The Gary Johnson thread

[riverman]

I thought the forum needed a thread about him..I'm voting for him as a sort of safety valve vote and to add fuel to jumpstart the end of the two party system we've watched like a bad divorce case most of our adult lives. Johnson is pretty balanced, moderate and was a highly successful governor. Anything anyone can add to the thread about his positions or else, please do. Attached is a link I found about him.
https://www.isidewith.com/candidate-guide/gary-johnson

 

[barfo]

Who? Never heard of him. If he was a real candidate I'd expect Denny to post constantly about him.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

Who? Never heard of him. If he was a real candidate I'd expect Denny to post constantly about him.

barfo

The media isn't covering him. He's a danger to their chosen candidate.

 

[Denny Crane]

 

[Denny Crane]

 

[riverman]

Who? Never heard of him. If he was a real candidate I'd expect Denny to post constantly about him.

barfo

He's the surprise candidate...the pinch hitter when the other two get ejected from the game for unsportsmanlike conduct

 

[barfo]

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The trend is good, if it holds he'll be up to 15% in about 9 months!

barfo

 

[barfo]

He's the surprise candidate...the pinch hitter when the other two get ejected from the game for unsportsmanlike conduct

Thought that was Evan McMuffin, the scrappy candidate.

barfo

 

[riverman]

The reason I've really decided to vote against the status quo is that I can't win voting any other way anyway. I want the president to be civil, honest and follow through with their gameplan without stopping to argue along the way...

 

[riverman]

Thought that was Evan McMuffin, the scrappy candidate.

barfo

He'll beat up Trump and get arrested

 

[Nikolokolus]

The reason I've really decided to vote against the status quo is that I can't win voting any other way anyway. I want the president to be civil, honest and follow through with their gameplan without stopping to argue along the way...

We've been presented with possibly the two worst candidates in our nation's history. 320 million people and this is the best we can do? Fuck me.

I know Johnson won't win, but I feel like voting for him is a one of those baby-steps to breaking the the Republican-Democrat duopoly, and the façade that we live in a healthy, functional democratic republic.

I'm just glad I don't live in a swing state.

 

[riverman]

The trend is good, if it holds he'll be up to 15% in about 9 months!

barfo

by then people might not think he's a place kicker in the NFL

 

[riverman]

George Washington was the last independent candidate to win the office...Ross Perot comes in at second place with a surprising surge to 19% in his bid. No presidential campaign has ever been as polarizing as this one....I dreaded a Clinton campaign...the GOP has decades of research into her public career...they didn't even have to do any this time...Trump is just a sad reflection of bad behavior...the ugly American tourist

 

[MarAzul]

I actually think it is really too bad that a leader would take the position that smoking pot is ok.

" I have always maintained that legalizing marijuana will lead to less overall substance abuse because people will find marijuana as such a safer alternative than everything else that's out there — starting with alcohol. The campaign to legalize marijuana in Colorado was a campaign based on: Marijuana is safer than alcohol."
http://www.ibtimes.com/marijuana-le...ohnson-explains-why-he-supports-legal-2383547

Safer is not the issue. Being able to fully function is the issue and people that regularly use pot can not. Nor can you get them to give it up because they are not functioning.

It seems to me that his message to young people is a terrible message. I don't want his ass having a bigger horn to blow.

 

[MarAzul]

the ugly American tourist

Geez! I don't get that at all.

 

[riverman]

I actually think it is really too bad that a leader would take the position that smoking pot is ok.

" I have always maintained that legalizing marijuana will lead to less overall substance abuse because people will find marijuana as such a safer alternative than everything else that's out there — starting with alcohol. The campaign to legalize marijuana in Colorado was a campaign based on: Marijuana is safer than alcohol."
http://www.ibtimes.com/marijuana-le...ohnson-explains-why-he-supports-legal-2383547

Safer is not the issue. Being able to fully function is the issue and people that regularly use pot can not. Nor can you get then to give it up because they are not functioning.

It seems to me that his message to young people is a terrible message. I don't want his ass having a bigger horn to blow.

Marijuana is huge business legal or not....we spent billions of tax payer dollars prosecuting pot users and growers sending their kids on welfare and drying up what expendable income those folks had to shop with...legalizing it makes it taxable...abusing anything is bad....like sanding a boat without a carbon filter mask...not a good choice.

 

[riverman]

Geez! I don't get that at all.

You've got the Hemingway thing going for you Marz

 

[Nikolokolus]

I don't smoke weed, but I know many adults that hold down high-level professional jobs and it has no affect whatsoever on their performance. I know far more people who are negatively impacted by their alcohol use/abuse.

Marijauna should be regulated and taxed, but criminalizing it didn't stop people from smoking it or all of the negative consequences of it being classified as a schedule 1 narcotic (massive incarcerations, overcrowded prisons, a violent black market economy, etc.)

 

[santeesioux]

If I even bother to vote I'm probably voting for him, I'm not going to be party to either of the other two numb skulls.

 

[MarAzul]

abusing anything is bad

Well in my view, using it is debilitating so using and abusing are the same.

Hemingway

He was not one of my favorite writers, but I don't think that is what you had in mind?

I know many adults that hold down high-level professional jobs

My experience is the opposite. Had to fire a couple because they could not get their design work done and would not give the shit up.
Alcoholics can work sober and can be rehabilitated. Never works with pot users.

 

[Denny Crane]

George Washington was the last independent candidate to win the office...Ross Perot comes in at second place with a surprising surge to 19% in his bid. No presidential campaign has ever been as polarizing as this one....I dreaded a Clinton campaign...the GOP has decades of research into her public career...they didn't even have to do any this time...Trump is just a sad reflection of bad behavior...the ugly American tourist

George Wallace.

 

[MarAzul]

I think am the one against 99 on this board about pot.
Is there anyone else on this board that has had impaired pot users working for them? By impaired, I mean failing to be able to do their job?

 

[Denny Crane]

Nobody's suing Johnson.

Johnson hasn't ordered the bombing of Syria and Libya.

He's got executive experience and was quite successful. His VP was governor of a blue state.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I think am the one against 99 on this board about pot.
Is their anyone else on this board that has had impaired pot users working for them? By impaired, I mean failing to be able to do their job?

I am a project manager and fully 3/4 of the people that work under me smoke pot. They don't miss work, they don't miss deadlines and they do good work. When they get shit-faced the night before they are hungover and their productivity nosedives or they call in sick.

edit: These are not "stoners." My feeling is that drug abusers and alcohol abusers are similarly unreliable.

 

[MarAzul]

I am a project manager and fully 3/4 of the people that work under me smoke pot.

Ah! I see, it is your norm. I only had a 2 or 3 at a time out of about 270. Well let me restate that, 2 or 3 at a time that I became aware of at anyone time.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Ah! I see, it is your norm. I only had a 2 or 3 at a time out of about 270. Well let me restate that, 2 or 3 at a time that I became aware of at anyone time.

I didn't know they smoked pot until it was legalized. I'm sure you'd be shocked how many people actually use.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

It's nice to see Marazul agree with the Obama administration that pot is bad and should remain illegal.

 

[MarAzul]

alcohol abusers are similarly unreliable.

Yes but when the alcohol abuser become unreliable you very well maybe able to get them to go through rehabilitation. Never was able to do that successfully with a pot user.

 

[MarAzul]

I'm sure you'd be shocked how many people actually use.

Probably not. My nose works quite well. But then I don't smoke it. You would be surprise to find out how apparent it is on people that do.

 

[MarAzul]

Obama

He was still smoking rope in the Islands when I fired my first pot head for lack of performance.