The Gary Johnson thread

[riverman]

Johnson has repeatedly said he doesn't tow the Libertarian line across the board...one of the things I like about him..he has governed without turning his state into some weird cult...

 

[barfo]

Johnson has repeatedly said he doesn't tow the Libertarian line across the board...one of the things I like about him..he has governed without turning his state into some weird cult...

Sure, because he was a Republican, and until recently, Republicans weren't some weird cult.

barfo

 

[riverman]

Sure, because he was a Republican, and until recently, Republicans weren't some weird cult.

barfo

my point....as a Republican he dropped out before the guys with the lampshade hats showed up...he's an interesting guy.

 

[barfo]

Yes, he does win points for getting out when the getting was good...

barfo

 

[riverman]

Yes, he does win points for getting out when the getting was good...

barfo

shows some true foresight

 

[Denny Crane]

If your first statement is true, then the fault for the second lies with Libertarians. No one is keeping you from running serious, attractive candidates.

The trouble is, you don't bother. Your party caters almost entirely to flakes and extremists. You either don't bother to run candidates in local elections, or your candidates are, at best, goofballs. You've developed no bench, so you don't have serious candidates at the top, just warmed over republicans.

To me, this says that libertarians are lazy. They don't want to do the hard work of politics. They just want to be elected by acclamation because their "philosophy" is supposedly attractive. Doesn't work that way in the real world. Candidates do matter.

As a result, in an election where both major parties arguably put guns to their own heads, you can't capitalize. Your party isn't shovel-ready.

This was your big chance, and you blew it. Oh well.

barfo

What a load of blather.

The Libertarians are on the ballot in all 50 states, and have been for all the elections I can remember. That alone takes hard work.

The sorry thing is Donald Trump is telling the truth about YOUR candidate. It's that bad.

"Crooked Hillary"

 

[barfo]

What a load of blather.

The Libertarians are on the ballot in all 50 states, and have been for all the elections I can remember. That alone takes hard work.

Oh, poor thing, you must be exhausted. Why don't you take the next 4 years off?

And then we can have this exact same discussion next time.

Edit: oh, and apparently not: currently on the ballot in 43 states, and only in 48 in 2012.

Edit again:

Historically, Libertarians have also achieved 50-state ballot access for their presidential candidate three times, in 1980, 1992, and 1996 (in 2000L. Neil Smith was on the Arizona ballot instead of the nominee, Harry Browne).

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

Oh, poor thing, you must be exhausted. Why don't you take the next 4 years off?

And then we can have this exact same discussion next time.

Edit: oh, and apparently not: currently on the ballot in 43 states, and only in 48 in 2012.

Edit again:

barfo

Your link.

As of now, Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson is on the ballot in 43 states + DC, with efforts underway to get access in the remaining seven states.

You and mags are two of a kind. Sycophants for the worst kind of people.

Your link is out of date.

https://www.lp.org/2016-presidential-ballot-access-map

The Libertarian Party currently has ballot access for the 2016 Presidential candidate in 46 states, plus D.C., and remains on track to be on the ballot in all 50.

 

[Denny Crane]

http://www.cleveland.com/obrien/ind...ides_trump_slides_the.html#incart_river_index

Clinton hides, Trump slides, the republic subsides: Kevin O'Brien

This may go down in history as the presidential election that made everyone angry. That, at least, would offer some hope that Americans' taste in presidential candidates might be redeemable.

For now, though, all is bleak. The crook keeps proving more unabashedly crooked and the flake just keeps getting flakier.

Hillary's horror show

There's no new lesson to learn from plumbing the depths of Hillary Clinton's corruption or marveling at the heights of her mendacity. She's as dirty as the day is long, and has been since the day she wriggled out of the Arkansas mud to become a public figure. This we knew.

All we're getting now are more accurate readings of how low she has gone.

We probably will never know all of the wrong she has done, or all of the details of her criminality — the way the private email server was used during her time at the State Department certainly was illegal, no matter how circumstances forced FBI Director James Comey to spin it.

