OT The Government Has No Plan for Reuniting the Immigrant Families It Is Tearing Apart

[SlyPokerDog]

Oh look Moreno hypocrisy. This has been going on even when Obama was in office but that’s ignored. Go figure. Let me guess everybody here cares about the atrocities going ok around the world then? How many innocent people we have bombed through the last 18 years? Do you care? That’s what I thought.

I've always been against the bombing of illegal aliens.

 

[riverman]

Let me guess everybody here cares about the atrocities going ok around the world then?

Well Trump ended funding for doctors without borders and most international relief aid.....so he doesn't give a shit...think he called them shithole countries...you can applaud but I'll pass...I've donated to the Dalai Lama's disaster relief organization for over 20 years...first responders to most disaster victims..you ever contribute or volunteer?. Habitat for Humanity I've also contributed to
Tsi Chi Foundation

 

[oldfisherman]

Well Trump ended funding for doctors without borders and most international relief aid.....so he doesn't give a shit...think he called them shithole countries...you can applaud but I'll pass

I don't like ending the funding for doctors without borders.

However much of international relief aid ends up in the hands of the corrupt, not the people that really need it.

 

[riverman]

However much of international relief aid ends up in the hands of the corrupt,

apparently so does a lot of our campaign funding here at home

 

[Lanny]

To a certain extent. A bunch of guys I work with were at a party. One of them danced with a girl. Afterwards the others made fun of him for dancing with a transgender. He supposedly attacked the girl and the others had to keep him from killing her.

I have a friend that met a girl in a bar in San Francisco. He took her in a taxi to his home. On the way they made out passionately. He reached for her crotch and found something disturbing. He hopped out of the cab right there. LOL, the surprise of his life.

 

[Hobbesarable]

I have a friend that met a girl in a bar in San Francisco. He took her in a taxi to his home. On the way they made out passionately. He reached for her crotch and found something disturbing. He hopped out of the cab right there. LOL, the surprise of his life.

He didn't notice the adam's apple, eh?

 

[donkiez]

There definitely is a latin machismo culture thing going on. Cross them and the rath of the heavens will descend on you. No one messes with them.

Except in Mexico, they call the enforcers, grandmother.

Never mess with the abuela and never turn down her food.

 

[oldfisherman]

While living in Mexico, I drank many cervezas in the local bars. On one visit I was alone. There were several ladies drinking, but one really stood out. She was better dressed and more attractive than the rest.

I ask the waitress to see if the young lady would like me to buy her a drink. And she did ask.

The young lady sat quietly at her table for several minutes. Then came over to my table and said this.

She thanked me for the kind offer of a drink, but I was not her type. In a very deep masculine voice.

 

[Lanny]

While living in Mexico, I drank many cervezas in the local bars. On one visit I was alone. There were several ladies drinking, but one really stood out. She was better dressed and more attractive than the rest.

I ask the waitress to see if the young lady would like me to buy her a drink. And she did ask.

The young lady sat quietly at her table for several minutes. Then came over to my table and said this.

She thanked me for the kind offer of a drink, but I was not her type. In a very deep masculine voice.

So, you might call your cerveza a real eye opener.

 

[oldfisherman]

So, you might call your cerveza a real eye opener.

Never been so happy to be turned down.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[MARIS61]

You think they came to the US so that they could 'take advantage' of the situation by having their kids taken away?

That seems, I don't know, implausible? What's the gain for them? Do you maybe think George Soros is paying them or something?

barfo

Funny you should ask...

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewsubcategory.asp?id=1237

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...pulist-government-pushes-soros-crackdown.html

Hungary's pro-Trump, populist government pushes Soros crackdown

By Adam Shaw | Fox News

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban is engaging in a crackdown on George Soros' organization. (AP)

Hungary’s populist government is brimming with confidence after a comfortable election win in April, and is pushing ahead with tough policies on immigration and combating the influence of left-wing Hungarian-American billionaire George Soros.

President Trump spoke with Prime Minister Viktor Orban last week, congratulating him on the formation of the new government.

According to a readout from the White House, the two “agreed on the need for strong national borders” and pledged to keep relations between the two countries strong.

While Orban’s Fidesz Party had been expected to win the election, analysts had cautioned that the party’s decision to campaign almost exclusively on the issue of mass migration could hurt its standing as voters’ focus was elsewhere. Allegations of corruption and authoritarianism from human rights groups also risked damaging Fidesz’s standing in the polls.

But Fidesz’ focus paid off, and the party emerged with a strong majority in the Hungarian parliament. Now, the populist government is cracking down not only on immigration but also the influence of Soros, whom Orban has accused of leading a “mercenary army” via his non-governmental groups.

“George Soros had a clear target, to beat this government, to fire this government but that was not very successful, let’s put it this way,” Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto told Fox News in a recent interview in New York.

On Wednesday, the Hungarian Parliament passed the “Stop Soros” bill, including a measure making it illegal for non-governmental organizations (NGOs) to organize illegal immigration into the country. Such organization can range from financial support to the distribution and preparation of information and pamphlets.

