 2nd Presidential Debate - The Donald vs The Hillary!

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I hope that the next joke candidate the Republicans nominate is Ben Carson. I really enjoy the way he strings words together in a jumble and... MY LUGGAGE!

barfo
 
Sedatedfork said:
Weird how Fox News left out that this witness also claims to have pimped children to Parliament. Seems like a bizarre fame seeker. Not sure how credible he really is.
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Well I guess the credibility goes both ways right? Oh never mind, liberals don't give a shit about credibility. They just eat that fucking ClintonNewsNetwork up like gospel!
 
blue32 said:
Well I guess the credibility goes both ways right? Oh never mind, liberals don't give a shit about credibility. They just eat that fucking ClintonNewsNetwork up like gospel!
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So, you think the women are all lying?

Personally, I wish this had never come up, because it can't be proven.

I'd much rather be talking about how he took credit for a donation for 9/11 relief but never actually gave any money. That also makes him a sleazeball, but provably so.

barfo
 
barfo said:
So, you think the women are all lying?

Personally, I wish this had never come up, because it can't be proven.

I'd much rather be talking about how he took credit for a donation for 9/11 relief but never actually gave any money. That also makes him a sleazeball, but provably so.

barfo
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I can't talk about the women. I'd say with the amount of corruption from the Hillary campaign that anything is possible. Her staff could have set all of this up in a heart beat. I mean funny how it all came out right now, right as the Podesta emails dropped......

The point is, I do not believe a fucking thing when it comes to these "sex assault" allegations, bc one there was no police report filed and two there was no civil suit. So at this point it is just a bunch of bullshit.


Now when it comes to Hilary and her shit, at least we have real emails to prove that she is a corrupt son of a bitch.
 
blue32 said:
I can't talk about the women. I'd say with the amount of corruption from the Hillary campaign that anything is possible. Her staff could have set all of this up in a heart beat. I mean funny how it all came out right now, right as the Podesta emails dropped......
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Well, the Access Hollywood tape came out just before the first Podesta emails. So if you want to get all conspiracy-theoried, maybe it's suspicious that the Podesta emails came out at that time.

The point is, I do not believe a fucking thing when it comes to these "sex assault" allegations, bc one there was no police report filed and two there was no civil suit. So at this point it is just a bunch of bullshit.
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Except that one of them did file suit at the time.

Now when it comes to Hilary and her shit, at least we have real emails to prove that she is a corrupt son of a bitch.
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If you say so. I don't see any smoking guns myself with Hillary's fingerprints on them (there might be one with either or both of Donna Brazille and Roland Martin's on them).

barfo
 
blue32 said:
Well I guess the credibility goes both ways right? Oh never mind, liberals don't give a shit about credibility. They just eat that fucking ClintonNewsNetwork up like gospel!
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What happened to fair and balanced?
 
barfo said:
Well, the Access Hollywood tape came out just before the first Podesta emails. So if you want to get all conspiracy-theoried, maybe it's suspicious that the Podesta emails came out at that time.



Except that one of them did file suit at the time.



If you say so. I don't see any smoking guns myself with Hillary's fingerprints on them (there might be one with either or both of Donna Brazille and Roland Martin's on them).

barfo
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Yes, barfo. The Podesta emails came out as a deliberate October Surprise. Assange announced it days and weeks ahead of time that it was his intention to do so. He's not the media pretending to be honest.

Brazille and Martin. Hiliar sure hires good people.
 
Denny Crane said:
Yes, barfo. The Podesta emails came out as a deliberate October Surprise. Assange announced it days and weeks ahead of time that it was his intention to do so. He's not the media pretending to be honest.

Brazille and Martin. Hiliar sure hires good people.
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serious question...why do you stereotype "media" as if it's a big communist country? You of all people should know the difference in periodicals and journalists..there's a publication or article supporting any number of views .....Trump has basically slandered so many news organizations that editors are predictably counter punching. It's simple....if you don't want media influencing your understanding of truth...don't follow those feeds...
 
Assange is another piece of work....maybe somebody's hero but to me....he's a fugitive rapist on the lam..fuck him. He calls himself a journalist and media is his soapbox.....where does he garner all this "trust".....I guess his computer results are perfect...flawless and not constructed with his own agenda influencing everything. So the media is dishonest but Assange is honest media? whew........Assange IS media...he leaks words and identifies sources..
 
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Sedatedfork said:
What happened to fair and balanced?
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Honestly I wish it was reported like that. I try to read all of the major news networks when finding out about stuff but the bias is nuts , you can't find much information about podesta emails other than fox.

Anyway can't wait for this shit to be over
 
blue32 said:
Honestly I wish it was reported like that. I try to read all of the major news networks when finding out about stuff but the bias is nuts , you can't find much information about podesta emails other than fox.

