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Here's my "get 'em vaccinated" plan:
  1. Rationally explain the high risk of getting, and dangers of dying from Covid, along with the horrors of long-haul Covid.
  2. Remind them that they all got vaccines when they were little and as a result, they didn't get Polio, or Dypytheria, or Mumps, Scarlett Fever, etc.
  3. Show how these Covid vaccines are actually even safer than those, and have been thoroughly tested.
They will see that getting vaccinated will save their lives, help the economy, reopen the country, and end the pandemic.

Oh, wait, damn, that requires rational, logical thought on their part, unaffected by thought poison.

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Plan B: Prove Darwin right once again and let them get sick or die.
Post of the day.
 
There isn't anything wrong with the article.
Maybe, maybe not, how can I be sure without knowing it's a credible site? If it's a credible story, surely there's a credible site out there that carries the story.
 



nbcnews.com

Virtually all hospitalized Covid patients have one thing in common: They're unvaccinated
By Erika Edwards

There are only three Covid-19 patients at Sandra Atlas Bass Heart Hospital at North Shore University Hospital, on Long Island, New York — a far cry from when the hospital, which is part of Northwell Health, had as many as 600 patients during the peak of the pandemic.

All three patients, who are in the intensive care unit, have one thing in common, said Dr. Hugh Cassiere, director of the hospital's critical care services: They're unvaccinated.

The trend appears to be occurring at hospitals nationwide.

"I haven't had anyone that's been fully vaccinated become critically ill," said Dr. Josh Denson, a pulmonary medicine and critical care physician at Tulane University Medical Center in New Orleans.

It's been the same for Dr. Ken Lyn-Kew, a pulmonologist in the critical care department at Denver's National Jewish Health: "None of our ICU patients has been vaccinated."

Unvaccinated children, too, seem to be at increased risk for severe illness.

"In our local hospitals, the kids that are getting sick are the ones that are not vaccinated," said Dr. Natasha Burgert, a pediatrician in Overland Park, Kansas, and a national spokesperson for the American Academy of Pediatrics.

Thanks to the Covid-19 vaccines, the number of patients hospitalized has plummeted, from more than 125,000 on average in early January to just over 15,000 on average this week, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

"The vaccines are working really well," Denson said. "It's just ridiculous not to get it."


Just over half of adults — 53 percent — have been fully vaccinated.

Critical care doctors have also emphasized the importance of completing the Covid-19 vaccination series.

Dr. Todd Rice, director the medical intensive care unit at Vanderbilt University Medical Center, said the hospital has admitted at least 32 patients who were only partially vaccinated, meaning they'd received one shot or hadn't had enough time after their final dose for their immune systems to develop protective antibodies.

But the overwhelming majority of sick patients in recent months — since the vaccines have become widely available — have not been vaccinated, Rice said.

Breakthrough infections — meaning ones that occur in fully vaccinated individuals — are possible, though extremely rare. If they do occur, it's highly unlikely that a person will need to be hospitalized, according a study posted Friday to the preprint server MedRxiv. (Studies posted to preprint severs have not been peer-reviewed.)

When Rice has seen breakthrough cases needing hospitalization, it was only in patients with compromised immune systems, who therefore likely did not respond as well to the vaccines.

"One of the ones we took care of had cancer, and another was on immunosuppressants for a rheumatologic disease," Rice said.

Lyn-Kew, too, had one or two extremely ill patients who'd been fully vaccinated.

"It turns out they were all immunosuppressed," he said.

Some, he said, had cancer at the time of their shots and did not respond well to the vaccines.

Though the CDC recommends people get vaccinated regardless of whether they were previously infected, Lyn-Kew said some of his hospitalized patients had decided to forgo vaccination because of previous illness — even if they'd never been tested to confirm they had Covid-19.

"They thought they were sick from Covid, but they weren't. And they have the mindset of, 'Oh, I don't need to get vaccinated because of that,'" Lyn-Kew said. "They're gravely mistaken."
 
