The Maynor "problem"

[Blazinaway]

he's playin so damn well that he may get a significant offer as an RFA, possibly pricing him out of our price range

 

[magnifier661]

he's playin so damn well that he may get a significant offer as an RFA, possibly pricing him out of our price range

We must pay. This could be a first time our team has had a solid pg rotation.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

We must pay. This could be a first time our team has had a solid pg rotation.

Agreed. Pay to play.

 

[Blazinaway]

We must pay. This could be a first time our team has had a solid pg rotation.

so if so someone offers him 6 mil per U suggest we match?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

We must pay. This could be a first time our team has had a solid pg rotation.

If the Blazers were really serious about having a solid pg rotation they'd bring back Nate and Steve Blake.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

so if so someone offers him 6 mil per U suggest we match?

Yes. Lillard needs the help, and we'll be set in our three-guard lineup for the next half-decade.

 

[magnifier661]

so if so someone offers him 6 mil per U suggest we match?

I would.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Let's not get carried away yet.

8.5 PTS
50.0% FG
41.6% 3FG
75% FT
5.2 AST
2.0 TO

is right about a 3.28 MIL player which is his QO. It certainly isn't over a MLE-player at this point. This isn't to say I don't think he is valuable. In fact I say he is more valuable to us then anyone else.

 

[Natebishop3]

This is pretty much what I posted in another thread. He's driving the price up, and I think the guy could probably start for at least a third of the teams in the league.

He's an RFA (if we choose to tender him an offer), so he's ours to lose. If we decide to keep him at almost any price, we might be stuck with Hickson because he's the only one we'll be able to go over the cap to sign.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Let's not get carried away yet.

8.5 PTS
50.0% FG
41.6% 3FG
75% FT
5.2 AST
2.0 TO

is right about a 3.28 MIL player which is his QO. It certainly isn't over a MLE-player at this point.

Which just tells us that no GM (...Kahn got fired, right?) would overpay for a Blazer backup PG.

 

[Blazinaway]

This is pretty much what I posted in another thread. He's driving the price up, and I think the guy could probably start for at least a third of the teams in the league.

He's an RFA (if we choose to tender him an offer), so he's ours to lose. If we decide to keep him at almost any price, we might be stuck with Hickson because he's the only one we'll be able to go over the cap to sign.

think about a team like Utah, likely desperate for a PG next yr, Maynor is only 25 and actually they drafted him

 

[magnifier661]

I think he would get around 4 million. It's a good contract. I think maynor should get it if he keeps this up.

 

[Blazinaway]

Which just tells us that no GM (...Kahn got fired, right?) would overpay for a Blazer backup PG.

revenge of Utah? it was because of our offer for Milsap that they gave Maynor away to OKC for cap savings

 

[Natebishop3]

How much is too much for Maynor?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Sounds like the consensus is 6mil/yr for 4 years.

 

[Hobbesarable]

I think he would get around 4 million. It's a good contract. I think maynor should get it if he keeps this up.

He may get more than that if he keeps improving. PG is one of the hardest positions to fill in the NBA.

 

[Natebishop3]

There's a few guards available this summer, but not many that aren't RFA.

Chris Paul L.A. Clippers $17,779,458
Brandon Jennings Milwaukee Bucks $3,179,493 $4,330,469 Q
Tyreke Evans Sacramento Kings $5,251,825 $6,927,157 Q
Kyle Lowry Toronto Raptors $5,750,000 $6,210,000 N
Rodney Stuckey Detroit Pistons $8,500,000 $8,500,000 N
Jeff Teague Atlanta Hawks $2,433,077 $3,469,568 Q
Chauncey Billups L.A. Clippers $4,000,000
Darren Collison Dallas Mavericks $2,319,344 $3,342,175 Q
Mo Williams Utah Jazz $8,500,000
Jose Calderon Toronto Raptors $10,561,982
Jarrett Jack Golden State Warriors $5,400,000
Devin Harris Atlanta Hawks $8,500,000
D.J. Augustin Indiana Pacers $3,500,000
Aaron Brooks Sacramento Kings $3,250,000 $3,396,250 P
Mario Chalmers Miami Heat $4,000,000 $4,000,000 T
CJ Watson Brooklyn Nets $992,680 $1,037,351 P
Eric Maynor Oklahoma City Thunder $2,338,721 $3,351,387 Q
Isaiah Thomas Sacramento Kings $762,195 $884,293 N
Greivis Vasquez New Orleans Hornets $1,191,240 $2,150,188 T
Toney Douglas Houston Rockets $2,067,880 $3,101,820 Q
Shaun Livingston Washington Wizards $1,038,447 *
Daniel Gibson Cleveland Cavaliers $4,792,332
Jerryd Bayless Memphis Grizzlies $3,000,000 $3,135,000 P
Nate Robinson Chicago Bulls $1,146,337
Charles Jenkins Golden State Warriors $762,195 $1,084,293 Q
John Lucas Toronto Raptors $1,500,000 $1,567,500 T
Rodrigue Beaubois Dallas Mavericks $2,227,333 $3,271,952 Q
Beno Udrih Milwaukee Bucks $7,372,200
Chris Duhon L.A. Lakers $3,500,000 $3,750,000 N
A.J. Price Washington Wizards $885,120
Will Bynum Detroit Pistons $3,250,000
Patty Mills San Antonio Spurs $1,085,120 $1,133,950 P
Darius Morris L.A. Lakers $962,195 $1,202,744 Q
Nolan Smith Portland Trail Blazers $1,365,720
Earl Watson Utah Jazz $2,300,000
Royal Ivey Philadelphia 76ers $1,223,166
Donald Sloan Cleveland Cavaliers $762,195 $1,084,293 Q
Jamaal Tinsley Utah Jazz $1,352,181 *
Sebastian Telfair Phoenix Suns $1,567,500
Julyan Stone Denver Nuggets $762,195 $1,084,293 Q
Pablo Prigioni New York Knicks $473,604 $988,872 Q
Ben Hansbrough Indiana Pacers $473,604 $988,872 Q*
Scott Machado Houston Rockets $473,604 $788,872 N
Diante Garrett Phoenix Suns $473,604-N $988,872 Q