Now, the news is about the many matches between the names in her formerly secret appointment book at State and the names of big donors to the Clinton Foundation.

Don't get your hopes up. As it always does, with a Democrat-friendly news media and a national attention span well short of a gnat's, the Clinton strategy will work.

Deny. Dissemble. Delay. Dismiss.

It's not true. It's technically not true, and besides, you can't prove it. Sure, you can have our records — someday. OK, you got us, but it's such an old story that no one cares anymore. (What difference, at this point, does it make?)

We're a few months away from electing to the highest executive office in the land someone manifestly unfit to hold any position of trust. We are on the verge of putting the entire executive branch of the United States government — the most powerful office the voters can confer — in the hands of someone whose only desire is the acquisition of personal wealth, but who wouldn't mind having an exalted title to make the grifting easier.

To head a massive regulatory state that holds in its hands the power to make or break not only businesses but entire industries, we are about to elect a woman whose entire approach to government can be accurately summed up in two words: Pay me.

Hillary Clinton has been gone from the State Department since Feb. 1, 2013. Long before that day, numerous organizations were interested in finding out what she did there and just how tied-in the Clinton Foundation was to her official duties. The answer to that one turns out to be "inextricably."

What if John Kerry's State Department hadn't slow-walked every inquiry?

What if it hadn't finally thrown up its hands and said, in effect, "Alas, 20,000-plus Freedom of Information Act requests! It's just too hard!"? What if it hadn't so vigorously resisted the lawsuits, which now number more than 100?

What if all of the details we're learning now about this "old story" had come to light two years ago, or even one year ago?

Would we still be facing the prospect of putting the office that Barack Obama has re-created in his own image — a playground equipped with a pen and a phone to indulge his every unchecked, unbalanced whim — in the hands of a person who is unmistakably corrupt?

We can only hope that when Clinton scoops her profits out of the Oval Office safe four years from January, her other most prominent attribute — horrendous judgment in national and international affairs — hasn't cost the country too dearly.

 

[barfo]

You and mags are two of a kind. Sycophants for the worst kind of people.

That word does not mean what you think it does.

Your link is out of date.

The Libertarian Party currently has ballot access for the 2016 Presidential candidate in 46 states, plus D.C., and remains on track to be on the ballot in all 50.

Whether it is currently 43 or 46, neither number is the 50 you claimed.

The Libertarians are on the ballot in all 50 states, and have been for all the elections I can remember.

You can only remember elections in 1980, 1992, and 1996?

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

That word does not mean what you think it does.



Whether it is currently 43 or 46, neither number is the 50 you claimed.



You can only remember elections in 1980, 1992, and 1996?

barfo

Sycophant

a person who acts obsequiously toward someone important in order to gain advantage.

Obsequious

obedient or attentive to an excessive or servile degree.

Yep, that's you.

Means what I think it means.

 

[barfo]

Sycophant

a person who acts obsequiously toward someone important in order to gain advantage.

Obsequious

obedient or attentive to an excessive or servile degree.

Yep, that's you.

Means what I think it means.

What advantage do you think I'm gaining? What contact do you think I have with the candidate?

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

What advantage do you think I'm gaining? What contact do you think I have with the candidate?

barfo

It doesn't matter what advantage _I_ think you're getting. It matters what motivates _YOU_ to defend the crook no matter what.

 

[barfo]

It doesn't matter what advantage _I_ think you're getting. It matters what motivates _YOU_ to defend the crook no matter what.

What motivates me to defend her is that it amuses me to argue with you.

You might have had a point when it came to mags - he apparently actually tries to communicate with Trump.

Since Hillary does not know or care who I am, and since I am making no attempt to change that, your use of the word 'sycophant' is incorrect. I seek no advantage from her. My life will be exactly the same whether or not I post here, aside from the lost productivity.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

What motivates me to defend her is that it amuses me to argue with you.

You might have had a point when it came to mags - he apparently actually tries to communicate with Trump.

