The GIANTS win the Pennant, The GIANTS win the pennant!

[blgridesagain]

Fred (Chicken) Stanley is the farm director.


Dunno why, I just felt a need to post it. It does seem a bit funny.

lmaooo

 

[Rick2583]

Wow...now who else has misplaced their sense of humor? Lol!

Sorry Rick, the bay area holds no redeeming qualities for me. As for Posey...he sure as hell whined and Bodhi took it up a few octaves. Its the world rule in baseball in my lifetime. If they are worried about Posey, stick him in left or on first. Real men defend the dish. Posada would have cut off his leg before having a rule like that associated with him. The closer and the beard thing was fucking ridiculous....no class (see Mo). I have no issue with fat guys playing ball, loved watching T Gwynn and Cecil Fielder. But the panda masks and heads in the stands....really? What is this....Chinese baseball? Yes...fucktards in kayaks, I'm rooting for a great white! As for orange....I also hate the Mets and Gloryholes, toss in the Astros too and the gay rainbow uniforms from the 70/80s. I think we agree on Barroid.

And since when did being a fan, short for fanatic, ever have to make rational sense? I mean what grown man actually like the Raiders outside of Oakland and LA barrios? But we don't judge that.

I look forward to the Royals kicking some bay area butt!

I was a huge Bobby Bonds fan therefor it went over to his son who showed amazing potential in his first 10+ years. Unfortunately he got caught up in the Sosa/McGwire HR chase of 98 & decided to join the PED party. Unfortunate for him since he was well on his way to a HOF career. So yeah we agree on him. But seriously if you really think for one minute that the league implemented this new catcher rule based solely on what Posey & perhaps Bochy approached the league with you're living in a dream world. I've no doubt that other managers looked at the Posey collision & thought "Hey in this day & age of multi million dollar salaries we need to do better to protect our catchers". I'm sure it was approved league wide & not just on Posey or Bochy's suggestion.

But hey you like who you like & hate who you hate, I thought your reasons were a little lame but hey......its all good. GO GIANTS!

 

[totus44]

Catching is inherently dangerous and riskful position, period. This rule change cheapens the game....Posey could have opted to not block the plate. But I'm to believe that peer pressure forced him to man up and field his position? Resulting in his broken leg? There was a cacophony on whining coming out of the fragile giant organization. No one said they had to tie up millions on their receiver.

What's lame to me are people with AL and NL teams. Fandom should be monogynous.

 

[Rick2583]

Catching is inherently dangerous and riskful position, period. This rule change cheapens the game....Posey could have opted to not block the plate. But I'm to believe that peer pressure forced him to man up and field his position? Resulting in his broken leg? There was a cacophony on whining coming out of the fragile giant organization. No one said they had to tie up millions on their receiver.

What's lame to me are people with AL and NL teams. Fandom should be monogynous.

Apparently you missed my post #43 in the thread titled "Post season picks" where I clearly explain this. And as Ron (59) also clearly pointed out, You can root for more then one team. Try & keep up.

 

[totus44]

Apparently you missed my post #43 in the thread titled "Post season picks" where I clearly explain this. And as Ron (59) also clearly pointed out, You can root for more then one team. Try & keep up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Its still lame.

 

[Mattingly23NY]

Catching is inherently dangerous and riskful position, period. This rule change cheapens the game....Posey could have opted to not block the plate. But I'm to believe that peer pressure forced him to man up and field his position? Resulting in his broken leg? There was a cacophony on whining coming out of the fragile giant organization. No one said they had to tie up millions on their receiver.

What's lame to me are people with AL and NL teams. Fandom should be monogynous.

I don't dispute your take Tote-

No one else I can recall since Ray Fosse, had as much of a collision at Home Plate. Fosse tho' lost his career more or less, as ya'll know. Tho' MLB didn't take up and create a Little League rule for Fosse....

As much I cannot stand that overweight bastard in Frisco neither...Panda needs to shed at least 50 lbs, IMO. I don't enjoy out of shape players in any sport. Sandoval is NO EXCEPTION....!!!

I didn't really care for either Cecil or his Kid either, detracted from everything I was ever taught about all sports....!

