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MARIS61 said:
You mean anti-war actions. His quick winning wrap-ups of the wars in Syria and Afghanistan, his historic Abraham Accords Peace Treaties, his scuttling of ObamaBiden's funding of Iran's global terrorism.

That's why your Deep State puppet friends hate POTUS TRUMP.
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What about Trump's terrorism in Yemen?
 
https://www.americamagazine.org/pol...ileone-nancy-pelosi-communion-abortion-243037

Archbishop Cordileone on barring Nancy Pelosi from Communion: ‘I cannot in my conscience allow the situation to continue.’

On May 20, Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone said in a public statement that Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, a life-long Catholic, will be barred from Communion in her home diocese of San Francisco. Gloria Purvis, the host of America Media’s “The Gloria Purvis Podcast,” spoke to the archbishop about his decision.............
 
ABM said:
https://www.americamagazine.org/pol...ileone-nancy-pelosi-communion-abortion-243037

Archbishop Cordileone on barring Nancy Pelosi from Communion: ‘I cannot in my conscience allow the situation to continue.’

On May 20, Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone said in a public statement that Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, a life-long Catholic, will be barred from Communion in her home diocese of San Francisco. Gloria Purvis, the host of America Media’s “The Gloria Purvis Podcast,” spoke to the archbishop about his decision.............
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The horror! My goodness. What a heathen.
 
Same archbishop who insisted on indoor services during pandemic. Because he is so pro life. Also notorious gay hater.
 
ABM said:
Wow, so this oughta be interesting.....to say the least.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/18/politics/catholic-bishops-biden/index.html

US Catholic bishops advance communion document, setting up potential rebuke of Biden


(CNN) The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops on Friday proceeded with a plan that would deny communion to public figures who support abortion rights, setting up a potential public rebuke of President Joe Biden.

By a vote of 168 to 55, with six abstentions, the bishops went forward with plans for a report on the meaning of the Eucharist in the church. The vote is part of a longer process, and a rebuke of Biden and other Catholic politicians who support abortion rights is not assured. The report will be developed over the summer and presented for amendments and approval in November.

The Vatican would have to approve any action on behalf of the bishops, and would likely delay that approval if a pointed report is issued.

Biden, an abortion rights advocate who is the first Catholic US president in nearly 60 years, is the most openly religious president since Jimmy Carter. This movement is driven by the extremely conservative wing of the Catholic Church.

Some bishops want the report to be a broader teaching tool for all Catholics about the importance of the sacrament of communion and they have been reminding their fellows of the Pope's exhortation to avoid divisiveness.
Asked at the end of remarks at the White House Friday afternoon about the vote, Biden replied, "That's a private matter and I don't think it's going to happen."

Pew surveys show more than half of US Catholics favor abortion rights and most American Catholics do not believe Biden should be refused communion.
Catholics for Choice, a liberal Catholic group that advocates for abortion rights, said it was "profoundly saddened" by Friday's vote and condemned using the Eucharist "as a weapon of punishment."

"In a country and church already riven with tension and division, today the bishops chose to be partisan instead of pastoral, cruel rather than Christ-like," the group said. "They have chosen to disobey Jesus's command to 'feed one another,' but everyday U.S. Catholics -- 67 percent of whom oppose withholding Communion and other Sacraments from supporters of abortion rights -- will continue to know better and do better."

Biden has for years been asked to square his devout Catholicism with his politics.

The President has been a regular at Mass since childhood and attended Catholic schools. He married his late first wife, Neilia, in a Catholic church and peppers his political speech with quotes from Scripture, Catholic hymns and references to the nuns and priests he learned from in school.

While Biden has personally opposed abortion on religious grounds, he's also said that he doesn't want to force his opinion on others.

"I accept my church's position on abortion as a what we call de fide doctrine. Life begins at conception. That's the church's judgment. I accept it in my personal life," he said during the 2012 vice presidential debate. "But I refuse to impose it on equally devout Christians and Muslims and Jews. I just refuse to impose that on others," he said.

He added: "I do not believe that we have a right to tell other people, women, that they can't control their bodies. That's a decision between them and their doctor, in my view, and the Supreme Court, I'm not going to interfere with that."

In 2019, Biden was denied communion at a Catholic church in South Carolina over his support for abortion rights.

"I am not going to discuss that. That is just my personal life," Biden said after the incident.
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70% of the voters want abortion. This means big time trouble for Republicans. And this also means I'm not worried about the Catholic Bishops.
 
crandc said:
Same archbishop who insisted on indoor services during pandemic. Because he is so pro life. Also notorious gay hater.
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My priest came to see me and give me Communion Sunday. I cried as I confessed my support for Black Lives Matter, the LGBTQ community and all others who are disadvantaged and admitted to feeling their pain as mine. Yes, I'm nothing more than a decent human being.
Side note, I also like cats and dogs. I remember as a nine year old boy picking up all the cats on my street on a rainy day and bringing them to our car port so they could dry off and get a blanket to sleep on while they lapped up some milk and ate some of our left overs. Must have had somewhere between 8 and 12 cats. They were free to go after the rain.
 
Lanny said:
My priest came to see me and give me Communion Sunday. I cried as I confessed my support for Black Lives Matter, the LGBTQ community and all others who are disadvantaged and admitted to feeling their pain as mine. Yes, I'm nothing more than a decent human being.
Side note, I also like cats and dogs. I remember as a nine year old boy picking up all the cats on my street on a rainy day and bringing them to our car port so they could dry off and get a blanket to sleep on while they lapped up some milk and ate some of our left overs. Must have had somewhere between 8 and 12 cats. They were free to go after the rain.
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You're a good man Lanny and I hope you're doing ok....I know you were going through some stuff a while back. I hope you are in a good place my friend.
 
riverman said:
You're a good man Lanny and I hope you're doing ok....I know you were going through some stuff a while back. I hope you are in a good place my friend.
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Now along with difficulty getting in and out of my office I've got ever increasing trembling which means frequent resorting to hen pecking and increasing blindness. I've probably got a heart operation in store to replace a faulty heart valve. I'm being held together with bailing wire and duct tape.
 
The abortion issue: the only issue I see is that some of y'all would (should) have been aborted without currently-existing law.
 
crandc said:
At best ambiguous. Auto correct strikes again. She spent her life in Catholic school and church, but she is a realist about why a woman would end a pregnancy. Uncomfortable with abortion but doesn't want it outlawed.
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Most Catholics agree with her.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Yes, I bet you two would have a great time.
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Good ol' Sly......Mr. touchy feely.......

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Lanny said:
All the Catholics I know support abortion rights. I think most of the Catholics support abortion rights and just the higher ups in the Church oppose it.
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I have relatives that our Catholic some democrats and some republicans. They all seem to be nice people too.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
BG hates cats. It was directed at me.

Even though I still love him.
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Hate is a strong word that I rarely use. And when I do, it's almost always unintentional and I have to back up and clarify or change the use of the word to something less definitive.

That being said, I hate that you have yet to be snipped and clipped, high and tight.
 
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