The Blazers Player with the Most Trade Value is Lillard

[PapaG]

If Exum really is going to be a superstar PG, or Wiggins a superstar SF, then Lillard is the one that would have the most trade value in getting either of them. The team getting Dame owns his rights for at least three more season (assuming Q. O. is offered), and gets a young All-Star PG. LMA isn't at all a realistic option for a rebuilding team, since he makes too much money, and is no guarantee to be with that team for more than one season. I suppose LMA could be traded at the deadline in 2015, but that's usually for cap space and draft picks, and would leave that team w/out either LMA or Lillard.

So, for those wanting to swing for the fences, Lillard is the player that will be the easiest to move for one of the drafted players. I don't think any other trade scenario is at all possible, nor do I think Lillard should be traded.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

There are only two players I'd trade Lillard for... LeBron and Durant. That will never happen and I am 100% okay with that.

 

[Strenuus]

It's an awfully beautiful day to stir the pot, don't ya think?

 

[PapaG]

It's an awfully beautiful day to stir the pot, don't ya think?

If it's going to be Imaginary Trade Land here all summer, let's at least be realistic. Lillard has a much higher trade value than LMA. I don't see how that can even be debated, and to get a potential superstar in this draft, the team trading the pick would rather have Lillard under a rookie contract than LMA walking in a year. That's just my opinion, though.

 

[Pinwheel1]

If it's going to be Imaginary Trade Land here all summer, let's at least be realistic. Lillard has a much higher trade value than LMA. I don't see how that can even be debated, and to get a potential superstar in this draft, the team trading the pick would rather have Lillard under a rookie contract than LMA walking in a year. That's just my opinion, though.

I don't think anyone will disagree with that.

 

[cmeese47]

If we are being realistic then trading Lillard makes no sense considering his age, growth potential, and contract. On the other hand LA is coming into the last year of his contract and can leave for nothing. Portland can offer him the most money but considering the tax difference between Oregon and Texas the difference in pay Portland can offer in minimized.

Therefore, to keep LA they will likely need to offer him a max deal that means 5 years 127 million. If Portland can find a team willing to make a substantial offer for LA that becomes the most realistic and best trade for the team to pursue.

 

[PapaG]

If we are being realistic then trading Lillard makes no sense considering his age, growth potential, and contract. On the other hand LA is coming into the last year of his contract and can leave for nothing. Portland can offer him the most money but considering the tax difference between Oregon and Texas the difference in pay Portland can offer in minimized.

Therefore, to keep LA they will likely need to offer him a max deal that means 5 years 127 million. If Portland can find a team willing to make a substantial offer for LA that becomes the most realistic and best trade for the team to pursue.

Thanks for telling me everything I already knew. The point of this thread is that if Wiggins or Exum are so sure things to be great players in the eyes of Olshey, that Lillard would be much more attractive to the team that has the pick to trade either Wiggins or Exum after the draft.

I already know the Blazers could trade LMA for whatever motley crew of role players they get in return, but any GM who would trade a sure-fire NBA MVP (as I read here about Exum/Wiggins) for one year of Lamarcus Aldridge isn't going to have a job very long in the NBA.

 

[KingSpeed]

There are only two players I'd trade Lillard for... LeBron and Durant. That will never happen and I am 100% okay with that.

I wouldn't trade Lillard for those guys. I want to see Lillard win in a Blazers uniform.

 

[cmeese47]

Thanks for telling me everything I already knew. The point of this thread is that if Wiggins or Exum are so sure things to be great players in the eyes of Olshey, that Lillard would be much more attractive to the team that has the pick to trade either Wiggins or Exum after the draft.

I already know the Blazers could trade LMA for whatever motley crew of role players they get in return, but any GM who would trade a sure-fire NBA MVP (as I read here about Exum/Wiggins) for one year of Lamarcus Aldridge isn't going to have a job very long in the NBA.

Of course Lillard would generate more interest but getting a team in that position to gamble on LA is the better trade for Portland. Plus where are these future sure fire MVP posts cause I have not seen them and it just seems like your making stuff up like you did with NBA reserve voting to try and make a point.

 

[PapaG]

Of course Lillard would generate more interest but getting a team in that position to gamble on LA is the better trade for Portland. Plus where are these future sure fire MVP posts cause I have not seen them and it just seems like your making stuff up like you did with NBA reserve voting to try and make a point.

Actually, the better move would be trading Joel Freeland, Meyers Leonard, and CJ McCollum for that pick. If only Olshey can convince a team to make that trade!