Have another Taco and Pepsi, hell have another 2 dozen or more, throw a fkn dozen pizzas in, and a gallon of Ice Cream too....!

hell even Valenzuela was man enough to admit he ate to many fkn tacos and pepsi's...Don't tell me Pablo plays his position better at 3rd either, with his big fkn gut, effing disgusting IMO....

 

[Rick2583]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Its still lame.

Apparently only to you.

 

[yankeesince59]

What's lame to me are people with AL and NL teams. Fandom should be monogynous.

.

...I think most people's "fandom" is first rooted with the game of Baseball itself.

... And just because the Yanx are not in the PS doesn't mean we'll stop watching Baseball games and it doesn't mean we can't pull for or against another team.

 

[Rick2583]

I don't dispute your take Tote-

No one else I can recall since Ray Fosse, had as much of a collision at Home Plate. Fosse tho' lost his career more or less, as ya'll know. Tho' MLB didn't take up and create a Little League rule for [/B]Fosse....

As much I cannot stand that overweight bastard in Frisco neither...Panda needs to shed at least 50 lbs, IMO. I don't enjoy out of shape players in any sport. Sandoval is NO EXCEPTION....!!!

I didn't really care for either Cecil or his Kid either, detracted from everything I was ever taught about all sports....!

Have another Taco and Pepsi, hell have another 2 dozen or more, throw a fkn dozen pizzas in, and a gallon of Ice Cream too....!

hell even Valenzuela was man enough to admit he ate to many fkn tacos and pepsi's...Don't tell me Pablo plays his position better at 3rd either, with his big fkn gut, effing disgusting IMO....

As I mentioned Rob, catchers in Fosse's era weren't making 10+ million dollars a season. Hell, look at football & all the new rules they now have to protect players.

 

[blgridesagain]

Sandoval won't be too concerned if he were playing against the Yankees all the time but I'd like to see what would happen if teams bunted for hits a couple/few times each game just to test the "fat guy" playing 3b.
Just curious....are they bashful? Do they consider it an insult? I mean..seriously, don't they wonder how often tubby can run in, bend down, grab a ball with his bare hand and throw across his body well enough to get the runner... in one motion?
jeez

However- I would certainly find a spot in my lineup for Sandoval's bat.

The Giants already won a playoff game by bunting on the pitcher - Choate.
The large majority of pitchers couldn't cleanly field two good bunts without fumbling or throwing away at least one of them. I'm not talking about easy comebackers.
Defensively, most pitchers are clumsy robots. lol


I know it won't happen, it just seems teams/ball players don't attack defenses, specifically infield defenses...most guys just swing hard all the time and hope it falls in or goes over a fence although I have a feeling there WILL be an adjustment made by teams/players next season regarding the shifts...or overly exaggerated positioning to put it another way.

 

[totus44]

.

...I think most people's "fandom" is first rooted with the game of Baseball itself.

... And just because the Yanx are not in the PS doesn't mean we'll stop watching Baseball games and it doesn't mean we can't pull for or against another team.

Fuck the game....Yankees or nothing. I don't miss a pregame or pitch when my team is playing in Oct. These current games...some entertainment value, but I'm happy with highlights. My sports teams are like my marriage, one and done...for better or worse. Am I aware their are other women...sure, I have a mom and sister, lol! This concept that you can have a NL team and an AL...is so far beyond namby pampy. Its also a big reason I don't get sucked into rotisserie or fantasy baseball. Its hard to root for your roster players if they are playing against the Yanks.

These loyalties are what defines me.

 

[Rick2583]

Sandoval won't be too concerned if he were playing against the Yankees all the time but I'd like to see what would happen if teams bunted for hits a couple/few times each game just to test the "fat guy" playing 3b.
Just curious....are they bashful? Do they consider it an insult? I mean..seriously, don't they wonder how often tubby can run in, bend down, grab a ball with his bare hand and throw across his body well enough to get the runner... in one motion?
jeez

However- I would certainly find a spot in my lineup for Sandoval's bat.

The Giants already won a playoff game by bunting on the pitcher - Choate.
The large majority of pitchers couldn't cleanly field two good bunts without fumbling or throwing away at least one of them. I'm not talking about easy comebackers.
Defensively, most pitchers are clumsy robots. lol


I know it won't happen, it just seems teams/ball players don't attack defenses, specifically infield defenses...most guys just swing hard all the time and hope it falls in or goes over a fence although I have a feeling there WILL be an adjustment made by teams/players next season regarding the shifts...or overly exaggerated positioning to put it another way.

