OT The Boys Are Not All Right

[RR7]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/21/...otings-guns.html?smid=tw-nytopinion&smtyp=cur

Too many boys are trapped in the same suffocating, outdated model of masculinity, where manhood is measured in strength, where there is no way to be vulnerable without being emasculated, where manliness is about having power over others. They are trapped, and they don’t even have the language to talk about how they feel about being trapped, because the language that exists to discuss the full range of human emotion is still viewed as sensitive and feminine.

Men feel isolated, confused and conflicted about their natures. Many feel that the very qualities that used to define them — their strength, aggression and competitiveness — are no longer wanted or needed; many others never felt strong or aggressive or competitive to begin with. We don’t know how to be, and we’re terrified.

yadda yadda "cuck" yadda yadda

food for thought

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/21/...otings-guns.html?smid=tw-nytopinion&smtyp=cur


yadda yadda "cuck" yadda yadda

food for thought

I know this guy from tv. He and I couldn't be much more different. Being raised by women I am the way I am by nature. There's no other explanation unless you wanna blame The A-Team or something.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Oh and I guarantee if some friend ordered for me I'd barely notice. If he made a scene about it I'd probably say "thanks bitch" or something like that.

I'll also hold my wife's purse at the store and not be embarrassed. Guys are weird about that for some reason.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

http://jishirofinney.com/index.php/2018/02/17/533/

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

The real problem is males are raised in weak households. Some people are just fucking crazy and freaks, yet they are tolerated in society when they should be locked the fuck up away from normies.

A lot of the blame goes to the soft ass (mainly white) parents, who celebrate and normalize mental illness instead of address it as something fucked up. White parents are way too fucking lax raising their kids. They let them get away with murder, no discipline, no consequences for their actions. Pussy ass parents raise kids who are fucked up and unchecked. When they can't handle life, they go fucking nuts and shoot up the fucking spot.

 

[MARIS61]

Less traditional nuclear families = less stable society.

Maybe 1/3 of kids grow up with 2 parents teaching them, let alone the same 2 parents.

Public Schools raise kids now, working out great.

 

[stampedehero]

The real problem is males are raised in weak households. Some people are just fucking crazy and freaks, yet they are tolerated in society when they should be locked the fuck up away from normies.

A lot of the blame goes to the soft ass (mainly white) parents, who celebrate and normalize mental illness instead of address it as something fucked up. White parents are way too fucking lax raising their kids. They let them get away with murder, no discipline, no consequences for their actions. Pussy ass parents raise kids who are fucked up and unchecked. When they can't handle life, they go fucking nuts and shoot up the fucking spot.

>From what I see, most parents would be more inclined to exert discipline as their parents gave them that ideology.

 

[H.C.]

The real problem is males are raised in weak households. Some people are just fucking crazy and freaks, yet they are tolerated in society when they should be locked the fuck up away from normies.

A lot of the blame goes to the soft ass (mainly white) parents, who celebrate and normalize mental illness instead of address it as something fucked up. White parents are way too fucking lax raising their kids. They let them get away with murder, no discipline, no consequences for their actions. Pussy ass parents raise kids who are fucked up and unchecked. When they can't handle life, they go fucking nuts and shoot up the fucking spot.

As someone who is around 60+ kids daily.
Trying to say x race is too lax with discipline is complete nonsense.
For every white kid that gets little to no discipline at home, I can show you a non-white kid who also gets no discipline.
Also, parents in denial as to 'how much of an angel their child is'... Is nothing new. It's been around for longer than I've been born.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

As someone who is around 60+ kids daily.
Trying to say x race is too lax with discipline is complete nonsense.
For every white kid that gets little to no discipline at home, I can show you a non-white kid who also gets no discipline.
Also, parents in denial as to 'how much of an angel their child is'... Is nothing new. It's been around for longer than I've been born.

Exhibit A.

 

[Orion Bailey]

As someone who is around 60+ kids daily.
Trying to say x race is too lax with discipline is complete nonsense.
For every white kid that gets little to no discipline at home, I can show you a non-white kid who also gets no discipline.
Also, parents in denial as to 'how much of an angel their child is'... Is nothing new. It's been around for longer than I've been born.