Get 'er done, Neil!

 

[BlazerCaravan]

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[BlazerCaravan]

Actually, the better move would be trading Joel Freeland, Meyers Leonard, and CJ McCollum for that pick. If only Olshey can convince a team to make that trade!

Get 'er done, Neil!

Who was GM that traded Gerald Wallace to us for Przybilla, Cunningham, and Sean Marks? Maybe if he is still working, we can try that again.

 

[PapaG]

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You disagree that Lillard has more trade value than LMA? Interesting that my opinion on it would make you so upset.

How many times now have you "ignored" me, and announced it to the board? It's at least 3x now, including your "rep/ignore" combo that you seemed so proud of years ago. I'll continue to read your posts, because opposing opinions don't frighten me, nor do your opinions when I agree with you.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

If Exum really is going to be a superstar PG, or Wiggins a superstar SF, then Lillard is the one that would have the most trade value in getting either of them. The team getting Dame owns his rights for at least three more season (assuming Q. O. is offered), and gets a young All-Star PG. LMA isn't at all a realistic option for a rebuilding team, since he makes too much money, and is no guarantee to be with that team for more than one season. I suppose LMA could be traded at the deadline in 2015, but that's usually for cap space, and would leave that team w/out either LMA or Lillard.

So, for those wanting to swing for the fences, Lillard is the player that will be the easiest to move for one of the drafted players. I don't think any other trade scenario is at all possible, nor do I think Lillard should be traded.

Just wait until Lillard signs his next contract, that's when "fans" will really want to trade him. There will always be someone who gets more assists or plays better defense or gets more steals for less money. They will put up all sorts of stats at how Lillard is overpaid and we would be better off trading him.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

You disagree that Lillard has more trade value than LMA? Anybody with that stupid of an opinion is somebody I don't really need reading my posts.

How many times now have you "ignored" me, and announced it to the board? It's at least 3x now, including your "rep/ignore" combo that you seemed so proud of years ago. I'll continue to read your posts, because opposing opinions don't frighten me, nor do your opinions when I agree with you.

Oh for fuck's sake, it's a joke.

I never took you off ignore. I read all your posts though. It's mostly so I don't have to put up with your posts in the OT forum. Your basketball takes are generally intelligent. And I agree with you, except for the problem of trading Lillard being guaranteed not to get us the value back that we need in return. And that was the whole point in your strawman post, right? No pick is worth what we have in Lillard.

I agree with you.

I think your posts are sometimes heinous.

But I also think you talk basketball okay.

That is all.

I love you.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Just wait until Lillard signs his next contract, that's when "fans" will really want to trade him. There will always be someone who gets more assists or plays better defense or gets more steals for less money. They will put up all sorts of stats at how Lillard is overpaid and we would be better off trading him.

I'm already taking side bets on who will be in the "max contract is too much for Lillard" camp.

 

[PapaG]

Just wait until Lillard signs his next contract, that's when "fans" will really want to trade him. There will always be someone who gets more assists or plays better defense or gets more steals for less money. They will put up all sorts of stats at how Lillard is overpaid and we would be better off trading him.

There will be some other rookie then. I'm just surprised that stating what I think is an obvious opinion would make a poster so upset that they went right to ignore.

If Olshey wants to get an Exum or Wiggins, it's going to take Lillard, and not LMA. I think that's fairly obvious, based on LMA's upcoming UFA status, while Lillard has at the very least 3 more years (2 on contract, one after offering Q.O.) with whichever team would get him this summer.

 

[PapaG]

I'm already taking side bets on who will be in the "max contract is too much for Lillard" camp.

It will be the rookie max, so it will be more Roy-ish than LMA-ish.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

There will be some other rookie then. I'm just surprised that stating what I think is an obvious opinion would make a poster so upset that they went right to ignore.

Imagine your surprise when I later reveal it was all make believe.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

It will be the rookie max, so it will be more Roy-ish than LMA-ish.

As long as the "negotiation process" is not Roy-ish. Boy that was a steaming pile of Canzano-bait.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

There will be some other rookie then. I'm just surprised that stating what I think is an obvious opinion would make a poster so upset that they went right to ignore.

If Olshey wants to get an Exum or Wiggins, it's going to take Lillard, and not LMA. I think that's fairly obvious, based on LMA's upcoming UFA status, while Lillard has at the very least 3 more years (2 on contract, one after offering Q.O.) with whichever team would get him this summer.

I'm not allowed to ignore anyone. The settings in the forum software won't let me.