Since Hillary does not know or care who I am, and since I am making no attempt to change that, your use of the word 'sycophant' is incorrect. I seek no advantage from her. My life will be exactly the same whether or not I post here, aside from the lost productivity.

barfo

Sycophant, nonetheless.

You don't have to converse with the person, only benefit by their success.

I'm happy to keep schooling you about politics, economics, and now it looks like I have to school you in english.

 

[barfo]

Sycophant, nonetheless.

You don't have to converse with the person, only benefit by their success.

It's not the accepted meaning of the word, but the first amendment guarantees you the right to misuse the language as you please. So carry on.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

Lesson #1. The dictionary is a book that defines the meaning of words.

Sycophant

a person who acts obsequiously toward someone important in order to gain advantage.

Obsequious

obedient or attentive to an excessive or servile degree.

Where does it say one has to have any contact or converse with the person?

You're obsessed with the woman.

 

[barfo]

You're obsessed with the woman.

You've been listening to Trump too much. It doesn't work to say "I know you are, but what am I?"

Anyone interested (that is, only me and you) can count up your posts about her, and my posts about her, and observe that the former number is much larger than the latter.

barfo

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I'm going to start deleting posts because of personal insults.

 

[Denny Crane]

You've been listening to Trump too much. It doesn't work to say "I know you are, but what am I?"

Anyone interested (that is, only me and you) can count up your posts about her, and my posts about her, and observe that the former number is much larger than the latter.

barfo

You're obsessed with the woman.

I haven't seen you this obsessed since Sarah Palin.

I can't listen to Trump much. The networks and CNN don't air his speeches.

 

[Denny Crane]

Obama/Clinton foreign policy.

 

[barfo]

You're obsessed with the woman.

I haven't seen you this obsessed since Sarah Palin.

Alas, poor Sarah. Poor, sweet, stupid Sarah. Ok, sweet doesn't really apply.

I wonder if she wishes she'd played the racist card a little more, so that there wasn't so much attention to her lack of grey matter.

I wonder if she's thinking 'gosh golly dagnabbit, if it weren't for those gotcha questions, that shoulda mighta oughta been me instead of Trump! I shoulda said from my house I could see Mexicans pourin' in over the border, you betcha'

I can't listen to Trump much. The networks and CNN don't air his speeches.

Ok, that was funny!

barfo

 

[jlprk]

I never tried rye whiskey before. Tastes good. Try rye.

Haven't read more than this page, but I do know that Barfo's right and Denny's wrong. And a sycophant is a loony pachyderm.

 

[Denny Crane]

And a sycophant is a loony pachyderm.

Zing! I would never make fun of barfo's weight.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I didn't know @barfo lives in South Carolina.

http://myfox8.com/2016/08/27/a-clown-appears-to-be-trying-to-lure-kids-into-woods-in-south-carolina/

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I didn't know @barfo lives in South Carolina.

http://myfox8.com/2016/08/27/a-clown-appears-to-be-trying-to-lure-kids-into-woods-in-south-carolina/

Is there a difference between a clown and someone dressed in clown clothing?

 

[barfo]

Is there a difference between a clown and someone dressed in clown clothing?

Yes! You might as well ask, is there a difference between a bodyman and a homeless guy with a ball peen hammer?

We clowns have to go through a rigorous training program before we are allowed to lure children into the woods without supervision.

barfo

 

[riverman]

Yes! You might as well ask, is there a difference between a bodyman and a homeless guy with a ball peen hammer?

We clowns have to go through a rigorous training program before we are allowed to lure children into the woods without supervision.

barfo

So how many supervisors go with you when you do this?

 

[barfo]

So how many supervisors go with you when you do this?

Well, none, I'm fully certified. But I do three shifts a week volunteering in the local woods with clown trainees, showing them the required density of vegetation, which soil types are best for digging shallow graves, etc. It's all about paying it forward.

barfo

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Yes! You might as well ask, is there a difference between a bodyman and a homeless guy with a ball peen hammer?

We clowns have to go through a rigorous training program before we are allowed to lure children into the woods without supervision.

barfo

Now HCP has a supervisor position? Is there no end to his luck?