The New Gm and Coaches: Experienced Pros or Retreads ?

[Stevenson]

Danny Ferry can make a trade, but I don't like who he trades for. And Bernie Bickerstaff and and Jim Lynam? The potential new regime stinks of PatterNash to me. Me no likey. I think KP, Demompolous and Co. were a better fit.

 

[maxiep]

100% correct. I applaud and rep you for taking a global view and addressing the subject directly.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Lynam and Bickerstaff seem to be perrenial "assistant coaches" who end up being head coaches when a team fires their head coach. Then they suck for about 2-3 year before getting fired. its kind of cyclical.

Danny Ferry, Lynam and Bickerstaff just seem to be guys bad franchises have hired in the past. Yet, when they come here they'll be magically experienced?

Bickerstaff is 412-512. He was fucking horrendous in charlotte.

Lynam is 328-392. I just remember hearing about he always get fired.

They just all seem like old school basketball losers.

 

[hasoos]

Lynam and Bickerstaff seem to be perrenial "assistant coaches" who end up being head coaches when a team fires their head coach. Then they suck for about 2-3 year before getting fired. its kind of cyclical.

Danny Ferry, Lynam and Bickerstaff just seem to be guys bad franchises have hired in the past. Yet, when they come here they'll be magically experienced?

Bickerstaff is 412-512. He was fucking horrendous in charlotte.

Lynam is 328-392. I just remember hearing about he always get fired.

They just all seem like old school basketball losers.

They are being brought in as assistants, not head coaches. There are a ton of guys in this league who are great assistant coaches but are unable to cut the mustard as a head coach. That is because the responsibilities are much different. I would also point out, that the teams that these guys have coaches, haven't exactly been star laden. In order to succeed in this league as a coach, you have to have talent on your teams. I think if you go back and look at the teams they had and the talent levels they had to work with, they did a pretty good fucking job.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

They are being brought in as assistants, not head coaches. There are a ton of guys in this league who are great assistant coaches but are unable to cut the mustard as a head coach. That is because the responsibilities are much different. I would also point out, that the teams that these guys have coaches, haven't exactly been star laden. In order to succeed in this league as a coach, you have to have talent on your teams. I think if you go back and look at the teams they had and the talent levels they had to work with, they did a pretty good fucking job.

So...how many NBA championships have they ever won? You want winners not pikers.

The thing is, Lynam and Bickerstaff have been long time NBA head coaches and how that translates to successful NBA assistant coaches, I don't know....many assistant coaches on championship teams seem to be "behind the scene" types.

I wonder what the assistant coaches have been like on NBA championship teams. Wasn't chuck person rumored to be on our list..saw he was a l*kers assistant last year....

sometimes assistants are nothing more than defensive/offensive specialists or guys who manage players.

 

[hasoos]

So...how many NBA championships have they ever won? You want winners not pikers.

The thing is, Lynam and Bickerstaff have been long time NBA head coaches and how that translates to successful NBA assistant coaches, I don't know....many assistant coaches on championship teams seem to be "behind the scene" types.

I wonder what the assistant coaches have been like on NBA championship teams. Wasn't chuck person rumored to be on our list..saw he was a l*kers assistant last year....

sometimes assistants are nothing more than defensive/offensive specialists or guys who manage players.

What does the having to win a championship have anything to do with it? Most of the NBA assistants haven't won a title, because most of the titles have gone to a few teams over the last couple of decades. Does that make them bad coaches? No. Would you call Jerry Sloan a shitty coach? He hasn't won a title either.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

What does the having to win a championship have anything to do with it? Most of the NBA assistants haven't won a title, because most of the titles have gone to a few teams over the last couple of decades. Does that make them bad coaches? No. Would you call Jerry Sloan a shitty coach? He hasn't won a title either.

No but he has sustained excellence. Bickerstaff and Lynam are perennial NBA losers. Maybe they were on bad teams, big deal. you only look at the big picture...do they win in their capacity. There are about a half dozen of these types in the league...old school, NBA old boys network types who seem to have some basketball knowledge but never seem to translate that to wins. They get fired every few years and are on a carousel for some reason...maybe name recongintion or experience coaching.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

What are Lynam's and Bickerstaff's strengths? some guys are good at developing good players. Some are good at managing egos. Some are good at defense. some are good at rebounding.

Maybe they're good at coaching teams with no talent adequately?

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I think KP, Demompolous and Co. were a better fit.

They were. But they had an agent who Vulcan will not accept. And this isn't about winning to Vulcan. It's about control, manipulation and revenge.

 

[STOMP]

anyone know who Michael Born's agent is?

STOMP

 

[Idog1976]

They were. But they had an agent who Vulcan will not accept. And this isn't about winning to Vulcan. It's about control, manipulation and revenge.

You mean the same agent leaking stories and trying to stage a coup?!?! WTF people? Defend KP all you want I like KP but his agent was a piece of shit according to all sources including personal testimony from forum members. Let me be clear fuck Vulcan. But fuck KP's agent too if not more so for overreaching and general douchebaggery.

If I had to blame one person for this debacle it's that piece of shit agent.

 

[maxiep]

The issue for me isn't whether or not Bickerstaff or Lynam are decent assistant coaches; they're well qualified. The issue for me is if we stumble out of the gates, one of those two is going to become our interim head coach, and that's like throwing a year away.

 

[Idog1976]

The issue for me isn't whether or not Bickerstaff or Lynam are decent assistant coaches; they're well qualified. The issue for me is if we stumble out of the gates, one of those two is going to become our interim head coach, and that's like throwing a year away.

Well guess they should have fired KP mid-season and moved on with it. This damn GM thing has really screwed things up. I pray to god we resign Oden asap.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Coaches/GMs only come in 2 flavors - raw or retread.

Whether or not the have a positive impact is almost impossible to predict. For the coaches, a lot depends on the relationship they develop with the players.

 

[maxiep]

Coaches/GMs only come in 2 flavors - raw or retread.

Whether or not the have a positive impact is almost impossible to predict. For the coaches, a lot depends on the relationship they develop with the players.

There's a third category: highly desiriable. I wouldn't call Gregg Popovich a "retread".

 

[Idog1976]

There's a third category: highly desiriable. I wouldn't call Gregg Popovich a "retread".

That's like saying a three way with Megan Fox and Laticia Casta (Circa 2000) is "highly desirable".

I think you mean, worth a kidney and two limb+ donation to achieve.

 

[oldmangrouch]

There's a third category: highly desiriable. I wouldn't call Gregg Popovich a "retread".

That's like saying a three way with Megan Fox and Laticia Casta (Circa 2000) is "highly desirable".

I think you mean, worth a kidney and two limb+ donation to achieve.

Uh-huh. Which is more likely - Pops coaching the Blazers, or Idog redefining the term "getting lucky!"