The curious case of Neil Olshey

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I think Olshey has done alright. He hasn't had easy selections or moves to make.

I think this last team surprised he and PA with its record and 2nd round playoff berth.

This offseason is when he should be judged more accurately. He has some assets finally to make trades with. He improved the bench. I think CJ will still be a player.

Let's go!!
 
Mediocre Man said:
I think he has done an incredible job adding talent for pennies on the dollar. What I'm not sure about, partly due to his own words, is if those moves were better than even he thought they'd be.
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Well, don't we all hope that things we do turn out better than we had hoped? Olshey has made good moves. Getting a bit lucky is what often separates the good GMs from the great ones. I'm really hoping that Olshey makes more good moves this summer and that they turn out to better than hoped.
 
Harry's Raincoat said:
I think Olshey has done alright. He hasn't had easy selections or moves to make.

I think this last team surprised he and PA with its record and 2nd round playoff berth.

This offseason is when he should be judged more accurately. He has some assets finally to make trades with. He improved the bench. I think CJ will still be a player.

Let's go!!
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I think this is spot on. Repped.
 
e_blazer said:
Well, don't we all hope that things we do turn out better than we had hoped? Olshey has made good moves. Getting a bit lucky is what often separates the good GMs from the great ones. I'm really hoping that Olshey makes more good moves this summer and that they turn out to better than hoped.
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I'm quite sure that John Paxson thought he was making a great move trading LMA for Tyrus Thomas. The Blazers have improved dramatically under Olshey. How could he be considered anything other than a great hire at this point of this Portland era?
 
PapaG said:
I'm quite sure that John Paxson thought he was making a great move trading LMA for Tyrus Thomas. The Blazers have improved dramatically under Olshey. How could he be considered anything other than a great hire at this point of this Portland era?
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He's the best GM we've had in a long time. He might even be better than Whitsitt, but I guess we'll see.
 
The great Bob Whitsitt was Portland GM for 9 years and Seattle GM for about 8. Comparing 2-3 years of Olshey to a diamond like Bob Whitsitt is like comparing filé mignon to a leaky can with a sardine in it.
 
jlprk said:
The great Bob Whitsitt was Portland GM for 9 years and Seattle GM for about 8. Comparing 2-3 years of Olshey to a diamond like Bob Whitsitt is like comparing filé mignon to a leaky can with a sardine in it.
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The great Bob Whitsitt won zero NBA titles and never got an NBA job after the Vulcans fired him for throwing the Rose Garden into bankruptcy.
 
PapaG said:
I'm quite sure that John Paxson thought he was making a great move trading LMA for Tyrus Thomas. The Blazers have improved dramatically under Olshey. How could he be considered anything other than a great hire at this point of this Portland era?
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I completely agree. Did you think I meant something other than that?
 
e_blazer said:
I completely agree. Did you think I meant something other than that?
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When Papa is full of biting sarcasm, at least you know where he is. It's when he disappears to find new outrages that you have to start looking over your shoulder.
 
jlprk said:
The great Bob Whitsitt was Portland GM for 9 years and Seattle GM for about 8. Comparing 2-3 years of Olshey to a diamond like Bob Whitsitt is like comparing filé mignon to a leaky can with a sardine in it.
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Yep, I agree completely. It's way too early to speculate how much better Olshey is than Whitsitt. Whitsitt's teams didn't win 50 games until his sixth season in Portland and didn't make it past the first round of the playoffs until his 5th season. Olshey accomplished both of those things is his second season as Portland's GM. Let's see what he can accomplish with 7 more years at the helm before we start comparing him to an overspending underachiever like Whitsitt.

BNM
 
jlprk said:
The great Bob Whitsitt was Portland GM for 9 years and Seattle GM for about 8. Comparing 2-3 years of Olshey to a diamond like Bob Whitsitt is like comparing filé mignon to a leaky can with a sardine in it.
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You and your Whitsitt :)
 
PapaG said:
The great Bob Whitsitt won zero NBA titles and never got an NBA job after the Vulcans fired him for throwing the Rose Garden into bankruptcy.
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That was actually a Steve Patterson decision. Perhaps he didn't have a choice.