Believe it or not at the start of the season Sandoval was about 30 lbs lighter. Looks like to many night time snacks during the season.

 

[totus44]

As I mentioned Rob, catchers in Fosse's era weren't making 10+ million dollars a season. Hell, look at football & all the new rules they now have to protect players.

Great example Rick, let's talk about the pussification of football. They are on the trajectory to becoming the NFFL.....national flag football league. What's next...E-collars to punish guys for plays deemed too aggressive?

 

[totus44]

Believe it or not at the start of the season Sandoval was about 30 lbs lighter. Looks like to many night time snacks during the season.

How is that even remotely OK by the team?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I'm with tote on this, giants are my team, not a fan of the red Sox or the As or anybody else.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

How is that even remotely OK by the team?

Because he produced. 2010 he let his weight get bad and lost his job to Juan Uribe

 

[Mattingly23NY]

.

...I think most people's "fandom" is first rooted with the game of Baseball itself.

... And just because the Yanx are not in the PS doesn't mean we'll stop watching Baseball games and it doesn't mean we can't pull for or against another team.

Yep, indeed such is so, no doubt...
Go Bums, oh shit, never mind....(never like those Bums, til Torre and Donnie BB came West and South, yep, south of the Mason Dixon Line.....

 

[Mattingly23NY]

As I mentioned Rob, catchers in Fosse's era weren't making 10+ million dollars a season. Hell, look at football & all the new rules they now have to protect players.

No doubt, I too know as much Old Timer....

Fosse tho' as ya'll know had his career cut short, in a Flipping All Star Exhibition... A game that didn't even count, and He's taken out by Charlie Hustle Rose.....in those days, one did what they had to do. I always admired Rose's hustle. Even passing on his style of play to my Little League Teams....!!! Run that ball out, no matter what....!!!

 

[yankeesince59]

Fuck the game....Yankees or nothing. I don't miss a pregame or pitch when my team is playing in Oct. These current games...some entertainment value, but I'm happy with highlights. My sports teams are like my marriage, one and done...for better or worse. Am I aware their are other women...sure, I have a mom and sister, lol! This concept that you can have a NL team and an AL...is so far beyond namby pampy. Its also a big reason I don't get sucked into rotisserie or fantasy baseball. Its hard to root for your roster players if they are playing against the Yanks.

These loyalties are what defines me.

..."fuck the game"?...are you serious?

... like I said, at least for me, the game itself comes first...if the Yanx were no more, I'd still watch the games.

...especially the PS games.

 

[totus44]

..."fuck the game"?...are you serious?

... like I said, at least for me, the game itself comes first...if the Yanx were no more, I'd still watch the games.

...especially the PS games.

OK...but would you care? Would you be emotionally invested in baseball without the damn Yankees?

My buddy at work tells a great story...I hope i do it justice. He grew up in Michigan and followed the tigers. After college he did his PhD at MIT and followed to sux by osmosis. Then he did his post doc at the U of Tokyo...some guy Matsui was all the rage. But it wasn't until he moved back to the Midwest and discovered the Cardinals that baseball really clicked in his life. Everything else was a casual observation...now he's a fanatic, obsessed with the Cards and not MLB or any other league.

To me, the essence of a fan is having that one team to call your own.

 

[yankeesince59]

...see, that's where we differ. I love the game.

...yes, I've been a Yanx fan for as long as I can remember but hell, I'll stop every now and then and watch kids playing t-ball, again, because I love the game.

...the years when the Yanx were terrible I still took great interest in the PS/WS and watched the games. If the Sox are in the PS I pull against them, no matter who they are playing.

...can you imagine what would happen to TV ratings and revenue if everyone quit watching the games once "their team" was out of the sweepstakes for a title?



...but by the same token, am I likely to go out and buy a Buster Posey jersey?...no.

 

[Mattingly23NY]

Fuck the game....Yankees or nothing. I don't miss a pregame or pitch when my team is playing in Oct. These current games...some entertainment value, but I'm happy with highlights. My sports teams are like my marriage, one and done...for better or worse. Am I aware their are other women...sure, I have a mom and sister, lol! This concept that you can have a NL team and an AL...is so far beyond namby pampy. Its also a big reason I don't get sucked into rotisserie or fantasy baseball. Its hard to root for your roster players if they are playing against the Yanks.

