Science the end of the flu

[lawai'a]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-46078989
potential game changer in the hunt for cures to the flu virus. maybe no more pandemics like the flu viruses so popular in apocalyptic dystopian stories. for me that is the only downside. economic impacts of the flu viruses every year are staggering in lost worker productivity and days lost. that doesn't even consider doctor visits and even deathes to the young and elderly every year. be nice to no longer associate the nba season with the flu season. maybe even a game changer for portland free agent recruiting as rainy wet weather will no longer be a cause for catching the flu. i know, not going to happen. we catch the flu here in paradise too. so many people, from so many places, sharing their "bugs". could change though.

 

[Hoopguru]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-46078989
potential game changer in the hunt for cures to the flu virus. maybe no more pandemics like the flu viruses so popular in apocalyptic dystopian stories. for me that is the only downside. economic impacts of the flu viruses every year are staggering in lost worker productivity and days lost. that doesn't even consider doctor visits and even deathes to the young and elderly every year. be nice to no longer associate the nba season with the flu season. maybe even a game changer for portland free agent recruiting as rainy wet weather will no longer be a cause for catching the flu. i know, not going to happen. we catch the flu here in paradise too. so many people, from so many places, sharing their "bugs". could change though.

hey man where are you at in Paradise?

 

[lawai'a]

hey man where are you at in Paradise?

kailua kona

 

[e_blazer]

Boy, that would be awesome if this research pays off with a viable broad-spectrum vaccine. Maybe they can apply the same technique to the common cold if this works.

I've always been a bit curious as to whether people living in the islands have a lesser amount of cold and flu due to not being as confined to enclosed spaces in the winter months. Any insight on that lawai'a?

 

[Lanny]

kailua kona

Hey, my wife and I have been there. We stayed in some sort of time share that was really nice.
Tried to get to the top of Mount Mauna Kea to see the Keck but our all wheel drive couldn't make it to the top.
Tropical fruit trees everywhere. I ate papaya with fresh squeezed lemon juice on top until I couldn't eat any more.
Met a guy there that was the trainer for the Hawaiian Iron Man team. Watched them from a shopping center where I sat and drank iced coffee while looking out onto a bay where they were all swimming.
Had a great time. Would love to go back except now I need to go to the hospital about four times a week. I suppose they have a VA hospital there on Oahu but the arrangements would be tricky.

Edit: ps Had a couple Hawaiian buddies in the Army. Nicest guys you ever met. Also, went to high school with a terrific young lady who moved to Hawaii years and years ago. Wish I could look all of them up. Sorry to ramble on but I really liked those three.

 

[lawai'a]

Boy, that would be awesome if this research pays off with a viable broad-spectrum vaccine. Maybe they can apply the same technique to the common cold if this works.

I've always been a bit curious as to whether people living in the islands have a lesser amount of cold and flu due to not being as confined to enclosed spaces in the winter months. Any insight on that lawai'a?

with tourism as our leading economic industry, you can imagine the folks coming and going. most are cooped up on an airliner's recirculating air systems, sitting in close proximity to one another for the 5+ hour flight before landing. whenever locals fly during flu season many will complain about catching a flu bug during the season. now imagine the numbers of tourists that accompanied them on their flights are now out and about, traveling and dining out and being waited on at their destinations. are we less inclined to get sick? i don't think so, besides all the tourists with colds and flu, my grand kids hygiene at school leaves something to be desired, and the kids share everything. if anything i am a little more circumspect in avoidance and hand washing than i ever was in oregon or alaska and i still catch colds, seems like one a year. if anything, i might argue that the worst affects are shorter, though that could be directly related to how much nicer it is outdoors to being inside here.besides the hawaiians live for the weekend, pau hana, work done, and if anything are way more "busy" on time off from work. paradise beckons. i fish at least one day a weekend and often 2. no cold will keep me from this,LOL.

 

[lawai'a]

during the dengue fever outbreak a couple of years ago here on the big island, the ground zero vector/person was reported to be a tourist, and our mosquitoes did the rest.

Boy, that would be awesome if this research pays off with a viable broad-spectrum vaccine. Maybe they can apply the same technique to the common cold if this works.

I've always been a bit curious as to whether people living in the islands have a lesser amount of cold and flu due to not being as confined to enclosed spaces in the winter months. Any insight on that lawai'a?

 

[Hoopguru]

kailua kona

Sweet! I had the islands as my part of my territory for years and Hawaii is a special place for my wife and I.
Love kailua kona!