I think every GM they have had and the moves that were made is/was more of a reflection of Paul Allen at the time. Paul deserves just as much credit for the organization losing as much money as they did as Bob.

He's been through many different personality changes since the dawn of his ownership. And I think it's due more to Jody and Vulcan.
 
Why when I click on some of the threads it tells me that the webpage has a redirect loop?
 
OneLifeToLive said:
That was actually a Steve Patterson decision. Perhaps he didn't have a choice.

I think every GM they have had and the moves that were made is/was more of a reflection of Paul Allen at the time. Paul deserves just as much credit for the organization losing as much money as they did as Bob.

He's been through many different personality changes since the dawn of his ownership. And I think it's due more to Jody and Vulcan.
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Whitsitt's insane level of spending without even making an NBA Finals played a large role in making the arena unprofitable. Patterson's poor drafting and general paranoia didn't help the situation, but he was hired as a hatchet man, as is evident after he fired dozens of employees within his first few weeks on the job.
 
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Mediocre Man said:
I think he has done an incredible job adding talent for pennies on the dollar. What I'm not sure about, partly due to his own words, is if those moves were better than even he thought they'd be.
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Yeah, the deal for Robin Lopez was a steal when reflecting on it now. I wasn't expecting RoLo to do as well as he did for our team this season. I was pleasantly surprised with the work horse! He's now one of my favorite players on the team.
 
I got a dollar today from Uncle!
 
Hobbesarable said:
Yeah, the deal for Robin Lopez was a steal when reflecting on it now. I wasn't expecting RoLo to do as well as he did for our team this season. I was pleasantly surprised with the work horse! He's now one of my favorite players on the team.
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I didn't have a complete background of Rolo's work, but he was on my fantasy team the year before when he was with N.O. I saw what he could do while paying attention to him for an entire year and knew he could be something more. We have some holes to plug, most definitely, but I am more than comfortable with Rolo being our starting center next year. He is a workhorse, and could still get better, not only at the game of basketball, but also as someone who knows our system and knows how to help out even a little more. Cheers.
 
Lopez looks good because we're comparing him to that non-rebounding, non-defending, weak-ass Aldridge, who would make even Joel Przybilla look great if we had him. Oh yeah, we did.
 
only three players remain from the 28 win 2011-12 season, the year before NO's signing. aside from LA, wes and nic, the players on last years team were signed or traded for or drafted by NO. freeland and claver were picked by another regime but signed by NO his first summer. this is his team and if you look at what he had for assets to assemble the current roster including 2 late lottery picks that are so far not truly contributing,i think he has done a pretty remarkable job. this years 1st rounder was traded before he arrived so the judging of his drafting is incomplete. I personally believe that the development of picks deserves at least another season or three. last season was a vast improvement considering what he has had to work with in the begining and the results that this team has produced.
 
Watched the ESPN 30 for 30 Film Bad Boys last night: Film really opened my eye to just how difficult it is to build a winning team.
It too Detroit, what, six or seven years to put together that team. We are only on year two, give Oshey some credit and some leeway.
We are still in diapers here in Portland.
 
jlprk said:
Lopez looks good because we're comparing him to that non-rebounding, non-defending, weak-ass Aldridge, who would make even Joel Przybilla look great if we had him. Oh yeah, we did.
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While I don't totally agree with your analysis of LA, along those lines, Hickson made Rolo look like an all star to Blazer fans this year.

Opps . . . you're Hickson fan if I recall right.

(thought I would push your buttons on the whole Lebron steroid conspiracy, but no response)
 
LeBron doesn't push my buttons either way, so I don't think about him. Hickson, despite his faults, put on a clinic every game, if you look only at effort. The side-by-side effort comparison with Aldridge put Aldridge to shame.

For that reason, I sure want to keep Lopez.
 
jlprk said:
LeBron doesn't push my buttons either way, so I don't think about him. Hickson, despite his faults, put on a clinic every game, if you look only at effort. The side-by-side effort comparison with Aldridge put Aldridge to shame.

For that reason, I sure want to keep Lopez.
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Thomas Robinson is the new, better JJ Hickson.
 
LaMarcus destroyed Hickson when we played Denver this season, I don't get the comparison jlprk.
 
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