Funny The Democrat front runner conducting foreign relations.

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No, just the countries that were colluding with the Obama Administration to rig our election.

lol, and now come the tin foil hat support. They weren't colluding, they are called allies. Something trump doesn't seem to think is important and would rather cozy up to dictators. Why is that maris?
 
lol, and now come the tin foil hat support. They weren't colluding, they are called allies. Something trump doesn't seem to think is important and would rather cozy up to dictators. Why is that maris?

5 bucks says he brings up the "disproved Steele dossier".

I just realized we should play Maris Bingo.

Tho, we'd all lose by winning.
 

Great tweet but the parallel doesn’t quite hold true in this instance. In this case you’ve got fans of one cockroach infested restaurant calling out another cockroach infested restaurant for having cockroaches. I’m simply trying to not be in either camp right now but point out completely obvious things. Cockroaches are bad period let’s get rid of them.
 
Actually, you have that in both scenarios, considering the family connection.

He’s running for that office and needs to be scrutinized as such, same as Trump.

thats not what I’m saying. I’m commenting on the clear lack of scrutiny about Biden. Trump isn’t free of criticism in this matter by any means, but somebody has to recognize the hypocrisy and not see it as a one sided issue.

Police: "Ted Bundy is a murderer"
Bundy: "Those people I murdered were all murderers themselves"
jonnyboy: "You have to look at both sides here, Ted says they were murderers, so they deserved what they got."

barfo
 
Great tweet but the parallel doesn’t quite hold true in this instance. In this case you’ve got fans of one cockroach infested restaurant calling out another cockroach infested restaurant for having cockroaches. I’m simply trying to not be in either camp right now but point out completely obvious things. Cockroaches are bad period let’s get rid of them.

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It's so false, and it's exactly the line of defense that is being sold by the guilty. "Everybody is dirty, so what does it matter?"

If you care at all about eliminating corruption, it's counter-productive to shrug and say everyone does it. Prosecute and vote out those that are actually found to be corrupt (from either party).

barfo
No its not, and I never said everyone's guilty and I do care about eliminating corruption and I have always favored prosecute those that are corrupt form any party. So don't be so quick to judge someone because believe it or not you may interpret something incorrectly which you did in this case.
My position has always been weed out corruption where ever it exist.
 
No its not, and I never said everyone's guilty and I do care about eliminating corruption and I have always favored prosecute those that are corrupt form any party. So don't be so quick to judge someone because believe it or not you may interpret something incorrectly which you did in this case.
My position has always been weed out corruption where ever it exist.

If they are all (or most) are corrupt, where do you start? The low hanging fruit or the top of the tree running the country? I say you start at the top and move down.
 
If they are all (or most) are corrupt, where do you start? The low hanging fruit or the top of the tree running the country? I say you start at the top and move down.
See...I never said all or most, what I commented on was go after corruption and sure Ive always felt things should start at the top. I do believe if they get Trump and at the same time find corruption elsewhere, we cannot turn a blind eye to that.
By all means go after the low hanging fruit. And Im a firm believer in following the money too.
 
See...I never said all or most, what I commented on was go after corruption and sure Ive always felt things should start at the top. I do believe if they get Trump and at the same time find corruption elsewhere, we cannot turn a blind eye to that.
By all means go after the low hanging fruit. And Im a firm believer in following the money too.

So you agree then the concentrated effort should be on trump first then? There is no need to put too much emphasis on the low hanging fruit until the top of the tree is cut down?
 
It's all super confusing to me. It seems Biden Sr. and Trump had effectively the same types of calls with Ukraine.

Except that Biden was doing the people's business, and Trump was doing his own business. That's the difference.

barfo
 
So you agree then the concentrated effort should be on trump first then? There is no need to put too much emphasis on the low hanging fruit until the top of the tree is cut down?

I think this metaphor needs some work.

barfo
 
Except that Biden was doing the people's business, and Trump was doing his own business. That's the difference.

barfo

I get that. We shall see.
 
I think this metaphor needs some work.

barfo

how about this one. If you were in a fishing derby for largest bass, would you go to the area that is known for bigger bass or a fishing hole that is known for smaller bass? Metaphorically speaking that is. :bgrin:
 
so then you understand that the comparison isn't equal?

I understand that I don't 100% arbitrarily trust any politician....and that we shall see how this all pans out. I understand, as well. that I have to trust the processes/procedures that our government has in place.

Again, we shall see.
 
I understand that I don't 100% arbitrarily trust any politician....and that we shall see how this all pans out. I understand, as well. that I have to trust the processes/procedures that our government has in place.

Again, we shall see.

Taken right out of the trump playbook except you didn't precede it with the "maybe they will, and maybe they won't" when it comes to making a deal, lol

Your answer was also one that trump would be proud of as never commit to anything. Like a true politician. Maybe you should run for office.

