The future base of the GOP

[Fez Hammersticks]

Yearh, that's certainly why.

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[magnifier661]

What I take away from this thread is that instead of becoming introspective after this easy Democratic victory, Republicans think that the future base of the GOP is to continue the same old gimmick slogans against the majority of Americans. They keep getting little adrenaline rushes from their little attack-and-run phrasings that cannot be sustained in any practical reality.

For example, sure, you can kill everyone on Social Security or Medicare. But 10 years later, who will you kill then, to continue the military spending and historically low tax rates for the rich? Republicans always have temporary solutions, and can't even offer up any numbers for those gimmicks, out of fear the numbers won't balance, since they know they won't.

What a complete pile of shit statement. You sound as bad as right wing Christians; telling us we must live like they do. I thought you were more reasonable than this. I think you are allowing your emotions and bias opinions get the better of you.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

GOP admitting they are out of touch with America

In the aftermath of Barack Obama's victory over Mitt Romney in the presidential election, Newt Gingrich said it's time for the Republican party "to stop, take a deep breath and learn."

Gingrich reflected on the outcome of the contest during an appearance on NBC's "Today" on Monday.

The former House Speaker, who made a failed bid for the GOP presidential nomination earlier this year, said, "The president won an extraordinary victory. And the fact is we owe him the respect of trying to understand what they did and how they did it." He added, "But if you had said to me three weeks ago, Mitt Romney would get fewer votes than John McCain and it looks like he’ll be 2 million fewer, I would have been dumbfounded."

In a Politico op-ed published online on Monday, Gingrich wrote, "For the conservative movement and the Republican Party to succeed in the future (and while they are not identical the two are inextricably bound together) we will have to learn the lessons of 2012." He explained, "An intellectually honest and courageous Republican Party has nothing to fear from the current situation."

Asked on "Today" about what he wrote, Gingrich said, "The great thing about elections is they belong to the American people." He added, "I was wrong last week, as was virtually every major Republican analyst. And so, you have to stop and say to yourself, if I was that far off, what do I need to learn to better understand America?"

 

[MARIS61]

They have nobody electable. Not a single viable candidate for President in 2016.

They need a new face.

Someone with bold and new ideas. Someone like...

David Stern. (He's available)

 

[DaLincolnJones]

GOP admitting they are out of touch with America

In the aftermath of Barack Obama's victory over Mitt Romney in the presidential election, Newt Gingrich said it's time for the Republican party "to stop, take a deep breath and learn."

Gingrich reflected on the outcome of the contest during an appearance on NBC's "Today" on Monday.

The former House Speaker, who made a failed bid for the GOP presidential nomination earlier this year, said, "The president won an extraordinary victory. And the fact is we owe him the respect of trying to understand what they did and how they did it." He added, "But if you had said to me three weeks ago, Mitt Romney would get fewer votes than John McCain and it looks like he’ll be 2 million fewer, I would have been dumbfounded."

In a Politico op-ed published online on Monday, Gingrich wrote, "For the conservative movement and the Republican Party to succeed in the future (and while they are not identical the two are inextricably bound together) we will have to learn the lessons of 2012." He explained, "An intellectually honest and courageous Republican Party has nothing to fear from the current situation."

Asked on "Today" about what he wrote, Gingrich said, "The great thing about elections is they belong to the American people." He added, "I was wrong last week, as was virtually every major Republican analyst. And so, you have to stop and say to yourself, if I was that far off, what do I need to learn to better understand America?"

I have been listening to all the talking heads from both sides proclaiming what the GOP needs to do, who the need to "go after" and how they need to modify their ideals to get in step with "the people".

For the most part, these "experts" want conformation almost in lock step with the Dems. They paint the tea party as "bad" the lib party as "bad"...I dont believe that a one party, me and me also style is good for this country.

We are going to start to reap the poisoned harvest that the extreme left has sown. Their dislike for anything other than their opinion, reinforced by the media has them brioling to a frenzied state, and to hear them talk about right wing with such bile is becoming the norm.

There needs to be a party to stand up for the values this country was founded on, to hold us accountable, reduce spending. To take on issues that may not be popular, like illeagle immigration, states rights vs federal gov..to move away fom the nanny state..tere has to be checks and ballances

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Democrats in the US are many things, some of them bad... but they are not in any way Extreme Left.

Also, weren't Democrats whining about the lockstep Republicans in 2004? How Democrats are cats who all have special little pet peeves while Republicans all think alike like dogs with a pack mentality? I certainly remember that.

 

[magnifier661]

Democrats in the US are many things, some of them bad... but they are not in any way Extreme Left.

Also, weren't Democrats whining about the lockstep Republicans in 2004? How Democrats are cats who all have special little pet peeves while Republicans all think alike like dogs with a pack mentality? I certainly remember that.

I am going to have to disagree with you on this one.

Demographics of the United States

As of November 1, 2012 the United States had a total resident population of ... the Census Bureau's estimation for 2012, 50.4% of American children under the age 34 informality; entrepreneurial; anti-political, paleoliberal or left-wing attitudes;

 

[DaLincolnJones]

Democrats in the US are many things, some of them bad... but they are not in any way Extreme Left.