I get it’s a meme, but taking away someone’s right to vote over a health decision would be incredibly fucked up.
What about getting an education? Our grandparents had to be vaccinated for Polio to go to school way back. As a parent of 2 students and the son of a teacher, I have NO issue making it a requirement to attend school.
 
What about getting an education? Our grandparents had to be vaccinated for Polio to go to school way back. As a parent of 2 students and the son of a teacher, I have NO issue making it a requirement to attend school.

Many vaccinations are already compulsory, so it wouldn’t be a huge stretch. My argument against it would be that A. COVID is virtually harmless to school age children and B. The mRNA vaccine hasn’t been thoroughly tested for long term effects. Most studies have already concluded schools aren't places where a lot of COVID spread takes place anyway, due to children’s resilience to the disease and the fact that transmission is rare when people are asymptomatic, which children almost always are. And C. Denying children an education over a disease that doesn’t affect them will cause more long term societal problems than the extremely low risk of them catching COVID will IMO.
 
Also kids given the vaccine can no longer be considered a food source since the vaccine isn't approved by the dept. of agriculture.

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Many vaccinations are already compulsory, so it wouldn’t be a huge stretch. My argument against it would be that A. COVID is virtually harmless to school age children and B. The mRNA vaccine hasn’t been thoroughly tested for long term effects. Most studies have already concluded schools aren't places where a lot of COVID spread takes place anyway, due to children’s resilience to the disease and the fact that transmission is rare when people are asymptomatic, which children almost always are. And C. Denying children an education over a disease that doesn’t affect them will cause more long term societal problems than the extremely low risk of them catching COVID will IMO.
There are many alternatives to public schooling during high risk pandemics.....one is to homeschool ...another is to hire vaccinated tutors along with other families and split the cost with them for classes held outdoors with safe distancing or in well ventilated spaces. I've tutored throughout my teaching career for families in this manner...if parents value the kids education, they'll pay for it to be supplemented if possible. It's not kids that are the problem...it's their un vaccinated parents that expose children of vaccinated parents to unnecessary risk....as far as LONG TERM effects........it's been less than two years...no pandemics have the luxury of long term anything without millions of people dying over the years to be considered long term testing...England after loosening restrictions now has to go back into total lockdown again....this Delta strain is a motherfucker....hopefully if people are just smart about this we can be back to a more normal life in the fall. It's really simple to just follow some basic guidelines and practices
 
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Germany, where the Pfizer vax was created, has recommended those under 18 not take the shot unless they have underlying medical conditions or obesity.
 
Damn straight. Joke all you want about it
All these freedom dummies and refusing to wear a mask and now denying vaccines, it’s all so stupid. Fascinating too. What happened that triggered their deep fear of losing their freedom and how does a fucking mask scare them so badly. Vaccines work. They’ve saved millions of lives.
 
That's such a shit article.

"Americans are refusing to get the Covid vaccine for many different reasons, but the Biden Admin is pushing for 70% vaccination so they can wield power over the unvaccinated.

This has nothing to do with saving lives.

It’s all about power."

Idiots need a reason to validate their idiocy. They found that reason
 
To me, this seems a bit far-reaching. Dunno. At any rate, sure glad I don't live there.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...city-workers-covid-19-vaccination/5331698001/

San Francisco to require COVID-19 vaccinations for city employees

SAN FRANCISCO – In an announcement Wednesday evening, the city of San Francisco told its 37,000 employees they must either be vaccinated against COVID-19 within 10 weeks of the Food and Drug Administration giving final approval to a coronavirus vaccine, or lose their jobs.

This would make San Francisco the first large U.S. city to require vaccination of all city employees.

"It's quite straightforward – it's my job to protect the safety of our employees; I am exercising my duty under the San Francisco charter to do just that," said Carol Isen, the human resources director for the city and county of San Francisco........
 
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