 

[lawai'a]

Sweet! I had the islands as my part of my territory for years and Hawaii is a special place for my wife and I.
Love kailua kona!

us too, though kona town is only recently our home, having bought our place 2 years ago. previously we have lived south kona district working for one of the ranches of the region, in ho'okena.

 

[MARIS61]

Nearly every strain of flu existing today was created by the misguided idea that it can be prevented or eliminated by vaccination.

 

[lawai'a]

Nearly every strain of flu existing today was created by the misguided idea that it can be prevented or eliminated by vaccination.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/05/the-deadly-diseases-being-released-by-climate-change/
http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20170504-there-are-diseases-hidden-in-ice-and-they-are-waking-up
couple of zombie viruses articles for you.
might be a conspiracy here somewhere.

 

[lawai'a]

Hey, my wife and I have been there. We stayed in some sort of time share that was really nice.
Tried to get to the top of Mount Mauna Kea to see the Keck but our all wheel drive couldn't make it to the top.
Tropical fruit trees everywhere. I ate papaya with fresh squeezed lemon juice on top until I couldn't eat any more.
Met a guy there that was the trainer for the Hawaiian Iron Man team. Watched them from a shopping center where I sat and drank iced coffee while looking out onto a bay where they were all swimming.
Had a great time. Would love to go back except now I need to go to the hospital about four times a week. I suppose they have a VA hospital there on Oahu but the arrangements would be tricky.

Edit: ps Had a couple Hawaiian buddies in the Army. Nicest guys you ever met. Also, went to high school with a terrific young lady who moved to Hawaii years and years ago. Wish I could look all of them up. Sorry to ramble on but I really liked those three.

Tripler is the army med center my big island vet friends go for any testing or procedures not available locally. my friend big john says their care is "decent". waiting for the voucher red tape for the flight there, not so much.
mango is my favorite fruit here.
iron man just ended for another year here. it is a nice shot in the arm for the service industry, but is hell on traffic.

 

[e_blazer]

during the dengue fever outbreak a couple of years ago here on the big island, the ground zero vector/person was reported to be a tourist, and our mosquitoes did the rest.

Hey, there's no dengue in Oregon so don't be getting any ideas about blocking us northwest haoles from coming for a visit. It would be cruel and unusual punishment to make us stay here under the rain clouds all winter.

 

[e_blazer]

Nearly every strain of flu existing today was created by the misguided idea that it can be prevented or eliminated by vaccination.

You are an interesting individual, MARIS61.

 

[e_blazer]

with tourism as our leading economic industry, you can imagine the folks coming and going. most are cooped up on an airliner's recirculating air systems, sitting in close proximity to one another for the 5+ hour flight before landing. whenever locals fly during flu season many will complain about catching a flu bug during the season. now imagine the numbers of tourists that accompanied them on their flights are now out and about, traveling and dining out and being waited on at their destinations. are we less inclined to get sick? i don't think so, besides all the tourists with colds and flu, my grand kids hygiene at school leaves something to be desired, and the kids share everything. if anything i am a little more circumspect in avoidance and hand washing than i ever was in oregon or alaska and i still catch colds, seems like one a year. if anything, i might argue that the worst affects are shorter, though that could be directly related to how much nicer it is outdoors to being inside here.besides the hawaiians live for the weekend, pau hana, work done, and if anything are way more "busy" on time off from work. paradise beckons. i fish at least one day a weekend and often 2. no cold will keep me from this,LOL.

Well, crap! There goes that notion of paradise.

 

[Lanny]

during the dengue fever outbreak a couple of years ago here on the big island, the ground zero vector/person was reported to be a tourist, and our mosquitoes did the rest.

Was the tourist an illegal who brought some of all those terrible diseases to our country?

 

[Lanny]

us too, though kona town is only recently our home, having bought our place 2 years ago. previously we have lived south kona district working for one of the ranches of the region, in ho'okena.

Was that part of the old King ranch?

 

[lawai'a]

Hey, there's no dengue in Oregon so don't be getting any ideas about blocking us northwest haoles from coming for a visit. It would be cruel and unusual punishment to make us stay here under the rain clouds all winter.

then you won't likely be labeled a vector and spend the vacation in quarantine! nice!
as i have told any who ask, all are welcome.

 

[lawai'a]

Was the tourist an illegal who brought some of all those terrible diseases to our country?

no, was an asian national, won't even tell you which country.

 

[lawai'a]

Was that part of the old King ranch?

part of the original mccandles lands, since broken into several smaller holdings. if 6,000 acres is at all small. james mccandles was the first person to pull chains to survey the islands for king kamehameha and was allotted a HUGE grant throughout the islands for his efforts.

