the call

[thedude9990]

do you guys think that the vince carter technical was fair during the spurs games. it was obiviously the factor in this game why the nets are losing( and are proabably gunna lose about 45 sec left) and its sorof obivios vince was gunna drop 50 and the nets were gunna proabably win. i think it was sordof unfair i think that the refs should of just let it go he really didnt do anything

 

[NJNetz]

it is true what they say bruce bowen is a dirty player. this isnt the first time. he has dont this a lot of times. i remember what he did to mike finley last year in a game. hes a dirty player, unlike rodman he gets away wit things. the nets were goin to win. that eject call was crap

 

[Beat]

Bruce Bowen didnt really do anything wrong. He was playin tough defense and got tangled up. I dont think vince carter should've been ejected but he did overreact.

 

[og15]

Didn't Bowen try to get under him with the foot again, he did it last year to Vince, that was what caused him to miss most of his time last season, the Bruce Bowen attack.

 

[Mr. J]

Actually both of them should have been ejected. Remember last year when Kurt Thomas got ejected for headbutting Josh Howard? Well both of them headbutted each other and they stayed.

This season Officials are RIDICULOUS

 

[durvasa]

Anytime Bruce Bowen does that, he should get a flagrant foul automatically. It's an obvious dirty, unnecessary physical play. You just can't let a defensive player do that.

 

[Bobcats]

He's done this to Carter (twice), Finley, Melo... who's next?

 

[P.A.P.]

Him and Vince go back 3-4 years...I don't care if the tangle up with the legs was intentional or not, Bowen should be ejected with Carter if they choose to eject VC. It's all Popvic's fault...he whispered "do something to stop Vince" in Bruce's ear before that play.

 

[Mr. J]

^what!?!?!?

 

[og15]

http://s17.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1KWUUQ0...473DP885VV90HEJ

Their's the incident, I think Bowen and Carter are good friends...

 

[Ma3oxuct]

I do not think that there is anything any ref can do to make Bowen cut that tip-step that he does. I have to admit that he does an extremly good job of acting.
He seems simply place his leg right where the player is going to land, but it seems so slight that you have to really train your eyes to it. I don't blame the refs.

I think that it is entirely unsportsmanlike conduct from Bowen: yes, it is his job to stop a player from scoring, but I do not think that it is at all fair for him to stop someone by injuring them or trying to make the oppenent scared of getting injured. I think that the only way to get some sense into Bowen is to have someone do the same exact thing to him and in effect injure him. I think that the league needs to take notice of Bowen's play and maybe make the ref aware of it, so that further injuries do not occur.

 

[kdub]

bowen undercutting him last year, and the trip this year, was obviously on purpose. No player (unless bowen is THAT dumb) will run his legs into someone's else legs while he is coming down, just to get up the floor.

And the leg slide from last year was so obvious. There is no reason why a person would need to stick his leg out that way (under vince), for the following action (turning his head).

that block on bowen by carter was NASTY. thanks og.

 

[AirJordan]

Hopefully this motivates Vince in any way.

 

[Mr. J]

The refs were being nice that game. Both of them should have been ejected!

 

[Beat]

I remeber last years. I guess i saw that at different angle or somethine Bowen is slick.

 

[bentalldayeveryday]

Bruce Bowen should be banned from the NBA if he keeps doing this on purpose. I don't understand how Vince got ejected when he did nothing wrong. The only call that should have been made was a technical and flagrant on Bowen and nothing on Vince.

 

[Mr. J]

Are you kidding? It's a rule that if you headbutt you're automatically ejected for doing that. They should both be suspended too!

 

[NJNetz]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">Are you kidding? It's a rule that if you headbutt you're automatically ejected for doing that. They should both be suspended too!</div>


vince carter didnt get ejected for a headbutt. that was just a technical. he got ejected for running at bowen and getting a second technical.

 

[NJNetz]

i was just wondering. u get ejected after getting two technicals rite? vince and bowen both got technicals for the head butt. then that other incident they also got both technicals, so why did vince only get ejected


<font color="Red">Please do not double post, next time use the Edit button located at the bottom of your post, thanks- Henacy</font>

 

[thedude9990]

they only gave a tech to vince at the end

 

[P.A.P.]

Bowen didn't get a T for the tangle up issue. He was playing Mr.Innocent, so he didn't receive a tech. I think he's trying to win an Oscar.

 

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting NbaBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">vince carter didnt get ejected for a headbutt. that was just a technical. he got ejected for running at bowen and getting a second technical.</div>
I know, I'm saying he should have when he headbutted Bowen.

I don't think Bowen got a technical after Carter charged after him.

 

[kdub]

maybe double technicals don't count towards an ejection?

 

[P.A.P.]

http://www.icb2.com/luis2k10/lakers/021105_Bruce-Carter.mpg

There's a download link for the Bruce-Vince whatever...It's live coverage too; about 4:15 m/s long.

 

[Ma3oxuct]

judging that the refs had time to think about it, I now change my position and say that they made the wrong desicion. To me it did not look like Carter wanted to fight, he just wanted to ask Bowen what was the matter with him doing that cheap leg thing.

 

[Mamba]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting xpehbamxyu:</div><div class="quote_post">judging that the refs had time to think about it, I now change my position and say that they made the wrong desicion. To me it did not look like Carter wanted to fight, he just wanted to ask Bowen what was the matter with him doing that cheap leg thing.</div>

I hope that is a joke man, Vince had his arms ready to go, he had his chest stuck out...he ran right up to him and stopped, the refs made the right move. Things would of escalated from their if they let the Vince stay in, Bowen would of gone at him again.

 

[NJNetz]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kobe 8 Ball:</div><div class="quote_post">I hope that is a joke man, Vince had his arms ready to go, he had his chest stuck out...he ran right up to him and stopped, the refs made the right move. Things would of escalated from their if they let the Vince stay in, Bowen would of gone at him again.</div>


i doubt he was going to swing at him. he was probably just goin to get in his face and that would be the end off it

 

[B.e.]

It was a dirty play, period. Bowen did the exact same thing to Carter last year, and I'm sure thats why Vince was furious this time around. I've heard from refs and coaches, that when boxing out a jump shooter you have to let him land first! Bruce Bowen clearly is defys this rule often and could get someone very hurt. Therefore he and anyone else who does this, should be given a shot foul and a technical free throw foul every time the player does it.

 

[Premium]

bowen is a dirty player...my least favorite player in the league. i think that thing he does is completely intentional, and obviously so does vince.

ray allen called bowen a dirty player before...when someone as respected as much as ray comes out and says it, i think there is some validity to it

if another player gets injured on that same kind of play with bowen, he should face some serious suspension time

 

[Karma]

It's riduculous how he plays, I think he is an excellent defensive player and it is one thign to stop your opponent's best scorer from scoring but to try to purposely try to injure them is blasphemous. David Stern turning his blind eye on this multiple times is agitating me. Somethign needs to be done, I'm glad many of you feel the same way and don't think that Bruce didn't do it accidently because its absolutely clear that he didn't. That was the exact reason the Raptors got screwed last year because the Raptors were rising like the Nets when Bruce Bowen injured Carter and Rose and Bosh also got injured in that same span, screwing yet another Raptor's season. Anyways, I'm glad Vince went after him. for once, I'd love to see Vince just kick his ass because he truly deserves it. Next time he's taking a jumpshot, someone should stick thier foot under his leg and hopefully he breaks his ankles. Yes, I wish that upon him for he has done it too many times. Just the thought of that makes me sick. How disgusting and low can you get? Someone could get seriously hurt over that, what the hell is he thinking.