SOROS GROUP PULLS OUT OF HUNGARY AS ORBAN GOVERNMENT FLOATS 'STOP SOROS' PACKAGE


The law would punish individuals engaging in such activities with up to 12 months in jail. The government has also floated a 25 percent tax for any foreign funding for NGOs helping migrants.

“This strengthened protection is needed because the mass immigration afflicting Europe is continuous, while the Soros network and the pro-immigration policy of Brussels are creating the threat of attempts to also swamp our country with migrants,” Orban’s office said in a statement.

While the legislation targets any non-governmental organization, Szijjarto made it clear who the government was targeting: “Soros is the number one organizer of such activities.”

Soros is in the crosshairs of the Hungarian government. (AP)

The government’s anti-Soros activities and rhetoric have not gone unnoticed. Soros’ Open Society Foundation has moved its Budapest offices to Berlin after what it described as a “repressive political and legal environment.”

“The government of Hungary has denigrated and misrepresented our work and repressed civil society for the sake of political gain, using tactics unprecedented in the history of the European Union,” Patrick Gaspard, president of the Open Society Foundations and a former Obama White House political affairs director, said in a statement last month.

“The so-called Stop Soros package of laws is only the latest in a series of such attempts. It has become impossible to protect the security of our operations and our staff in Hungary from arbitrary government interference.”

Amnesty International’s Europe Director told The New York Times that the new law marked “a new low point in an intensifying crackdown on civil society and it is something we will resist every step of the way.”

Hungary has long been a pariah in the eyes of the European Union and United Nations, and was one of the few governments to initially push back against the opening of Europe’s borders during the 2015 migration crisis.

But it has also drawn close to the Trump administration and has welcomed some comparisons to the Trump movement -- noting that it has built a fence on the border and deployed troops to secure it. Szijjarto recently met with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in Washington, the first such meeting in six years, where the State Department said they discussed increased U.S. investment in Hungary, as well as a defense cooperation agreement.

The Hungarian government is likely to be buoyed also by Trump’s criticism of more liberal immigration policies in Europe, particularly in Germany.

“Big mistake made all over Europe in allowing millions of people in who have so strongly and violently changed their culture!” Trump tweeted on Monday.

Speaking to Fox News, Szijjarto echoed a similar sentiment and said that shutting down mass migration was not just about economics, but also about security and culture.

"We don't want a post-national and post-Christian European Union. We want a Christian European Union based on strong member states," he said.

Orban’s dominance in Hungary comes as populist and nationalist parties have picked up significant wins throughout the continent.

Italy recently installed a populist government which has taken a tough line on immigration, while in Germany Chancellor Angela Merkel is scrambling to keep her fragile coalition together amid feuds over migration policy.

 

[MARIS61]

What's wrong with the Occam's Razor answer, which is they are coming here to seek a better life?

barfo

Why do they think it's a better life? A country they know nothing about, that speaks a language foreign to them.

That would require an assumption that they view our culture as near Utopian and their culture as a failure or worse, maybe evil.

So bad they turned their back on their own families, friends, and countrymen.

Why would we want someone like that here? How does that improve America?

 

[riverman]

Why do they think it's a better life? A country they know nothing about, that speaks a language foreign to them.

That would require an assumption that they view our culture as near Utopian and their culture as a failure or worse, maybe evil.

So bad they turned their back on their own families, friends, and countrymen.

Why would we want someone like that here? How does that improve America?

You mean you have learned our language and customs since you've been forced to leave your native land for persecution?
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[SlyPokerDog]

Man Arrested for Possessing Child Pornography Hired to Manage Children at Migrant Detention Center

https://lawandcrime.com/immigration...-manage-children-at-migrant-detention-center/

 

[riverman]

The entire world couldn't stomach Trump's cold border snark but when he started getting sued over it and bitch slapped by his wife and daughter...he changed course real quick....#fakeconvictions

 

[jonnyboy]

Hi. My name is Liberal. My group was in charge for 8 years and did a bunch of fucked up shit. Now that we are no longer in charge, we feel these same actions are atrocities, the likes of which we've never seen. Please help us stop danger and scary stuff. The world will end if we don't get our way.

Thanks!

 

[oldfisherman]

Man Arrested for Possessing Child Pornography Hired to Manage Children at Migrant Detention Center

https://lawandcrime.com/immigration...-manage-children-at-migrant-detention-center/

If I posted what was on my mind about this, there would be black helicopters over my house, and the feds would be crashing through the windows.

 

[riverman]

Hi. My name is Liberal. My group was in charge for 8 years and did a bunch of fucked up shit. Now that we are no longer in charge, we feel these same actions are atrocities, the likes of which we've never seen. Please help us stop danger and scary stuff. The world will end if we don't get our way.

Thanks!

you think liberals have been in charge for 8 years....GOP controlled both houses...still does...fucked up shit has been the divorce court in partisan politics forever in this country...no new thing really...when govt works for everyone and has some sensible collective goals stuff will be less fucked up...start with electing leaders who aren't fragile egotists or divisive tantrum throwers...don't vote republican or democratic tickets....fuck em...you want change that's a start

 

[Lanny]

Why do they think it's a better life? A country they know nothing about, that speaks a language foreign to them.