Anyway can't wait for this shit to be over
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I do too. Frequently check out all major news web sites. I can't wait for this to be over too, as is most of America.
 
riverman said:
serious question...why do you stereotype "media" as if it's a big communist country? You of all people should know the difference in periodicals and journalists..there's a publication or article supporting any number of views .....Trump has basically slandered so many news organizations that editors are predictably counter punching. It's simple....if you don't want media influencing your understanding of truth...don't follow those feeds...
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The media isn't influencing MY views, but they are influencing the polls.

The polls say people aren't enthusiastic about voting for Hiliar. They say people ARE enthusiastic about voting for Trump. Talking about Hiliar's pluses is a loser (according to the polls). The only viable strategy for her to win is to make her less worse than Trump. To do that, hammer on Trump and not even really talk about Hiliar. Talk about the WikiLeaks as little as possible.

For her part, she's not even campaigning. The more people see her, the less people want to vote for her.
 
riverman said:
Assange is another piece of work....maybe somebody's hero but to me....he's a fugitive rapist on the lam..fuck him. He calls himself a journalist and media is his soapbox.....where does he garner all this "trust".....I guess his computer results are perfect...flawless and not constructed with his own agenda influencing everything. So the media is dishonest but Assange is honest media? whew........Assange IS media...he leaks words and identifies sources..
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WikiLeaks is nothing more than a library of meticulously vetted facts and both intellectual and physical evidence of corruption and crimes that previously had been hidden from public awareness. It has a perfect record of accuracy since it's inception 10 years ago. You simply can't get better than perfect.

To discount without even reading a source known to the entire world to be absolutely 100% accurate indicates an irrational fear of knowledge/reality has crippled your very freedom of thought.

What is WikiLeaks

3 November 2015

WikiLeaks is a multi-national media organization and associated library. It was founded by its publisher Julian Assange in 2006.


WikiLeaks specializes in the analysis and publication of large datasets of censored or otherwise restricted official materials involving war, spying and corruption. It has so far published more than 10 million documents and associated analyses.


“WikiLeaks is a giant library of the world’s most persecuted documents. We give asylum to these documents, we analyze them, we promote them and we obtain more.” - Julian Assange, Der Spiegel Interview


WikiLeaks has contractual relationships and secure communications paths to more than 100 major media organizations from around the world. This gives WikiLeaks sources negotiating power, impact and technical protections that would otherwise be difficult or impossible to achieve.


Although no organization can hope to have a perfect record forever, thus far WikiLeaks has a perfect in document authentication and resistance to all censorship attempts.


WikiLeaks, its publisher and its journalists have won many awards, including:


  • The Economist New Media Award (2008)
  • The Amnesty New Media Award (2009)
  • TIME Magazine Person of the Year, People’s Choice (highest global vote) (2010)
  • The Sam Adams Award for Integrity (2010)
  • The National Union of Journalists Journalist of the Year (Hrafnsson) (2011)
  • The Sydney Peace Foundation Gold Medal (2011)
  • The Martha Gellhorn Prize for Journalism (2011)
  • The Blanquerna Award for Best Communicator (2011)
  • The Walkley Award for Most Outstanding Contribution to Journalism (2011)
  • The Voltaire Award for Free Speech (2011)
  • The International Piero Passetti Journalism Prize of the National Union of Italian Journalists (2011)
  • The Jose Couso Press Freedom Award (2011)
  • The Privacy International Hero of Privacy (2012)
  • The Global Exchange Human Rights People’s Choice Award (2013)
  • The Yoko Ono Lennon Courage Award for the Arts (2013)
  • The Brazillian Press Association Human Rights Award (2013)
  • The Kazakstan Union of Journalists Top Prize (2014)

As well as nominations for the UN Mandela Prize (2015) and nominations in six consecutive years for the Nobel Peace Prize (2010-2015)


WikiLeaks is entirely funded by its publisher, its publication sales and the general public.


WikiLeaks has more than one hundred other staff accross the Americas, Africa, Eurasia and the Asia Pacific.


The WikiLeaks Files (Verso, Sep 2015)


WikiLeaks legal team is lead by judge Baltasar Garzón in Europe and in the United States, Michael Ratner, president emeritus of Center for Constitutional Rights.


WikiLeaks ongoing legal cases are best described in this UN report (2015) from the Center for Constitutional Rights


Julian Assange’s ongoing detention without charge is best described here: https://justice4assange.com/3-Years-in-Embassy.html


“This great library built from the courage and sweat of many has had a five-year confrontation with a powerpower without losing a single “book”. At the same time, these “books” have educated many, and in some cases, in a literal sense, let the innocent go free.” - Julian Assange, Der Spiegel Interview


WikiLeaks is cited in more than 28 thousands academic papers and US court filings


Formal UN documents


European Court of Human Rights


UK courts

https://wikileaks.org/
 
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