I have no doubts that there are non whites with no discipline, but I doubt you are going to prove them as a 1 to 1 ratio. I mean Whats the percentage of whites in America again, vs any other race?

Per capita, it may be equal to, but the sheer numbers of the Whites would undoubtedly mean that there are more.

Also, Whites don't have to be poor to neglect their kids. I know plenty of well to do, or middle class parents who tell their kids to go play video games to get them out of their hair.

 

[H.C.]

Exhibit A.

Kid I've shared stories of the discipline I've received on this forum.
You know where my grandfather would smack me around if I threw a tantrum.
You're ignorant if you don't listen to those who are around kids every day.

I have no doubts that there are non whites with no discipline, but I doubt you are going to prove them as a 1 to 1 ratio. I mean Whats the percentage of whites in America again, vs any other race?

Per capita, it may be equal to, but the sheer numbers of the Whites would undoubtedly mean that there are more.

Also, Whites don't have to be poor to neglect their kids. I know plenty of well to do, or middle class parents who tell their kids to go play video games to get them out of their hair.

Not all white kids are undisciplined like @EL PRESIDENTE assumed.
There are white, black/native american/latino/etc kids who listen, are respectful and behave.
But for every white kid that does act like a spoiled brat, there is a non-white kid who acts like a spoiled brat.
It's not about %, and I'm not talking about across america.
I'm talking about personal experience because I'm around 60+ kids EVERY DAY. And in my experience there are just as many bratty/neglected non-white children as white children.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Kid I've shared stories of the discipline I've received on this forum.
You know where my grandfather would smack me around if I threw a tantrum.
You're ignorant if you don't listen to those who are around kids every day.



Not all white kids are undisciplined like @EL PRESIDENTE assumed.
There are white, black/native american/latino/etc kids who listen, are respectful and behave.
But for every white kid that does act like a spoiled brat, there is a non-white kid who acts like a spoiled brat.
It's not about %, and I'm not talking about across america.
I'm talking about personal experience because I'm around 60+ kids EVERY DAY. And in my experience there are just as many bratty/neglected non-white children as white children.

Common denominator is children.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Kid I've shared stories of the discipline I've received on this forum.
You know where my grandfather would smack me around if I threw a tantrum.
You're ignorant if you don't listen to those who are around kids every day.



Not all white kids are undisciplined like @EL PRESIDENTE assumed.
There are white, black/native american/latino/etc kids who listen, are respectful and behave.
But for every white kid that does act like a spoiled brat, there is a non-white kid who acts like a spoiled brat.
It's not about %, and I'm not talking about across america.
I'm talking about personal experience because I'm around 60+ kids EVERY DAY. And in my experience there are just as many bratty/neglected non-white children as white children.

Well, I'm glad there are only 60+ kids in the United States then.

You can say the same about gun owners. But the few nutjobs ruin it all.

Alot of these mass shooters are white kids with some sort of mental disorder or autism spectrum disorder. There's a reason they have been going unchecked. There's a reason they are allowed to own guns or have guns. In many cases the parents are ignorant or unwilling to put their kids in check.

It comes down to the way many whites raise their children. A lot of them do not instill any respect for their elders. White kids can blow up at their parents and get away with it. They can call other adults by their first name instead of calling them "Mr. X".

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Kid I've shared stories of the discipline I've received on this forum.
You know where my grandfather would smack me around if I threw a tantrum.
You're ignorant if you don't listen to those who are around kids every day.



Not all white kids are undisciplined like @EL PRESIDENTE assumed.
There are white, black/native american/latino/etc kids who listen, are respectful and behave.
But for every white kid that does act like a spoiled brat, there is a non-white kid who acts like a spoiled brat.
It's not about %, and I'm not talking about across america.
I'm talking about personal experience because I'm around 60+ kids EVERY DAY. And in my experience there are just as many bratty/neglected non-white children as white children.