 

[KeepOnRollin]

This isn't something new for Maynor guys.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/maynoer01.html

Check his per 36's. He has always been this player he is just getting more minutes here. So if you are really worried about it then you just cut back his minutes a bit.

 

[Blazinaway]

or? we've seen enough, we limit his minutes cause we want him, go for the 12th pick as well and don't drive up his value anymore. I know that won't happen but I can wish.

 

[BBert]

He's an RFA (if we choose to tender him an offer), so he's ours to lose. If we decide to keep him at almost any price, we might be stuck with Hickson because he's the only one we'll be able to go over the cap to sign.

I was thinking the same thing. Except for the stuck with Hickson part. I think if Maynor's expected price goes up to a certain point, we may have to make the offer to Hickson, killing the rest of our cap space, to be able to sign and trade him. Even if we didn't trade him this summer, we could still trade him next year. No worries. Olshey's got this.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

If I was Olshey and I felt like I really had something special in a three-guard rotation with Lillard, Maynor and Matthews, *and* I really liked Hickson's offensive spunk, I'd think about trading LMA, Leonard, Freeland, Babbitt, whoever for a Marc Gasol. Memphis is in a unique position where Z-Bo ain't getting any younger, and they don't really use Marc to his fullest.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

If I was Olshey and I felt like I really had something special in a three-guard rotation with Lillard, Maynor and Matthews, *and* I really liked Hickson's offensive spunk, I'd think about trading LMA, Leonard, Freeland, Babbitt, whoever for a Marc Gasol. Memphis is in a unique position where Z-Bo ain't getting any younger, and they don't really use Marc to his fullest.

How are Z-Bo and LMA going to play better together then Hickson and LMA? Really you could say that Hickson has been 90% of Z-Bo this year.

 

[Natebishop3]

If I was Olshey and I felt like I really had something special in a three-guard rotation with Lillard, Maynor and Matthews, *and* I really liked Hickson's offensive spunk, I'd think about trading LMA, Leonard, Freeland, Babbitt, whoever for a Marc Gasol. Memphis is in a unique position where Z-Bo ain't getting any younger, and they don't really use Marc to his fullest.

I'm not opposed to trading Aldridge because I think Hickson duplicates a lot of the same skills, with a higher rebounding average and a much higher FG%. I also think Aldridge would bring more in trade.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

How are Z-Bo and LMA going to play better together then Hickson and LMA? Really you could say that Hickson has been 90% of Z-Bo this year.

Not my problem, because I'll have Marc Gasol.

But yeah, it's a tough proposition to try and pry someone that good off of Memphis. However, the way NOVoodoo tells it, they barely use him to his full Sabas-like potential. Maybe they'd rather have LMA and the flexibility to deal Z-Bo for someone else? I can dream.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I'm not opposed to trading Aldridge because I think Hickson duplicates a lot of the same skills, with a higher rebounding average and a much higher FG%. I also think Aldridge would bring more in trade.

That's really the crux... if you felt really good about Hickson (and his defensive liabilities) at PF, and knew you'd get a Top-5 center in return for LMA, you trade LMA. Olshey traded Eric Gordon. He's not afraid to shake shit up if the reward is right.

 

[Natebishop3]

That's really the crux... if you felt really good about Hickson (and his defensive liabilities) at PF, and knew you'd get a Top-5 center in return for LMA, you trade LMA. Olshey traded Eric Gordon. He's not afraid to shake shit up if the reward is right.

The thing is, Aldridge isn't even a good defender. He's better than Hickson, but that's not saying much. Maybe try to deal Aldridge to a team with a little cap space this summer and free up some more room to make a run at Mayo or Redick.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Is JJ Reddick going to be a UFA or RFA this summer?

 

[BBert]

I love our core, but the only truly untouchable on this team is Lillard. Anything is possible.

 

[Blazinaway]

I do think trading LMA has to at least be explored if we can get a C we want and perhaps added value. For example would you consider Asik from HOU? and then add players like T Rob and/or someone else (Parsons?), and/or a pick? just throwin ideas out

 

[Blazinaway]

Is JJ Reddick going to be a UFA or RFA this summer?

UFA and he wants too much dinero - pass