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So you agree then the concentrated effort should be on trump first then? There is no need to put too much emphasis on the low hanging fruit until the top of the tree is cut down?
Trump has been under investigation for and Im assuming if they got the goods on him he will be prosecuted.
If someone else is found to be committing crimes along the way they too she be investigated, as thats what the FBI does.
I think now days with the micros copes out there and so many people being investigated and reported on, we will see things be exposed for what they are.
 
Trump has been under investigation for and Im assuming if they got the goods on him he will be prosecuted.
If someone else is found to be committing crimes along the way they too she be investigated, as thats what the FBI does.
I think now days with the micros copes out there and so many people being investigated and reported on, we will see things be exposed for what they are.

according to the republicans trump can't be prosecuted while a sitting president. Only recourse is impeachment. It's the typical trump ploy to distract, deflect and dodge the truth and thus the reason they are trying to muddy it up with a Biden investigation (which was already investigated and found no wrong doing) as well as Clinton's emails (which also have been investigated and found no criminal wrong doing). Only thing missing is investigating Benghazi again (which coincidentally was investigated and didn't find any criminal wrong doing). Let's get this trump shit out of the way and then move on to whatever else might crop up.
 
according to the republicans trump can't be prosecuted while a sitting president. Only recourse is impeachment. It's the typical trump ploy to distract, deflect and dodge the truth and thus the reason they are trying to muddy it up with a Biden investigation (which was already investigated and found no wrong doing) as well as Clinton's emails (which also have been investigated and found no criminal wrong doing). Only thing missing is investigating Benghazi again (which coincidentally was investigated and didn't find any criminal wrong doing). Let's get this trump shit out of the way and then move on to whatever else might crop up.
The bigger they are the harder they fall.
Clinton skated where others wouldn't have.
The Biden, Son, Billions, Ukraine, China seems squirrelly to me. That doesn't sound shaky to you?
I also thought Cheney was crook and on the take.
A precedent needs to be set for sure and now days with all the scrutiny of those in public service hopefully that will help to.
When those in high places that commit crimes why should they be treated any differently than you and I.
 
The bigger they are the harder they fall.
Clinton skated where others wouldn't have.
The Biden, Son, Billions, Ukraine, China seems squirrelly to me. That doesn't sound shaky to you?
I also thought Cheney was crook and on the take.
A precedent needs to be set for sure and now days with all the scrutiny of those in public service hopefully that will help to.
When those in high places that commit crimes why should they be treated any differently than you and I.

Right now, I am only concerned about one crook and that's trump. All the others seem to be a lot of allegations but not much substance as of now. You seem to buy into all the stories that trump and rudy g have thrown out, but not much proof. It's what they do HG. There is plenty of info regarding trump and his bullshit. He simply dodges and deflects. All I see is trump lying and republicans continuing to enable him with more lies and all the stonewalling going on. I'm not anti republican, but I am anti trump. He is a bad president and more people need to realize that and back the investigations.
 
The bigger they are the harder they fall.
Clinton skated where others wouldn't have.

Not sure that's true. What was her crime again? Using personal emails to do government business? Multiple Trump officials are doing that today, including Ivanka. Not that that makes it at all ok, I'm just refuting the 'others wouldn't have' part of your message.

The Biden, Son, Billions, Ukraine, China seems squirrelly to me. That doesn't sound shaky to you?

No. There's no evidence of wrongdoing, just crazy-ass easily debunked accusations from Trump's camp.

If I tell you that SlyPokerDog eats babies, are you going to think he sounds pretty squirrelly? Or would you maybe consider that my accusation has zero merit?

I also thought Cheney was crook and on the take.

I thought so too, at the time, but I have not seen any concrete evidence after all these years, so I'm going to have to give him a pass.

barfo
 
Taken right out of the trump playbook except you didn't precede it with the "maybe they will, and maybe they won't" when it comes to making a deal, lol

Your answer was also one that trump would be proud of as never commit to anything. Like a true politician. Maybe you should run for office.

:dunno:

We've never been closer.
 
Difference in opinion, not fact.

The facts as we currently know them support that. Maybe there are facts yet to be discovered that would change the situation, but then that's true of everything.

barfo
 
Difference in opinion, not fact.

what "facts" do you have as you seem to have tossed out allegations against Biden.

Your honor, Jonnyboy calls his first witness against Joe Biden, Mr. Rudy Giulani :biglaugh:
 
what "facts" do you have
A video of Joe Biden saying he was going to withhold a billion dollars from Ukraine if they didn’t fire their prosecutor, then going on to say that they actually did it. That type of ultimatum is a clear bribe.
 

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