Every huge "rager" in high school is some white kid who's parents go out of town. You'll never go to a rager party at an asian, mexican or black kid's houses because they will get their ass fucking beat down. Hell, white parents supply alcohol for their kids parties. "I'd rather have them drink at home than in some strange park" is their BS excuse.

 

[H.C.]

Well, I'm glad there are only 60+ kids in the United States then.

Oh, okay so you know every kid in the US.

I'm not reading anything else you have to say.
Keep ignoring those who are around kids every day. Must be nice to have blinders on.
Goodbye.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Oh, okay so you know every kid in the US.

I'm not reading anything else you have to say.
Keep ignoring those who are around kids every day. Must be nice to have blinders on.
Goodbye.

I'm not the ones with blinders. What you are doing to me (ignoring) is what white parents due to their kids on a constant basis. And these lead to these nutjob white kids that shoot up the place and are able to get a cache of firearms.

But I'm sure the kids you are around are harmless, "just having some fun" and wouldn't do anything like that.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Kid I've shared stories of the discipline I've received on this forum.
You know where my grandfather would smack me around if I threw a tantrum.
You're ignorant if you don't listen to those who are around kids every day.



Not all white kids are undisciplined like @EL PRESIDENTE assumed.
There are white, black/native american/latino/etc kids who listen, are respectful and behave.
But for every white kid that does act like a spoiled brat, there is a non-white kid who acts like a spoiled brat.
It's not about %, and I'm not talking about across america.
I'm talking about personal experience because I'm around 60+ kids EVERY DAY. And in my experience there are just as many bratty/neglected non-white children as white children.

I didnt say all and im not sure he did eitther.

May I ask where are you around 60+ kids a day? Assume its as schuool but what is the location or general location?

 

[Natebishop3]

I haven't spent enough time around kids face to face, but I wonder if they're as fucking awful in person as they are online.

Not kidding, the level of toxic behavior in video games is so much worse than it was when I was that age. It's a huge problem in some of the most popular online games like League of Legends, Overwatch, and Counter Strike. They're just awful to each other. There were a few bullies when I was a kid, but for the most part people were nice. I never heard anyone tell another kid to kill themselves, but you'll hear/see that constantly in online gaming. They call each other autistic. They joke about Hitler and racism towards black people.

Was this always there lurking under the surface or is it a new behavior?

 

[RR7]

I haven't spent enough time around kids face to face, but I wonder if they're as fucking awful in person as they are online.

Not kidding, the level of toxic behavior in video games is so much worse than it was when I was that age. It's a huge problem in some of the most popular online games like League of Legends, Overwatch, and Counter Strike. They're just awful to each other. There were a few bullies when I was a kid, but for the most part people were nice. I never heard anyone tell another kid to kill themselves, but you'll hear/see that constantly in online gaming. They call each other autistic. They joke about Hitler and racism towards black people.

Was this always there lurking under the surface or is it a new behavior?

It seems like a cop out to just blame it on kids:

http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/school-walkouts.327388/

I mean, look at the stupidity and absurdness there.

Go back to school you lazy little shits

hypocritical spineless fucks

But their all fucking morons.

Bunch of cucks too scared to come take them. Want big daddy government to do your dirty work

Because liberal parroting cucks are crowd following cuck a doodle doos, that's why

Gonna clean the guns and fuck my own wife

This is one of the law abiding, level headed gun owners we definitely want more of. Unhinged fuck.

The reason you hear it online is because of the anonymity of it. Same reason when we were kids, we would make crank calls and say rude shit to people and think it was funny. But you would of course never say it to someone.

 

[Cippy91]

Just because women aren’t usually mass shooters you wanna act like they don’t do insane shit. Jesus Christ they are usually front and center on the crime shows killing their husbands and shit. I think posts like this is what hurts males. Trying to tell them that their masculinity is bad. It’s so bad now that guys can’t even try to court women without it being considered harassment. Sure you can put blame on your modern American family and the out of this world divorce rates. I’m sure it plays a part. Also a lot of parents are just fucked up in general. Black kids grow up usually without fathers, que inner city violence. So yeah, there is something there but I wouldn’t blame masculinity as a whole. I think that’s the progressive horse shit way to view things. Masculinity is what has fueled us for thousands of years and is quite important.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Oh and I guarantee if some friend ordered for me I'd barely notice. If he made a scene about it I'd probably say "thanks bitch" or something like that.