Also, weren't Democrats whining about the lockstep Republicans in 2004? How Democrats are cats who all have special little pet peeves while Republicans all think alike like dogs with a pack mentality? I certainly remember that.

hey Fez is not the extreme left, but look how he delights in being hatefull..very common, and the further left they are..well, you get the idea

 

[MickZagger]

To answer the question of this post. Its probably going to be one of Romney's 73 grandkids.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

They have nobody electable. Not a single viable candidate for President in 2016.

They need a new face.

Someone with bold and new ideas. Someone like...

David Stern. (He's available)

Its not that there is no one electable, its just there are more people who make less than $50k a year that are more likely to vote Obama than there are people who make over $50k a year (who are likely to vote Obama).

And with Obama's "success", this trend will likely continue...moreso if the illegals are granted amnesty.

 

[MickZagger]

Blame it on the immigrants!

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

low skilled, low paid, low education + bottom of the barrel for latin american countries...not surprising they usually are the poor working class here in America. In other words, future base of the democrats! :MARIS61:

 

[MickZagger]

Let's alienate the voting block even more, that'll win the ticket!!

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

it really doesn't matter to be honest. democrats will always win those who don't make a lot of money no matter what you do. GOP needs to stick to their guns....they may not win in a while though since incomes are down and will likely stay down . and if these illegals get amnestied...good night.

 

[MickZagger]

The Asian vote is primarily democrat. Techies are generally Democrat. Women are usually democrat. Fuck all these groups. We should just let the white man and elderly vote. That will solve all of our problems.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Yeah. Good for them, but the point is that the key demographic for democrats are those making under $50k a year. They are in huge numbers versus any of those other groups you made.

Almost 60% of the US make under $50k a year. Of that group, 60% vote Democrat.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

look at the trends. the trend in america is salaries going down...which should strengthen up the base. Add some amnestied illegals who, again, are low skilled and poorly educated outcasts of their original countries....and those making under $50k a year will skyrocket.

 

[MickZagger]

Yeah. Good for them, but the point is that the key demographic for democrats are those making under $50k a year. They are in huge numbers versus any of those other groups you made.

Almost 60% of the US make under $50k a year. Of that group, 60% vote Democrat.

What groups did we blame when Clinton got in office?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

H. Ross Perot. Took more of the wealthy vote.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Yeah. Good for them, but the point is that the key demographic for democrats are those making under $50k a year. They are in huge numbers versus any of those other groups you made.

Almost 60% of the US make under $50k a year. Of that group, 60% vote Democrat.

I don't understand the complaint. We live in a democracy. People who make under 50K are allowed to vote just like poeple who make over 50K. You seem to look down on people who make under 50K.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I don't understand the complaint. We live in a democracy. People who make under 50K are allowed to vote just like poeple who make over 50K. You seem to look down on people who make under 50K.

Not a complaint, but a reflection of why romney lost.

{Poasted via palm pilot}

 

[3RA1N1AC]

if you cater to a smaller percentage of americans, you should probably EXPECT to lose

 

[The_Lillard_King]

LAS VEGAS (AP) — Top Republicans meeting for the first time since Election Day say the party lost its bid to unseat President Barack Obama because nominee Mitt Romney did not respond to criticism strongly enough or outline a specific agenda with a broad appeal.

In conversations at the Republican Governors Association confab in Las Vegas, a half dozen party leaders predicted the GOP will lose again if it keeps running the same playbook based on platitudes in place of detailed policies. Instead, they asserted, the party needs to learn the lessons from its loss, respect voters' savvy and put forward an agenda that appeals beyond the while, male voters who are its base.


http://news.yahoo.com/top-republicans-romney-didnt-offer-specifics-080833236--election.html

 

[3RA1N1AC]

just dial back the whole abortion/gay issues and they have a better shot at independents

 

[magnifier661]

just dial back the whole abortion/gay issue and they have a better shot at independents

I actually think the biggest issue is to tune in to the Hispanic vote. Many Hispanics don't condone abortion or gay issues because of their "Catholic upbringing". If they restructure issues that cater to this demographic; then it's anybodies ballgame.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I actually think the biggest issue is to tune in to the Hispanic vote. Many Hispanics don't condone abortion or gay issues because of their "Catholic upbringing". If they restructure issues that cater to this demographic; then it's anybodies ballgame.

i think the dems are gonna beat them to the punch on immigration

 

[magnifier661]

i think the dems are gonna beat them to the punch on immigration

I think you're right. But that is truly the "swing vote". Gays and liberals will not sway away from dems. The hispanci vote can.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I think you're right. But that is truly the "swing vote". Gays and liberals will not sway away from dems. The hispanci vote can.

well the simple answer is a hispanic candidate

 

[Denny Crane]

Audit the Fed.
Don't vote for debt ceiling limit increases.

Done.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

wrong thread?