 

[Lanny]

with tourism as our leading economic industry, you can imagine the folks coming and going. most are cooped up on an airliner's recirculating air systems, sitting in close proximity to one another for the 5+ hour flight before landing. whenever locals fly during flu season many will complain about catching a flu bug during the season. now imagine the numbers of tourists that accompanied them on their flights are now out and about, traveling and dining out and being waited on at their destinations. are we less inclined to get sick? i don't think so, besides all the tourists with colds and flu, my grand kids hygiene at school leaves something to be desired, and the kids share everything. if anything i am a little more circumspect in avoidance and hand washing than i ever was in oregon or alaska and i still catch colds, seems like one a year. if anything, i might argue that the worst affects are shorter, though that could be directly related to how much nicer it is outdoors to being inside here.besides the hawaiians live for the weekend, pau hana, work done, and if anything are way more "busy" on time off from work. paradise beckons. i fish at least one day a weekend and often 2. no cold will keep me from this,LOL.

I've gotten strep throat before from an airliner on route back from Korea to the United States. Sat in the very front row of a no smoking area where no one was supposed to smoke but they all came back there to stretch their legs and smoke anyhow. I could see the stewardess gave up on telling each one that came back there to smoke that they had to go to a different area of the plane to smoke. I inhaled a ton of stinky cigarette smoke. Somehow, got strep throat from it all.

One time while attending a class at a Junior College I had to use the restroom. As I was washing my hands a young kid flushed a toilet behind a closed stall door. He came walking out and headed out of the restroom without washing his hands. I said "Hey, come back here and wash your hands." To my surprise, he came back in and washed his hands. Good kid, probably erred because of his youth.

 

[Lanny]

no, was an asian national, won't even tell you which country.

Oh God, that probably means he was Korean. My wife's not going to like that.

 

[Lanny]

part of the original mccandles lands, since broken into several smaller holdings. if 6,000 acres is at all small. james mccandles was the first person to pull chains to survey the islands for king kamehameha and was allotted a HUGE grant throughout the islands for his efforts.

It was at one time the largest ranch in the United States, including Texas, and probably the largest in the world.

 

[lawai'a]

It was at one time the largest ranch in the United States, including Texas, and probably the largest in the world.

parker ranch up in kamuela/waimea is kind of related to the king ranch i believe through a marriage to one of the king's family daughters. don't quote me though.
edit as in hawaiian king.

 

[e_blazer]

then you won't likely be labeled a vector and spend the vacation in quarantine! nice!
as i have told any who ask, all are welcome.

Well, that's a relief.

I'm curious about the fishing. What's your usual fishing method? Shore or boat?

 

[Lanny]

Tripler is the army med center my big island vet friends go for any testing or procedures not available locally. my friend big john says their care is "decent". waiting for the voucher red tape for the flight there, not so much.
mango is my favorite fruit here.
iron man just ended for another year here. it is a nice shot in the arm for the service industry, but is hell on traffic.

The Iron Man trainer was one of the most interesting people I've ever met. He said he was going to quit being the trainer very soon because he really didn't know much about that and he only got into it because he wanted to keep the sport together in Hawaii. He lived on Kawaii. He was a homosexual who used to live in NYC with his partner. They were dying to get out of there and go somewhere nice so they picked Hawaii. As he told me how his partner died of something that I've forgotten about, I was really touched. They really cared about each other. Wish I could remember his name. I'd also like to see him again. No, no, not for that reason, oh people, people.

 

[lawai'a]

Well, that's a relief.

I'm curious about the fishing. What's your usual fishing method? Shore or boat?

boat, trolling mostly but not exclusively.

 

[lawai'a]

Well, that's a relief.

I'm curious about the fishing. What's your usual fishing method? Shore or boat?

 

[Lanny]

Tripler is the army med center my big island vet friends go for any testing or procedures not available locally. my friend big john says their care is "decent". waiting for the voucher red tape for the flight there, not so much.
mango is my favorite fruit here.
iron man just ended for another year here. it is a nice shot in the arm for the service industry, but is hell on traffic.

Oh, let me spill the beans. I need a dialysis unit in the hospital, so it's gotta be a full hospital. Also, I need a lot of supporting units.
Mango used to be my wife's favorite. She got some absolutely fantastic mangoes when she lived with her sister in the Philippines. She was a volunteer candy striper comforting Korean soldiers wounded in the Vietnam War. Her brother-in-law worked on an American military base as a contractor and a retired Major. She had many proposals for marriage from the Korean soldiers but she wasn't interested. What she found in me still amazes me. Anyhow, I told you guys she was very sweet.

 

[Lanny]

OMG, I want to do that.