These loyalties are what defines me.

Yep, to some extent, tho' I enjoy any Baseball, tho' my loyalties will always be in Pinstripes....

Monogomous relations- I get that, going on 34 years of Marriage to my 1st and Only Wife...Love her to my death, as I march to my death in Yankee Garb.....to my utter death go I, with my NY hat on, my heart has always bled Yankee blue, from those very early 60s on, when I was barely old enough to know the game. With some great help from both my Grandpa's.....

 

[Mattingly23NY]

1964- Fireball Jackson, STRUCK OUT 252 BATTERS IN ONLY 20 GAMES.....holy moses, I indeed watched this stunning Hurler:
Check out, on "Fireball Jackson", a young mid 20s aged kid, and as good a Pitcher as I've ever seen, played Semi-Pro Ball for Ft. Leavvenworth Prison. Jackson was doing life for-

http://news.google.com/newspapers?n...Z0tAAAAIBAJ&sjid=_54FAAAAIBAJ&pg=7355,2663400

yet was The Doc K, long before Gooden was born....

What a site, to see Armed Guards on Horses, surrounding the Lawrence Stadium Field in Wichita, Home of several AA Teams over years. As well as home of the AAU World Series....!

 

[Mattingly23NY]

A better read is this:


"Jackson, a once legendary baseball pitcher who squandered a chance to play in
the major leagues, learned of Vaughn's plans for the exhibit shortly before he
died of liver cancer earlier this year."

what a incredible pitcher, moreso than any other I have seen in my life:

 

[Yankeefan5545]

My dad grew up in Vermont a Red Sox Fan til the day he passed. He used to speak of spending summers in Lynn and going to Fenway watching games from the right field bleachers. He also told me that he had no clue in all those years where Braves Field was. In those times you were either a Braves or Sox Fan and the two factions hated each other. The old man did not like National League Ball. My mother was a Philadelphia A's Fan, followed them to KC then on to Oakland. Ditto there in Philly, you were either an A's Fan or Phillies fan with the two factions hated each other. I became a Yankee Fan, hated the Dodgers, liked that Mays guy but he wasn't Mickey Mantle. Both got out of the 5 boroughs when I was a 12 year old kid. Never could like the NL teams although some had players that I liked. Am I pi@@ed that the Yankees aren't in it, you're damn right. Even Reggie Jackson once stated that the World Series was better with the Yankees in it. But even as pi@@ed as I am I'll be hoping that some how they'll find a way in '15 and be as Jeter once quoted "We're the Yankees they hate us everywhere we go. As far as the current Champs well they earned it and I wonder how Cashman can face himself in the mirror every morning.

 

[Mattingly23NY]

...see, that's where we differ. I love the game.

...yes, I've been a Yanx fan for as long as I can remember but hell, I'll stop every now and then and watch kids playing t-ball, again, because I love the game.

...the years when the Yanx were terrible I still took great interest in the PS/WS and watched the games. If the Sox are in the PS I pull against them, no matter who they are playing.

...can you imagine what would happen to TV ratings and revenue if everyone quit watching the games once "their team" was out of the sweepstakes for a title?



...but by the same token, am I likely to go out and buy a Buster Posey jersey?...no.

Ditto :::

Well stated 59, I couldn't of put it any better into words. shit I love Little League, and such gave me some of the fondest Baseball Moments in My life.

My 1st year as a LL Mgr./Coach, upon seasons end, I lost my 10 year old LL MVP, as he was hit and dragged under a car for 100 feet, to his death. Casey Cass, Casey at bat, was my neighbor as much as he was a Proxy Son, who I drove to every practice, every game, then he DIED.....

"Forward he cried from the rear of the flank and died.....iiiiiieeeeeddddd."

The shit that I learned in the off season, to apply myself not as a Coach. His loss turned my mind inside out and Yes, I still cry over his loss, and am Not Ashamed to say as much.

No longer a Coach, Don't call me Coach Rob, I am your Big Brother, and The Baseball Field, DIAMOND, is SACRED...!!!

