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As a group, the batting stats of MLB pitchers were once again laughable.
They've actually managed to lower their BA/OBP/OPS....
...and stole two bases! (2/3)

2014 season:
AB 4746
K 2011
BA .122
OBP .153
SLG .152

2013 season:
AB 4732
K 2013
BA .132
OBP .164
SLG .169
SB 8

I prefer the DH but I understand the NL accepts those numbers because they believe using more pinch hitters and "double switches" adds to the game.

MLB would like to address the pace (time) of games and cannot be thrilled with 3 hour games combined with lower scoring.
Bad recipe.

IMHO, get the pitchers the heck out of the batter's box, allow a maximum of two pitching changes in an inning (or require a relief pitcher to face at least two batters before removing him), only one visit per inning to the pitcher's mound by the catcher or any other defensive player.
And batters can step out of the batter's box just once....maybe not at all.
 
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Me-thinks you've picked up one too many ideas from watching to much Tee-Ball......:jugle::lol:
 
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From Tom Verducci - Sports Illustrated:

Perhaps an even better idea ... is the three-batter minimum, which would slow the parade of relievers. Maybe the least aesthetic baseball game ever played was a 4-3 win by the Houston Astros over the New York Mets on April 30, 2012. More aptly, it was a game between Brad Mills and Terry Collins, the two managers. They used 11 pitchers to get the last 16 outs. It is the only game in history in which seven pitchers faced only one batter. Nobody bought a ticket so they could watch Mills and Collins, but that's what they got. What fun.

Indeed, 30 years ago, the average team used 15 pitchers for the entire season; in 2014, it was 23. The final two or three innings of close games have become a turnstile of dominant relievers -- there were 29 relievers last year who pitched at least 30 innings with an ERA under 2.00, and 98 with an ERA under 3.00, and 101 who allowed a batting average under .230 -- who only rarely give up runs and rarely blow leads.

Those around the office here have heard me arguing for this rule for years. The incessant pitching changes slow the game down and have helped cause the decrease in scoring. Teams carry 12 or even 13 pitchers, so stocked bullpens mean fewer players available on the bench, which helps managers get even more matchup advantages out of the bullpen. People complain about designated hitters who don't have to play the field; isn't a pitcher who has to face only one or two batters even more one-dimensional?





Well said Tom!
 
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blgridesagain said:
From Tom Verducci - Sports Illustrated:

Perhaps an even better idea ... is the three-batter minimum, which would slow the parade of relievers. Maybe the least aesthetic baseball game ever played was a 4-3 win by the Houston Astros over the New York Mets on April 30, 2012. More aptly, it was a game between Brad Mills and Terry Collins, the two managers. They used 11 pitchers to get the last 16 outs. It is the only game in history in which seven pitchers faced only one batter. Nobody bought a ticket so they could watch Mills and Collins, but that's what they got. What fun.

Indeed, 30 years ago, the average team used 15 pitchers for the entire season; in 2014, it was 23. The final two or three innings of close games have become a turnstile of dominant relievers -- there were 29 relievers last year who pitched at least 30 innings with an ERA under 2.00, and 98 with an ERA under 3.00, and 101 who allowed a batting average under .230 -- who only rarely give up runs and rarely blow leads.

Those around the office here have heard me arguing for this rule for years. The incessant pitching changes slow the game down and have helped cause the decrease in scoring. Teams carry 12 or even 13 pitchers, so stocked bullpens mean fewer players available on the bench, which helps managers get even more matchup advantages out of the bullpen. People complain about designated hitters who don't have to play the field; isn't a pitcher who has to face only one or two batters even more one-dimensional?





Well said Tom!
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I have no doubt MLB will always be looking for any method to keep Fans attention spans beyond half a game. Offense does just that, tho' I like watching a No-Hitter, as much as a 6 HR game....

Not saying, more is necessary, perhaps a few tweaks, yet I really doubt MLB will ever go with the 3 batter minimum. Tho' I get what your saying in this way. Remember the 86 ALCS, when the Halos were on top considerably, with 2 outs in the 9th inning, and the complete game Pitcher, Bobby Witt, had 2 strikes on the batter, and WAS PULLED, for one reliever after another, who lost that game, costing the Halos a Series entry. Hell the Posse of Police on Horseback were already out on the field in foul territory to prevent fans from running out to the field, only 1 STRIKE AWAY from the final out.

Gene Mauch may of had some great moments, yet His Career will forever be haunted by this bad choice of a bullshit move. I was screaming to the TV as if I was hoping Mauch could hear the 90,000 fans at the ball park. (then a full ring stadium used by the Rams also)....and again Mauch made some major errors and mistakes prior and even as a Phillies member, costing them a shot at a Series....Gene "I can't make the right decision ever" Mauch......I sure as hell don't miss the old man. At one point I admired his tenacity, tho' it got the better of him, more than once.
 
I'd also rather have the option to watch some NL games, without the DH, as I do enjoy more, the AL with DH'ers.

I'd not want to see either change, or find unity in how both leagues it now the same, like implementing the DH in the NL. I like both Lgs, just like they are.
 
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I'd also rather have the option to watch some NL games, without the DH, as I do enjoy more, the AL with DH'ers.

I'd not want to see either change, or find unity in how both leagues it now the same, like implementing the DH in the NL. I like both Lgs, just like they are.
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I hear ya. You know, there is no rule against sac bunting, defensive replacements or pinch hitters in the DH/AL. lol

I just find watching pitcher's "hit" and being asked to constantly sac bunt , or removed from a game while they're pitching well for a pinch hitter basically because THEY CAN'T HIT, both obscene and counter productive.

Yeah I know....there are some pitchers who can hit....but I wonder what NL GMs really think about the prospect of one of their top aces getting plunked on the hand/wrist area with a pitch while at bat or pulling a hamstring running the bases?

After all, that is NOT why or how they negotiate their contracts.
Think the Dodgers cared if Sandy Koufax ever got a hit?

We've discussed this before.....but I really wish I could give NL GMs truth serum and ask them what they really think about their pitchers getting injured with a pitched ball or sliding into a base. Okay guys...speak up...lol
 
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