The Gary Johnson thread

[barfo]

She changed her position like a weathervane. She has demonstrated no conviction.

Like a weathervane suggests that she changed it back and forth multiple times. She didn't do that.

Maybe you could say she changed her position like she was in a drift boat on a river or something. I don't know.

But still, you are off-topic. The accusation was not flip-floppery, but selling policy positions to the highest bidder.

Compared to, say, the Libertarians who nominated a gay man as their first candidate in the 1970s.

But you don't like Libertarians.

SMH

If nominating gays for president was the sole thing I cared about, then yes, that would make the LP my party of choice.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

Like a weathervane suggests that she changed it back and forth multiple times. She didn't do that.

Maybe you could say she changed her position like she was in a drift boat on a river or something. I don't know.

But still, you are off-topic. The accusation was not flip-floppery, but selling policy positions to the highest bidder.



If nominating gays for president was the sole thing I cared about, then yes, that would make the LP my party of choice.

barfo

Whichever way the wind blows.

She was for TPP. She pushed it. Now that Sanders got some traction running against such things, she's "against" it. If she's elected, I bet she signs something like it, claiming it is somehow fixed. That'll be for money.

 

[Denny Crane]

And what do you know?

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/terry-mcauliffe-hillary-clinton-tpp-trade-226253

Clinton friend McAuliffe says Clinton will flip on TPP, then walks it back
Terry McAuliffe tells POLITICO the Democratic nominee will support a deal with tweaks that Sanders' supporters hate. But the Clinton campaign calls the comments 'flat wrong.'


(walks it back, LOL)

 

[barfo]

Whichever way the wind blows.

She was for TPP. She pushed it. Now that Sanders got some traction running against such things, she's "against" it. If she's elected, I bet she signs something like it, claiming it is somehow fixed.

Yes, that's called 'being a politician'. It is absolutely true that politicians sometimes switch sides for political reasons. I gave you an example of your Johnson swinging from side to side above. Trump is busy trying to change his position on immigration right now.

That'll be for money.

Do tell. How does Hillary personally benefit from TPP?

barfo

 

[e_blazer]

Yes, that's called 'being a politician'. It is absolutely true that politicians sometimes switch sides for political reasons. I gave you an example of your Johnson swinging from side to side above. Trump is busy trying to change his position on immigration right now.



Do tell. How does Hillary personally benefit from TPP?

barfo

Just guessing, but via donations to the Clinton Foundation from some happy corporate sponsors?

 

[barfo]

Just guessing, but via donations to the Clinton Foundation from some happy corporate sponsors?

Why not by having the Chinese allow her to murder people in their country for sport?

I mean as long as we are just making shit up, let's make it entertaining.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

Yes, that's called 'being a politician'. It is absolutely true that politicians sometimes switch sides for political reasons. I gave you an example of your Johnson swinging from side to side above. Trump is busy trying to change his position on immigration right now.



Do tell. How does Hillary personally benefit from TPP?

barfo

I seriously doubt Johnson changed his mind to attract more votes.

The others don't matter much. They're just awful.

 

[Denny Crane]

Just guessing, but via donations to the Clinton Foundation from some happy corporate sponsors?

He'll deny, deflect, or otherwise it goes way over his head.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

corporate society depends on all of us giving them our money, their accumulated power is given to them completely voluntarily.

its actually their only weakness, besides guillotines. thats why they are constantly trying to create monopolies, where consumers have no choice.

 

[MARIS61]

Ah, a facebook page. Now we are getting to the hard-core facts.

barfo

Be a fool.

http://observer.com/2016/08/media-o...ion-then-downplay-clinton-foundation-scandal/

 

[MARIS61]

Why not by having the Chinese allow her to murder people in their country for sport?

I mean as long as we are just making shit up, let's make it entertaining.

barfo

Nobody made this up:

At least 85 of 154 people from private interests who met or had phone conversations scheduled with Clinton while she led the State Department donated to her family charity or pledged commitments to its international programs, according to a review of State Department calendars released so far to The Associated Press. Combined, the 85 donors contributed as much as $156 million. At least 40 donated more than $100,000 each, and 20 gave more than $1 million.

You're spitting nonsense, give it up.

Both Clintons have been exposed as treasonous, lying, corporate whores who illegally traded our country's safety and wealth for their own personal financial gain.

Future generations will judge them to be the most prolific criminal couple ever to have set foot in the White House.

 

[Denny Crane]

Bill Clinton rented out the Lincoln Bedroom.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...donating_to_hillary_clinton_many_of_bill.html

https://iw-files.s3.amazonaws.com/documents/pdfs/fat_cat_hotel_1996_08.pdf

 

[Denny Crane]

Public Integrity. What a concept. Doesn't describe Hiliar.

 

[Denny Crane]

Bad news, @barfo
http://heatst.com/world/fear-of-clowns-is-suddenly-sweeping-the-world/

 

[Denny Crane]

More bad news, @barfo. For you!

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/05/u...ick&contentCollection=Politics&pgtype=article

Libertarian Gary Johnson Polls at 10 Percent. Who Are His Supporters?

Gary Johnson, the Libertarian candidate for president, may be on track to win more votes than any third-party candidate in 20 years, if current polling holds up.

Who are his supporters?

Mr. Johnson, a former Republican governor of New Mexico, is relying heavily on the backing of young people and independent voters disillusioned with the two major parties’ nominees.

