the age of the earth

[3RA1N1AC]

So did the blind matter make a conscious decision to start growing legs?

yeah it took awhile though (hint: longer than 6000 years)

 

[MadeFromDust]

yeah it took awhile though (hint: longer than 6000 years)

Is this where you're going to provide evidence that this can happen?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Is this where you're going to provide evidence that this can happen?

is this where your going to provide evidence that god exists?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

does god have pubes? to protect his genitals? i would guess yes, its pretty cold in space. what about eyebrows?? or eyelashes to keep crap out of his eyes? does he need big toes to keep his balance while walking? i mean, does he even walk? what about a butthole? does he have to eat?

i mean, we were created in his image right?

 

[MadeFromDust]

is this where your going to provide evidence that god exists?

I've given my best arguments on why I believe there is a reality outside of this universe. I believe there is plenty of evidence for God. What evidence is there that fish can grow legs and change their entire body type in order to live on land?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I've given my best arguments on why I believe there is a reality outside of this universe. I believe there is plenty of evidence for God. What evidence is there that fish can grow legs and change their entire body type in order to live on land?

ummm, the fucking picture i just posted?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

i hope heaven has personal thermostats, it would suck if god ran a hot temp and was always cranking the heat because he was chilly

 

[MadeFromDust]

ummm, the fucking picture i just posted?

^ my proof of God. And if those creatures are in the process of evolving then certainly there is observable evidence for it right?

 

[magnifier661]

Where is all of the scientific proof the creationist scientists, of which there are many as you mentioned yesterday, have provided on the existence of god?

Well this is very easy, and it is the same argument that Craig has pleaded to the scientific community. When you give a iron clad theory; then you must accept this theory and try and prove it wrong. How much of the science community's resources have been put on disproving this theory? What gives the community the right to discriminate this scientific request?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

so how old was noah again? like 700 years old or something?

 

[Sedatedfork]

so how old was noah again? like 700 years old or something?

To be married to the same woman for 600+ years has got to suck...

 

[3RA1N1AC]

^ my proof of God. And if those creatures are in the process of evolving then certainly there is observable evidence for it right?

drawings arent the same as a photos, i could easily draw a picture of you worshiping satan, or the great bisexual god monster of titans deepest volcano

and like i said, show me your observable evidence, and ill show you mine

 

[magnifier661]

yeah it took awhile though (hint: longer than 6000 years)

But you know the mathematical improbability; with the laws of physics or at least some physics that it happened in 17 billion years. We are talking 10 to the power of 600 here. Than add the mathematical improbability that the different variances of life was able to evolve; with significant changes in species; what is it like 30 stages, in about 100,000,000 years. We are talking about unfathomable numbers here. 100,000,000 years isn't a long time when you are talking about genetic mutations; especially with modern science seeing that most natural genetic mutations are more harmful than good.

 

[magnifier661]

so how old was noah again? like 700 years old or something?

Now wait a second here. Death comes because of genetic mutations; or at least this is what is claimed as a strong argument. What would happen if the DNA, either it be from the food we eat or the climate prolonged this mutation? Would 700 years be possible?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

the fruit is in the tree, and i cant reach it, so im going to mate with a tall person

we will have tall babies

our babies will be able to reach the fruit all by themselves

evolution

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Now wait a second here. Death comes because of genetic mutations; or at least this is what is claimed as a strong argument. What would happen if the DNA, either it be from the food we eat or the climate prolonged this mutation? Would 700 years be possible?

if we lived in a maximum allowable oxygen environment, and ate nothing but blueberries, exfoliating daily, with ritual green tea enemas and cardio workouts...no

or else you could just do that now, no?

 

[magnifier661]

the fruit is in the tree, and i cant reach it, so im going to mate with a tall person

we will have tall babies

our babies will be able to reach the fruit all by themselves

evolution

Is it? So a dog can mate with a cat because the dog want's retractible claws and dexterity. Is this possible?

 

[magnifier661]

if we lived in a maximum allowable oxygen environment, and ate nothing but blueberries, exfoliating daily, with ritual green tea enemas and cardio workouts...no

or else you could just do that now, no?

