The Case for Tobias Harris

[Rastapopoulos]

Here.

We had basketball analytics gurus Dr. Stephen Shea, a New Hampshire mathematics professor, on our Open Mike radio show a few months ago and he called Harris "the most underrated player in the NBA." In his blog on the website, "Basketball Analytics," Shea wrote that "Statistically, Harris stands among some of the game's biggest stars."

Shea said Harris stands among the best of the league's VFs (versatile forwards) -- frontcourt players who can shoot 3s, drive, rebound and defend.

Shea wrote in his blog last season, "Only six players averaged at least 15 points and 6 rebounds per game, while also shooting 35% (on at least two 3-point attempts per game.) Only six VFs met these minimum requirements."

Those players were LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Kevin Love, Chris Bosh, Paul Millsap and Harris, who averaged 17.1 points, 6.3 rebounds, 1.8 assists and shot 36 percent from beyond the arc last season.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I certainly wouldn't mind him with Monroe if lma doesn't return.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

He's certainly not asking for an "under the radar" contract.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

He's certainly not asking for an "under the radar" contract.

But that's why he's about the only RFA that could be gotten.

I'm actually agnostic on the guy. I honestly haven't watched him play much. But I like that he's multi-talented. Of course, so was the SF we just traded.

 

[ThugginPaulyGAllen]

We finally agree on something! Tobias would've been my #1 guy for this roster based on his age if LMA left.

 

[RipCityWarrior]

He should be target #1 if Aldridge leaves.

 

[Further]

I wish I watched him more. I've seen him play several times, but he ever stuck out to me, for good or bad. But reading up on him, sounds like a young, skilled and very versatile player with bucket loads of potential.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

If we do a Mini Max for Monroe and Toby, how much is left after that? Like 5MM? Enough to bring in another decent piece?

 

[Darkwebs]

Now that it's all but certain LMA is going to the Spurs, I think throwing a max offer at Harris would be a good move, assuming Monroe signs with us. We need as much talent as possible with Aldridge exiting, unless we plan to tank, which doesn't appear to be the case. There aren't any good, young SGs in free agency, so although we already have a SF that is a capable starter (Aminu), we should just go all in, assembling the best basketball team that the cap allows. Offering the max to Harris would be most likely way to pry away a young, talented player in FA. But in the end, I think the Magic will match.

 

[illmatic99]

Two combo forwards in Aminu and Harris. Definitely interesting

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[santeesioux]

This dude is looking better all the time.

 

[Scalma]

Do it

 

[TBpup]

Harris fits the Olshey MO. 25 or under and an advanced stats positive in a lot of areas. Does Neil have any previous connection with him? That seems to be the other part that is missing.

 

[B-Roy]

gary washburn‏@GwashburnGlobe 24h24 hours ago
Have been told the #Magic will not match a max offer to Tobias Harris, so the market value has been set. #Celtics

Might as well. Throw darts at the wall.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

Its interesting that no one has signed a RFA to a contract yet

 

[Chris Craig]

He'd probably rather stay in Orlando and play for Skiles.

 

[Scalma]

How about this: Jordan and Harris.

 

[Blazer Freak]

He'd probably rather stay in Orlando and play for Skiles.

Oh...you mean the Scott Skiles that threw him in the dog-house in MIL and then sent him to ORL for scraps?

 

[Chris Craig]

yeah that one

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Harris is a NY guy and was praying that they would give him max so that ORL wouldn't match. I not entirely sure he would even sign with us if we give him max. He is an East Coast guy through and through But some people just don't understand they can get a on a plane with that kind of money anytime they want...

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I doubt Neil has a plan C.

Flexibility

Flexibility

Flexibility

 

[santeesioux]

He's not a former Clipper though, that's a problem.

 

[illmatic99]

Why not? Not like we got any reason to save the money

 

[Haakzilla]

...at this point, getting Tobias Harris would be a crowning achievement for this roller-coaster of a free agency period. He is only 22 years old and has proven that "he got game"!

 

[BonesJones]

I doubt Neil has a plan C.

Flexibility

Flexibility

Flexibility

the flexibility to be able to get bent over backwards and raped

 

[Blazers Roy]

What on earth is going on in Olshey's mind?!?!
Why didn't he bag Harris already? He is the best thing we can get right now but Olshey is too busy signing all these unwanted role players.

Reasons to sign Harris:
1.Very young, but puts double digits and has more potential to grow.
2.Fits our system better than Monroe + can stretch the floor. He can be our athletic Draymond Green.
3.Pretty good defensively.
4.Giving a max deal for a 23yr old is not like giving a max deal to a 29 yr old, it's considerably lower and we can definitely take the financial hit.
5.Olshey lost all his assets and all he did was sign guys with question marks above their heads (=low trade value). Harris is a great trade asset down the line (think about the rising cap), This is a very Daryl Morey- type move (=the correct move).

Why isn't he chasing after Gerald Green as well? 12ppg for 19mpg is pretty awesome, Aaron Brooks was pretty good in Chicago and no one is chasing him (12ppg off the bench). Why are we in 100% tanking mode before a weak draft? Olshey thinks he can land a superstar for Aminu,Davis and a draft pick?

btw, i'm new to the forum. HowYodoin'? etc...

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

nice post newbie; it's still a little early out here on the west coast.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

Oh...you mean the Scott Skiles that threw him in the dog-house in MIL and then sent him to ORL for scraps?

Other RFA's have gotten paid big early this year. Thinking this has a lot to do with why Harris has not signed yet.

Reports are that Orlando would not match. I am not so sure. Even if they do not want him, his max contract at today's prices would be a steal in a couple of years. Would probably be better than anything they could do with that cap space.

 

[Blazers Roy]

nice post newbie; it's still a little early out here on the west coast.

But it's 4pm in Israel