 

[Natebishop3]

If Exum really is going to be a superstar PG, or Wiggins a superstar SF, then Lillard is the one that would have the most trade value in getting either of them. The team getting Dame owns his rights for at least three more season (assuming Q. O. is offered), and gets a young All-Star PG. LMA isn't at all a realistic option for a rebuilding team, since he makes too much money, and is no guarantee to be with that team for more than one season. I suppose LMA could be traded at the deadline in 2015, but that's usually for cap space, and would leave that team w/out either LMA or Lillard.

So, for those wanting to swing for the fences, Lillard is the player that will be the easiest to move for one of the drafted players. I don't think any other trade scenario is at all possible, nor do I think Lillard should be traded.

If Exum or Wiggins will truly be superstars, then the Blazers aren't the only ones who feel that way and there's no way a team is going to trade their pick for Dame.

By what metric are you using to say that Lillard has more trade value? (I get that this thread is just you being sarcastic, but I'm going to pretend that it's real for a minute).

 

[PapaG]

If Exum or Wiggins will truly be superstars, then the Blazers aren't the only ones who feel that way and there's no way a team is going to trade their pick for Dame.

This thread is literal. Dame is worth more to a team with that pick than LMA. I don't think it's even up for debate, but I'm sure you'll try.

By what metric are you using to say that Lillard has more trade value? (I get that this thread is just you being sarcastic, but I'm going to pretend that it's real for a minute).

Age 23 vs. 28
Contract Dollars ~$10m versus God Knows What for LMA
Contract guarantee to team At least 3 years for Lilllard vs. one for LMA
Bigger position of need - You've always valued PGs more than PFs. Are you saying that NBA GMs think the opposite?

How many more do you need? Which metric would you use to say LMA is more valuable to other teams than Lillard?

 

[Natebishop3]

This thread is literal. Dame is worth more to a team with that pick than LMA. I don't think it's even up for debate, but I'm sure you'll try.

No, I don't think either player is worth more to a team with the pick in the top four.

The ONLY argument that can be made is that Cleveland wants to win now to appease Irving and possibly entice LeBron to sign there, so they trade the #1 for a proven All-Star. That would be Aldridge.

Why would Milwaukee, Philly, or Orlando want either of those players? The Bucks are a shit franchise. LA is too old and he wouldn't re-sign there. Dame is great, but they would probably rather stick with one of the top three or four talents in the draft.

Philly is said to be favoring Exum over MCW, so I doubt they would trade for Dame. Again, they wouldn't want Aldridge because he doesn't fit their window and he probably wouldn't re-sign there.

Orlando is a possibility if Exum is off the board, but at that point I imagine Wiggins would be as well, so there's really no point for the Blazers to trade either of their stars to the Magic.

 

[PapaG]

So your reply is "they won't trade for LMA" vs. "I don't think they'd trade for Dame."

Um, OK. I think you just gave my point validation.

 

[Natebishop3]

So your reply is "they won't trade for LMA" vs. "I don't think they'd trade for Dame."

Um, OK. I think you just gave my point validation.

Your statement is a flat "Dame has more trade value than LA" and that's not necessarily true. My point is that trade value is different to every team in the league. If you polled 29 teams, I'm sure LA would probably come out ahead of Lillard in trade value, but there would probably be one or two teams that would rather have a young star point guard.

 

[PapaG]

Your statement is a flat "Dame has more trade value than LA" and that's not necessarily true. My point is that trade value is different to every team in the league. If you polled 29 teams, I'm sure LA would probably come out ahead of Lillard in trade value, but there would probably be one or two teams that would rather have a young star point guard.

Why, given his age and contract status? You're fucking with me, right?

 

[santeesioux]

Why, given his age and contract status? You're fucking with me, right?

Well, the Houston series is probably still on some minds...

 

[Natebishop3]

Why, given his age and contract status? You're fucking with me, right?

So is the exercise in this thread to get people to defend LA? Is that what you're going for? I have a hard time believing that you just spent the last two or three weeks railing about anyone who would trade Aldridge to now suddenly say that Dame is so much more valuable. If he is so much more valuable to the rest of the league than Aldridge, then he is also that much more valuable to us than Aldridge, so you're just killing your previous arguments about how important Aldirdge is to this team.

 

[PapaG]

Well, the Houston series is probably still on some minds...

I suppose, but that doesn't change LMA's age, UFA, or contract status. I'm guessing NB3 is looking at this from a straight on-court perspective?