What I do know is there are records of people living over 120 years in parts of asia. Some have even lived 140, but hasn't been accepted yet. Like I said on the other thread; I do agree with Craig on the age of the Earth being a metaphor for the simple people back then; but living longer because of climate, environment and food can prolong it.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Is it? So a dog can mate with a cat because the dog want's retractible claws and dexterity. Is this possible?

well, i think we both know a dog will mate with pretty much anything...

think about it, if we kept mating the tallest people together over and over and over until we had a race of 10 foot tall giants, and then in a million years some cockroach scientist digs us up, he is going to say "ive found a new species! humanus giganticus!"

 

[MadeFromDust]

drawings arent the same as a photos, i could easily draw a picture of you worshiping satan, or the great bisexual god monster of titans deepest volcano

and like i said, show me your observable evidence, and ill show you mine

Screams random cosmic accident to me.

 

[RR7]

Well this is very easy, and it is the same argument that Craig has pleaded to the scientific community. When you give a iron clad theory; then you must accept this theory and try and prove it wrong. How much of the science community's resources have been put on disproving this theory? What gives the community the right to discriminate this scientific request?

Iron clad theory?
How do you prove something DOESN'T exist? Can you prove unicorns don't exist? Is there a scientific way to prove they don't exist? Should science spend time finding out? Can you PROVE Santa Claus doesn't exist? Should science go to lengths to prove it?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

PROVE THAT WE ARENT ALL JUST BRAINS IN JARS

 

[magnifier661]

Iron clad theory?
How do you prove something DOESN'T exist? Can you prove unicorns don't exist? Is there a scientific way to prove they don't exist? Should science spend time finding out? Can you PROVE Santa Claus doesn't exist? Should science go to lengths to prove it?

It's funny that you mention unicorns because science felt the need to prove it wrong. And they can't even hold that same respect for the existence of God.

 

[RR7]

there's scientific proof of no unicorns?

 

[magnifier661]

well, i think we both know a dog will mate with pretty much anything...

think about it, if we kept mating the tallest people together over and over and over until we had a race of 10 foot tall giants, and then in a million years some cockroach scientist digs us up, he is going to say "ive found a new species! humanus giganticus!"

Can't happen because we would still have the DNA chain too similar to our short relatives. You do know that Hitler believed that if we didn't "mix breed" and killed the "weaker species" that he can speed up the evolutionary process. And just because over 100,000 years of the present man, mating with taller people, makes us evolve, really only explains micro-evolution.

Now if you give me an instance like "Because of the scarcity of land, through over population; man grew gills and a digestive system for consuming aquatic life". You find me a fossils (hundreds of examples) that explains this and I will be open minded on evolution.

 

[magnifier661]

well, i think we both know a dog will mate with pretty much anything...

think about it, if we kept mating the tallest people together over and over and over until we had a race of 10 foot tall giants, and then in a million years some cockroach scientist digs us up, he is going to say "ive found a new species! humanus giganticus!"

Can't happen because we would still have the DNA chain too similar to our short relatives. You do know that Hitler believed that if we didn't "mix breed" and killed the "weaker species" that he can speed up the evolutionary process. And just because over 100,000 years of the present man, mating with taller people, makes us evolve, really only explains micro-evolution.

Now if you give me an instance like "Because of the scarcity of land, through over population; man grew gills and a digestive system for consuming aquatic life". You find me a fossils (hundreds of examples) that explains this and I will be open minded on evolution.

 

[RR7]

don't we have a dna chain similar to our ape relatives?

 

[MadeFromDust]

don't we have a dna chain similar to our ape relatives?

Yes, because we have the same Creator. We share 50% of the same DNA with bananas too, did we evolve from them?

 

[magnifier661]

don't we have a dna chain similar to our ape relatives?

Being a taller human doesn't classify us as being a different species. I don't agree with it one bit. There are taller humans right now. We cheer them on everyday. Is Bol's DNA classify him as a different species?

 

[MARIS61]

It didn't say two of every animal species, it said two of every kind. I happen to believe in adaption and subtle changes to different environments, aka "micro evolution". That explains different dog breeds and many other examples in species. It's still a dog, just a different kind of dog.

Actually, not.

Dog breeds are primarily man-made:

Dogs have been selectively bred for thousands of years, sometimes by inbreeding dogs from the same ancestral lines, sometimes by mixing dogs from very different lines. The process continues today, resulting in a wide variety of breeds, hybrids and types of dog. Dogs are the only animal with such a wide variation in appearance without speciation, "from the Chihuahua to the Great Dane".