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Going to be called One World Trade Center once again.

Thoughts?

I don't really care...Freedom Tower sounded teh ghey. One World Trade Center is bad too because it brings back the 9/11 attacks in memory.
 
I think it should be called "The Last Train to Clarksville", we'll have it be all fun and shit. It'll be great!
 
My opinion, they should just refer to it by the street address, e.g. 57 West Street or whatever. You don't want it to be any more of a magnet for further attacks than it already is. That's the one building in the USA where I wouldn't lease office space because of the risk of terrorist attacks. Although I'm sure it will get a lot of attention from the security agencies.

barfo
 
My opinion, they should just refer to it by the street address, e.g. 57 West Street or whatever. You don't want it to be any more of a magnet for further attacks than it already is. That's the one building in the USA where I wouldn't lease office space because of the risk of terrorist attacks. Although I'm sure it will get a lot of attention from the security agencies.

barfo

Yeah I'm sure it will be the safest non-government building in the world to be in but I would never want to enter it. Too much of a target and it really sticks out down at the far end of Manhattan.
 
They should have put both towers back up in exactly the same spot, just like before, only a little higher. It would have served nicely as an extended middle finger to the terrorists.
 
They should have put both towers back up in exactly the same spot, just like before, only a little higher. It would have served nicely as an extended middle finger to the terrorists.

...the "terrorists" don't really exist though :crazy:
 
They should have put both towers back up in exactly the same spot, just like before, only a little higher. It would have served nicely as an extended middle finger to the terrorists.

Because taunting terrorists is a really smart idea...

barfo
 
We're losing our freedom and becoming more dependent on our government, so losing the "Freedom Tower" seems logical. Plus, I'm guessing within a year we'll be negotiating with AQ and the Taliban, so the "Freedom Tower" name would also be embarrassing.
 
Because taunting terrorists is a really smart idea...

barfo

Killing them in Afghanistan and Iraq has seemed to be a more effective strategery since 9/11.
 
We're losing our freedom and becoming more dependent on our government, so losing the "Freedom Tower" seems logical. Plus, I'm guessing within a year we'll be negotiating with AQ and the Taliban, so the "Freedom Tower" name would also be embarrassing.

Perhaps we can name it the "Socialism Tower".

barfo
 
Plus, I'm guessing within a year we'll be negotiating with AQ and the Taliban, so the "Freedom Tower" name would also be embarrassing.

Beyond being embarrassing, I'm sure Al-Qaeda and/or the Taliban will want to name it themselves. So what's the point of such a temporary name?
 
I agree with you, in that I don't care what they call it either.

I care more about who actually demolished the towers, and how that event has been used to manipulate the public.
 
I agree with you, in that I don't care what they call it either.

I care more about who actually demolished the towers, and how that event has been used to manipulate the public.

Please elaborate. Did you lose co-workers who had to jump off of a Tower? How has their death been used to "manipulate" the public?
 
Because taunting terrorists is a really smart idea...
You're right. We should make friends with them, invite them over for Sunday dinner, let them plant bombs in our large buildings, etc. Yeah, that's the ticket! We all just need to "get along" and then the terrorists will be able to destroy us much more easily.
 
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You're right. We should make friends with them, invite them over for Sunday dinner, let them plant bombs in our large buildings, etc. Yeah, that's the ticket! We all just need to "get along" and then the terrorists will be able to destroy us much more easily.

Taunting them and inviting them to dinner are not the only two options.

barfo
 
Taunting them and inviting them to dinner are not the only two options.

What's the third option? ;)

Incidentally, I'm not sure if the current "war" on them counts as taunting or inviting to dinner, but I'm pretty sure it's one of the two, or both.
 
Please elaborate. Did you lose co-workers who had to jump off of a Tower? How has their death been used to "manipulate" the public?

It was used as the drum that was beat to get us into Iraq, pass the Patriot Act, and commit other assaults on our constitution. 9-11, 9-11, 9-11....how many times did we hear Bush repeat this in all his speeches.

Give up your civil liberties, because there are boogie men out to get you, that we need to protect you from. That's what 9-11 was all about, manipulation.
 
Taunting them and inviting them to dinner are not the only two options.
And putting the World Trade Center up just like it was would have been a great way to show our resolve against our enemies . . .
 
It was used as the drum that was beat to get us into Iraq, pass the Patriot Act, and commit other assaults on our constitution. 9-11, 9-11, 9-11....how many times did we hear Bush repeat this in all his speeches.

Give up your civil liberties, because there are boogie men out to get you, that we need to protect you from. That's what 9-11 was all about, manipulation.

Actually, 9/11 was about the murder of thousands of innocent people, several of whom were my friends.
 
Is there a long line of businesses eager to set up in the new building? I'd think that even gung-ho conservative business owners would have problems attracting employees who are willing to work at the site.

Who really wants aboard "Titanic 2: The REALLY Unsinkable Ship"?

I could be wrong, though. I hate tall buildings anyway. Just kind of creepy.

I think they shoulda just left it as a park. It's expensive real estate, I realize, but then a block of Central Park ain't cheap either.
 
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Actually, 9/11 was about the murder of thousands of innocent people, several of whom were my friends.

No disagreement there, thousands were murdered, and hundreds of thousands were murdered in Iraq. Human life is not important to those who planned the event. Power, manipulation and money is what they care about.
 
No disagreement there, thousands were murdered, and hundreds of thousands were murdered in Iraq. Human life is not important to those who planned the event. Power, manipulation and money is what they care about.

Okay, who in your mind planned the event?
 
Okay, who in your mind planned the event?

I don't really know everyone specifically. There are some big time power-players behind the scenes that have a tremendous amount of power over world events. Two of these families are the Rockefellers and the Rothchilds, two very powerful banking families. Also, I'd have to say Cheney hand a hand in it since he ordered the stand down of Norad, and Bush as well, since he ordered the FBI to stay off Bin Laden's tail before 9-11. They definitely did not want an investigation of 9-11. Isn't it telling that it took the victims family members a tremendous amount of effort and publicity to even get the 9-11 commission formed? Isn't it suspicious that Bush and Cheany would not testify under oath to the 9-11 commission, they could not be recorded, and they had to meet together.....talk about GUILTY!


Check out this interview of Aaron Russo. He's a former film producer who got into politics. I think he ran for president for the constitution party a few years ago. Anyway, he became a friend of Nick Rockefeller, and you can listen to what he says about that:
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By the way, you might be one to snicker at Aaron's opening statements, but you might want to read this first:

Here is the direct quote from David Rockefeller's book "Memoirs" pg. 405

For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as "internationalists" and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it. -David Rockefeller


Ok, here is is admitting it plainly in his book. This is substantianted by similar statements by any others, and by Professor Carol Quigley who was paid by the CFR to write a book about the CFR.
 
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