I'll also hold my wife's purse at the store and not be embarrassed. Guys are weird about that for some reason.

We are weird about a lot of things, like.. I like romcoms.. does that make me less of a man? No.

 

[Cippy91]

I think also the issue more so is that society keeps trying to demasculate and repress masculinity as a whole. I mean we have more boys and men that care about their looks now than ever before and I find that odd. A specific ideology has created this problem with boys and men in general but some think it’s a positive thing. It’s not. You’re teaching men how to be pussies. It’s that simple. This is the society we live in today. Compare men from the 60’s,70’s,80’s90’s and now. It’s kinda crazy.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

looks like they were raised by cucks. Seems like the problem is that the shooters AREN'T masculine enough. They are more feminine, low testosterone types, which is why they aren't really popular to begin with.

It seems like the "outdated" model of masculinity is probably less inducive for these shooters to cuck out and start slaughtering people.

 

[H.C.]

May I ask where are you around 60+ kids a day? Assume its as schuool but what is the location or general location?

Well, I live in Oregon so theres the general location.
Why.

Yeah, I'm done talking about the topic yesterday.
I know nothing about working on airplanes.
Therefore rather than make assumptions, I'd listen to airplane mechanics if they were sharing knowledge.
While the majority of people on this forum would tell the airplane mechanic they're a moron and don't know shit about airplane mechanics.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

looks like they were raised by cucks. Seems like the problem is that the shooters AREN'T masculine enough. They are more feminine, low testosterone types, which is why they aren't really popular to begin with.

It seems like the "outdated" model of masculinity is probably less inducive for these shooters to cuck out and start slaughtering people.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Damn Russians!

White parents then.

 

[Nate]

Well, I live in Oregon so theres the general location.
Why.

Yeah, I'm done talking about the topic yesterday.
I know nothing about working on airplanes.
Therefore rather than make assumptions, I'd listen to airplane mechanics if they were sharing knowledge.
While the majority of people on this forum would tell the airplane mechanic they're a moron and don't know shit about airplane mechanics.

Says the guy that doesn’t know shit about guns.

 

[RR7]

looks like they were raised by cucks. Seems like the problem is that the shooters AREN'T masculine enough. They are more feminine, low testosterone types, which is why they aren't really popular to begin with.

It seems like the "outdated" model of masculinity is probably less inducive for these shooters to cuck out and start slaughtering people.

I think the issue is when kids don't fit into the masculinity "norm" , they are bullied and ostracized for being different. Getting away from outdated thoughts of how people "should" be might help us out a bit. And help them out . The point of the article, that girls are celebrated for breaking societal norms, and boys are not.
Or, we can sit around calling everyone cucks.

 

[H.C.]

Says the guy that doesn’t know shit about guns.

Ladies and gentlemen may I have your attention please.
I have a very special person to introduce to you...
He's the one.
The only.
Neo of the Matrix.

He just pretended to die in the movie to fool the machine leader, when really he's actually immortal and won't succumb to mortal weapons.
He can dodge bullets, as well as stab everyone on the planet in the blink of an eye.
Neo ladies and gentlemen.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Well, I live in Oregon so theres the general location.
Why.

Yeah, I'm done talking about the topic yesterday.
I know nothing about working on airplanes.
Therefore rather than make assumptions, I'd listen to airplane mechanics if they were sharing knowledge.
While the majority of people on this forum would tell the airplane mechanic they're a moron and don't know shit about airplane mechanics.

Really??? I ask a question and you get all salty? I don't even know you. I was simply curious as to the ratio of whites vs minorities where you live.

Now that I know you live in Oregon, I know that you don't have the ratio of minorities to back up your claim.

Thanks for the salt though....