That would require an assumption that they view our culture as near Utopian and their culture as a failure or worse, maybe evil.

So bad they turned their back on their own families, friends, and countrymen.

Why would we want someone like that here? How does that improve America?

It would seem to be a better life if you weren't assured of being murdered. That would be pretty high on my list of priorities.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Why do they think it's a better life? A country they know nothing about, that speaks a language foreign to them.

That would require an assumption that they view our culture as near Utopian and their culture as a failure or worse, maybe evil.

So bad they turned their back on their own families, friends, and countrymen.

Why would we want someone like that here? How does that improve America?

Ummmm.......aren’t all your “points” the very reasons immigrants have come to this country for centuries??? And aren’t they what made America the “great” ideal MAGA is trying so desperately to get back to???

 

[riverman]

Ummmm.......aren’t all your “points” the very reasons immigrants have come to this country for centuries??? And aren’t they what made America the “great” ideal MAGA is trying so desperately to get back to???

I think he thinks MAGA means make America gentile again...I find these real American spouters shut up real fast when a brown immigrant has a 95 mph fastball....

 

[MarAzul]

I find these real American spouters shut up real fast when a brown immigrant has a 95 mph fastball...

Lord! This is about as ignorant as you can post.

Just watched a segment reporting about 1200 recently arrived minors in one camp. 70 arrived with parents the vast majority without. Most of them from Honduras or El Salvador.
Mostly Teenagers. Now my Question is who is recruiting these kid to make the trek all the way across Mexico? Why is it they can enter Mexico? If they needed asylum why don't they need it in Mexico to get there? Apparently we can expect millions to come. Why? Why does Mexico just let them come though unimpeded to the US?

 

[riverman]

Lord! This is about as ignorant as you can post.

nah, I can do much better....I don't like fake posturing against humanitarian hope or disrespect for people no matter where they come from...Maris is a baseball name...I threw that in as pure snark, but you know that. Fear of foreign language is absurd period..assuming refugees abandoned their families and cultures and know nothing about the US before arriving is about as ignorant as you can post..seems you folks not only want a wall, but a moat and castle as well

 

[jonnyboy]

you think liberals have been in charge for 8 years....GOP controlled both houses...still does...fucked up shit has been the divorce court in partisan politics forever in this country...no new thing really...when govt works for everyone and has some sensible collective goals stuff will be less fucked up...start with electing leaders who aren't fragile egotists or divisive tantrum throwers...don't vote republican or democratic tickets....fuck em...you want change that's a start

A third party is actually a viable option now at least, Thanks to dems and republicans picking the two worst candidates ever.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Lord! This is about as ignorant as you can post.

Just watched a segment reporting about 1200 recently arrived minors in one camp. 70 arrived with parents the vast majority without. Most of them from Honduras or El Salvador.
Mostly Teenagers. Now my Question is who is recruiting these kid to make the trek all the way across Mexico? Why is it they can enter Mexico? If they needed asylum why don't they need it in Mexico to get there? Apparently we can expect millions to come. Why? Why does Mexico just let them come though unimpeded to the US?

America recruits them.

My dad told me stories about then he was a boy in Havana, he would do odd jobs to get a little money and then would take his brother to the movies. A bottle coke and popcorn split between the two of them and they would watch an american cartoon and movie. It was that time in the theater where he started to pick up some english and the dream of someday coming to America.

 

[Lanny]

I think he thinks MAGA means make America gentile again...I find these real American spouters shut up real fast when a brown immigrant has a 95 mph fastball....

Use to love to watch Juan Marichal pitch. Near perfect form.

 

[riverman]

Use to love to watch Juan Marichal pitch. Near perfect form.

Some of the best players in history emigrated here

 

[Lanny]

nah, I can do much better....I don't like fake posturing against humanitarian hope or disrespect for people no matter where they come from...Maris is a baseball name...I threw that in as pure snark, but you know that. Fear of foreign language is absurd period..assuming refugees abandoned their families and cultures and know nothing about the US before arriving is about as ignorant as you can post..seems you folks not only want a wall, but a moat and castle as well

My wife is Korean. One time she, I and my sister-in-law hopped a gaming bus to Spirit Mountain. On the bus she talked Korean to her sister. Some busybody ladies began to ridicule them for not speaking English. I laid into those women with both barrels. They shut up the rest of the trip.
I just have a short fuse for ill mannered louts when it comes to that kind of prejudice. Am I wrong?

 

[riverman]

My wife is Korean. One time she, I and my sister-in-law hopped a gaming bus to Spirit Mountain. On the bus she talked Korean to her sister. Some busybody ladies began to ridicule them for not speaking English. I laid into those women with both barrels. They shut up the rest of the trip.
I just have a short fuse for ill mannered louts when it comes to that kind of prejudice. Am I wrong?

My wife is from Taiwan...we speak Mandarin in public all the time.....funny...all the years I lived overseas American tourists never stopped speaking English wherever they went....false sense of entitlement...I've been to Korea several times...our honeymoon was in Naha Okinawa