Politics The Kamala Harris Thread

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Should, but never could happen in our hedonistic society.

Our selfish pursuit of pleasures have no limits. We destroy anything that limits our pleasures, even ourselves.

Heck, we even kill unborn children that are healthy, and growing normally in a healthy woman. Because the responsibility of taking care of that child would limit future pleasures.

Im getting you a tricorn hat and buckled shoes for your birthday cuz this is a level of Puritanism I haven’t seen since reading Nathaniel Hawthorne in AP English.
 
Like an occasional cocktail. About every few months. Guess that makes me a selfish pleasure seeker.
 
I wonder how big of a sin watching sports is…
And masturbating.

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I agree that is was wrong for the Rep politician to kill her dog.

Most people that have these beliefs probably would not even kill a spider in their home. And carry it outside.

It is also wrong to kill children in Gaza, and yet.

Many of these same people believe they are entitled to kill their own healthy unborn child. These people are the worlds biggest hypocrites. And Harris's platform on abortion is just wrong, very wrong.
 
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The key to everything is balance. If you've been married as long as I have you come to understand limits on pleasure as quickly as one learns limits on food consumption or tv consumption, etc....a balanced adult should have healthy parameters and filters. I don't drink alchohol or smoke tobacco for a decade now but you're wrong about commercial tobacco not having as many toxins as pot....it's not even close...what pot has are tars though that will lead to bronchitis or emphysema if smoked too much without filters. You have every freedom to carry all your children to term and refute birth control, etc...what you don't have is the right to dictate what choice someone else makes given their own circumstances which more than likely have nothing to do with pleasure and everything to do with the ways and means to raise a child and nourish it. Not everyone has a healthy environment to be a parent...especially a young teen parent. I don't believe in late term abortion but before a child is formed, I don't consider it yet conscious nor alive...it is a growth in a woman's body for the first few weeks. Sperm is a life form as well...leaving it in a condom isn't murder. Call me a hypocrite but I've murdered billions of my own sperm cells at this point.
 
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The key to everything is balance. If you've been married as long as I have you come to understand limits on pleasure as quickly as one learns limits on food consumption or tv consumption, etc....a balanced adult should have healthy parameters and filters. I don't drink alchohol or smoke tobacco for a decade now but you're wrong about commercial tobacco not having as many toxins as pot....it's not even close...what pot has are tars though that will lead to bronchitis or emphysema if smoked too much without filters. You have every freedom to carry all your children to term and refute birth control, etc...what you don't have is the right to dictate what choice someone else makes given their own circumstances which more than likely have nothing to do with pleasure and everything to do with the ways and means to raise a child and nourish it. Not everyone has a healthy environment to be a parent...especially a young teen parent. I don't believe in late term abortion but before a child is formed, I don't consider it yet conscious nor alive...it is a growth in a woman's body for the first few weeks. Sperm is a life form as well...leaving it in a condom isn't murder. Call me a hypocrite but I've murdered billions of my own sperm cells at this point.
Riverman bringing the thunder saying it better than I can.
 
The key to everything is balance. If you've been married as long as I have you come to understand limits on pleasure as quickly as one learns limits on food consumption or tv consumption, etc....a balanced adult should have healthy parameters and filters. I don't drink alchohol or smoke tobacco for a decade now but you're wrong about commercial tobacco not having as many toxins as pot....it's not even close...what pot has are tars though that will lead to bronchitis or emphysema if smoked too much without filters. You have every freedom to carry all your children to term and refute birth control, etc...what you don't have is the right to dictate what choice someone else makes given their own circumstances which more than likely have nothing to do with pleasure and everything to do with the ways and means to raise a child and nourish it. Not everyone has a healthy environment to be a parent...especially a young teen parent. I don't believe in late term abortion but before a child is formed, I don't consider it yet conscious nor alive...it is a growth in a woman's body for the first few weeks. Sperm is a life form as well...leaving it in a condom isn't murder. Call me a hypocrite but I've murdered billions of my own sperm cells at this point.
Agree 100%, it should be the mother's choice. If Im honest with myself and others, I dont believe in late term abortion but I do get bothered when I think about a fetus at over 25 weeks that can feel pain when they are aborted.
 
I agree that is was wrong for the Rep politician to kill her dog.

Most people that have these beliefs probably would not even kill a spider in their home. And carry it outside.

It is also wrong to kill children in Gaza, and yet.

Many of these same people believe they are entitled to kill their own healthy unborn child. These people are the worlds biggest hypocrites. And Harris's platform on abortion is just wrong, very wrong.
That all depends on if the host believes it's a baby or not.