More than 70 percent of his backers are younger than 50, and over three-fifths are political independents, according to a mid-August poll by the Pew Research Center.

Over all, Mr. Johnson, who will be on the ballot in all 50 states, has the backing of 10 percent of registered voters, the Pew poll found.

Mr. Johnson’s coalition is relatively diverse, particularly compared with that of Donald J. Trump, the Republican presidential nominee.

Thirteen percent of Mr. Johnson’s backers are black or Latino, compared with just 6 percent for Mr. Trump.

And while just 42 percent of Mr. Trump’s supporters are women, the Pew center found that Mr. Johnson’s are evenly divided — 51 percent women, 49 percent men

 

[barfo]

More bad news, @barfo. For you!

Why is that bad news?

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

Why is that bad news?

barfo

You didn't want the LP to get on the ballot in 50 states.

And he's up in the polls.

 

[riverman]

Why is that bad news?

barfo

If he wins you'll still be able to practice a commie pinko lifestyle and he'll just smile and let you do what you want.....unless you prefer to have an adversary that is at war with all commie pinko stuff.....it's the year of the Johnson barfo......Bernie's gone now

 

[barfo]

You didn't want the LP to get on the ballot in 50 states.

You are confused. I merely pointed out that he was not on the ballot in all fifty states, contrary to your claim. He still isn't, by the way.

That's just a point of fact, not an opinion or a desire on my part.

And he's up in the polls.

Yep. I don't see that as a bad thing. Not sure why you think I do or should.

barfo

 

[barfo]

Gary was one toke over the line this morning:

Barnicle: “What would you do if you are elected about Aleppo?”

Johnson: “And what is Aleppo?”

Barnicle: “You’re kidding.”

Johnson: “No.”

barfo

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Gary was one toke over the line this morning:

Barnicle: “What would you do if you are elected about Aleppo?”

Johnson: “And what is Aleppo?”

Barnicle: “You’re kidding.”

Johnson: “No.”

barfo

So, the guy whose platform includes non-intervention in the Middle East is unaware of a city in the Middle East? Uh...OK.

Probably not going to help elevate him over that meteor in the polls, but it doesn't make me think any less of him.

 

[barfo]

So, the guy whose platform includes non-intervention in the Middle East is unaware of a city in the Middle East? Uh...OK.

Probably not going to help elevate him over that meteor in the polls, but it doesn't make me think any less of him.

I agree. It's humorous, but no more disqualifying than '57 states'. Johnson has explained he heard it as as acronym, and couldn't figure out at that moment what ALEPO stood for.

barfo

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I agree. It's humorous, but no more disqualifying than '57 states'. Johnson has explained he heard it as as acronym, and couldn't figure out at that moment what ALEPO stood for.

barfo

Perhaps I'm splitting hairs, but I put "57 states" at a completely different level of ignorance. That's akin to those US Americans that Miss Teen South Carolina talked about so many years ago that can't find the United States on a map.

 

[barfo]

Perhaps I'm splitting hairs, but I put "57 states" at a completely different level of ignorance. That's akin to those US Americans that Miss Teen South Carolina talked about so many years ago that can't find the United States on a map.

I suppose you might have a point if Johnson actually didn't know about Aleppo, and Obama actually thought there were 57 states. But neither case had anything to do with ignorance, they had to do with momentary brain farts.

I think Miss South Carolina was a bit different - more akin to stage fright mixed with actual ignorance and lack of preparation.

barfo

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

first i've heard of allepo.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

sounds like fucking dog food bro

 

[SlyPokerDog]

There were 57 primaries, he misspoke. There are more primaries than actual states because we let places like Washington DC, puerto rico and America Samoa have them. Personally I think we should have fewer primaries. 5 sounds about right.

 

[barfo]

sounds like fucking dog food bro

Aleppo is people!!

/soylent green font

barfo

 

[riverman]

Gary was one toke over the line this morning:

Barnicle: “What would you do if you are elected about Aleppo?”

Johnson: “And what is Aleppo?”

Barnicle: “You’re kidding.”

Johnson: “No.”

barfo

I know geography fairly well and I had to look up Aleppo several months ago and see where it was exactly myself...I thought for sure it was Pinnochio's father. ..what Johnson probably wanted to say is...I won't be running for president of Aleppo anytime soon.

 

[Denny Crane]

http://reason.com/blog/2016/09/08/gary-johnson-in-double-digits-in-most-st

Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson will be on the ballot in all 50 states but will almost certainly not be on stage for the presidential debates that start at the end of September. And yet a new poll shows that the former governor of New Mexico is in double digits in no fewer than 42 states. In 15 of those states, he's at 15 percent or higher, the cut-off to get into the debates. Not surprisingly, he's at his highest—25 percent—in New Mexico, but he also pulls 23 percent in Utah and 19 percent in Alaska, Idaho, and South Dakota.

The poll was conducted online by the Washington Post and Survey Monkey between August 9 and September 1; about 75,000 registered voters participated. According to the poll's results, Hillary Clinton leads Donald Trump in electoral votes by a tally of 244 to 126, with many traditionally Republican states (such as Texas) now in a "tossup" scenario. The Post notes that when Johnson and Green Party nominee Jill Stein are included in the survey, the race tightens up but Clinton retains her advantage.

We'll see if the Aleppo thing hurts him. I don't see why it would.