 

[Mattingly23NY]

My dad grew up in Vermont a Red Sox Fan til the day he passed. He used to speak of spending summers in Lynn and going to Fenway watching games from the right field bleachers. He also told me that he had no clue in all those years where Braves Field was. In those times you were either a Braves or Sox Fan and the two factions hated each other. The old man did not like National League Ball. My mother was a Philadelphia A's Fan, followed them to KC then on to Oakland. Ditto there in Philly, you were either an A's Fan or Phillies fan with the two factions hated each other. I became a Yankee Fan, hated the Dodgers, liked that Mays guy but he wasn't Mickey Mantle. Both got out of the 5 boroughs when I was a 12 year old kid. Never could like the NL teams although some had players that I liked. Am I pi@@ed that the Yankees aren't in it, you're damn right. Even Reggie Jackson once stated that the World Series was better with the Yankees in it. But even as pi@@ed as I am I'll be hoping that some how they'll find a way in '15 and be as Jeter once quoted "We're the Yankees they hate us everywhere we go. As far as the current Champs well they earned it and I wonder how Cashman can face himself in the mirror every morning.

Wow.....good stuff Man....great stuff....

I hung over the Giants Dugout when I was 10 years old, and got Mays, Marichal and McCovey's autographs....

the Usher never said a word to me, but stopped the 20 some kids who were trying to come down to the field level to do the same as I did.
Ours seats were on the rail of the dugout.

Kids today cannot fathom as much. Since the game radically changed, and any kid trying to do as much today, would be ejected....Unfathomable to most kids today.....

We might as well be the mythos Joseph Campbell so well wrote about....

 

[Rick2583]

OK...but would you care? Would you be emotionally invested in baseball without the damn Yankees?

My buddy at work tells a great story...I hope i do it justice. He grew up in Michigan and followed the tigers. After college he did his PhD at MIT and followed to sux by osmosis. Then he did his post doc at the U of Tokyo...some guy Matsui was all the rage. But it wasn't until he moved back to the Midwest and discovered the Cardinals that baseball really clicked in his life. Everything else was a casual observation...now he's a fanatic, obsessed with the Cards and not MLB or any other league.

To me, the essence of a fan is having that one team to call your own.

I'm sure you're in the minority on that. And seriously comparing marriage to sports has to be one of the dumbest analogies I've ever heard.

The son of a friend of mind is a die hard cowboy fan but because he grew up watching his dad follow the Packers he roots for them also. Except when they play each other.

To put it in terms you'll understand, It's not like cheating on your wife.

 

[Mattingly23NY]

I'm sure you're in the minority on that. And seriously comparing marriage to sports has to be one of the dumbest analogies I've ever heard.

The son of a friend of mind is a die hard cowboy fan but because he grew up watching his dad follow the Packers he roots for them also. Except when they play each other.

To put it in terms you'll understand, It's not like cheating on your wife.

I'd have to disagree to some extent on the metaphor of Marriage versus Team Loyalties...

After all I've been wed to the Pinstripes by 29 years over Kim....

However, I was a Packers Fan and clearly recall Super Bowl I and II.

Living in Shreveport Luzianna, in 62-63 and again in 66-67, I was the ONLY Packers Fan in Luzianna and no My Dad never watched a Super Bowl in His life....the harassment by all those flipping Cowgirl fans was nothing short of fighting my way thru school, and I loved every moment blow by blow, those fkn cowgirl fans are unbelievable...!!!

 

[Rick2583]

I'd have to disagree to some extent on the metaphor of Marriage versus Team Loyalties...

After all I've been wed to the Pinstripes by 29 years over Kim....

However, I was a Packers Fan and clearly recall Super Bowl I and II.

Living in Shreveport Luzianna, in 62-63 and again in 66-67, I was the ONLY Packers Fan in Luzianna and no My Dad never watched a Super Bowl in His life....the harassment by all those flipping Cowgirl fans was nothing short of fighting my way thru school, and I loved every moment blow by blow, those fkn cowgirl fans are unbelievable...!!!

Okay look at it this way, I'm a Yankee fan first & a Giant fan 2nd, are the Yankees going to take me to court & financially rape me. Like I said, marriage & sports a REALLY dumb analogy. No offense Rob this was mainly directed at Tom who I thought was brighter then he's appearing in this thread.