You don't get to make that decision and neither do I. That's a personal decision.

And history shows that removing and restricting that right results in only negative outcomes for society. Increased crime. Increased sucide rates. Increase accidental death rates. Etc.

Nothing positive.

This needs to be a choice. If we want fewer abortions the only moral way to get that is to educate and empower women.
 
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Agree 100%, it should be the mother's choice. If Im honest with myself and others, I dont believe in late term abortion but I do get bothered when I think about a fetus at over 25 weeks that can feel pain when they are aborted.

Cows are highly social animals, chickens have emotions, and pigs are smarter than some humans. All die to serve a purpose no greater than a Taco Bell value meal. Humans are not special and we should not feel any special guilt for abortions; we’ve been aborting unwanted embryos and fetuses for longer than we’ve had writing. The needs of the individual involved in the choice are more important than a stranger’s comfort with the decision. Putting effort towards eliminating infant and child mortality would be the most compassionate thing to do.
 
Disproportionately black women?

Do they have abortions at a higher rate or was he just being racist for the hell of it.
Framing it in the “welfare queen” lens would make it more palatable to politicians who might not like the thought that their white mistresses couldn’t get much-needed abortions.
 
so far this dude

3. does the worst mountain dew racist joke of all time, audience horrified
2. breaks it down sexual style with home furniture
1. thinks women without children shouldn't vote

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He's already a contender for worst VP pick of all time. I can't get over it. People say Palin was worse but McCain wouldn't win in 2008 if he had Jesus as his running mate and promised to make anime real.
 
so far this dude

3. does the worst mountain dew racist joke of all time, audience horrified
2. breaks it down sexual style with home furniture
1. thinks women without children shouldn't vote

20240725-131014.jpg


He's already a contender for worst VP pick of all time. I can't get over it. People say Palin was worse but McCain wouldn't win in 2008 if he had Jesus as his running mate and promised to make anime real.

But can he spell potato?
 
My grandmother had to have a late-term abortion. Actually, it was my grandfather that made the decision. The doctor told him he either could save his wife or try to save the child. My grandfather chose my grandmother, and they went on to have several other children, including my mother, but I heard it tore him up to make that choice, and that was in a time (1910s) when that happened more frequently.

I don't want there to be abortions, either. However, I also think that there are philosophical and constitutional perspectives that really can't be dismissed in our society. The answer, like the answers to most questions including migration to our southern border, is to address the issue at its source. Women aren't getting abortions as birth control, as some anti-choice or pro-birth people would have us believe. No one wants to undergo any kind of medical procedure if they don't have to, even the simplest have risks. If you want to eliminate abortions, which, BTW, have been going down in our country for years, you need to better educate people, you need to provide better and more affordable healthcare, you need more social programs, you need to be in favor of contraception and work to develop more effective and reliable means of contraception, you need no address the cost of living in this country, so people can provide for children more easily and couples aren't as apt to break up for economic reasons -- either wages have to be brought up or prices have to be reduced -- and you have to do your part and then some to change the social/verbal tenor in this country where people currently think it's OK to trash anyone or anything that's not them without hesitation and in total ignorance.

Obviously, some of those things cost money. If you truly are pro-life, though, should that matter?

For that matter, if you truly are pro-life, why would you have any issue with any of those things? They not only would diminish the amount of abortions, they would also make a better quality of life for the living and probably result in longer, happier lives.

I'm reminded of a talk I had with a neighbor about eight years ago, a woman very proud of her evangelical Christian mindset that guides her life. I posted to her what I posted above here, and her response was that we shouldn't do those things because the dime out of every paycheck to fund it was unfair to ask and we have, her words, not mine, "too many freeloaders in our country already."

Yep. Just bring up paying for a social program and all those beautiful unborn babies turned into freeloaders even before they were born, let alone before they were 18.

To me, that's the real height of hypocrisy. It's claiming you are for the baby and yet not having a lick of concern for the person it because once it emerges from the womb. It's saying you want to diminish abortions but only being willing to do that through a government ban.

For more than 50 years, alternatives to enacting laws to restrict or eliminate abortions were available, and yet the pro-life movement never was willing to move an inch toward them or compromise in any way. To me, that makes it complicit in every abortion that took place since Roe v Wade. If the unborn life matters, every unborn life matters, and every method to save it should be pursued, otherwise, it's just a talking point, a cheap political trick. If you want to decrease/end abortions but only are willing to do it in your own unique, most-extreme way, then you must live with what you say are the blood of the innocents you want to attribute solely to others being on your hands, too, because you had the means to make it happen but were too worried about your wallet or dogma to negotiate, compromise and make it happen.
 

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