The Official Kidd Trade Thread

ghoti · Dec 11, 2007

We don't need 25 threads for these. If you are playing with the Trade Checker, just post it in here.</p>

Follow the format. Explain how the trade benefits both teams and note how happy Kidd will be if your trade is made.</p>

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Here's a start.</p>
<table width="100%" class="breakdowntable">
<tbody>
<tr>
<th colspan="2" scope="col">Incoming Players</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td><span class="playername">Acie Law</span>
6-3 PG from Texas A&M
4.9 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 2.8 apg in 20.1 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td class="even"><span class="playername">Lorenzen Wright</span>
6-11 C from Memphis
0.5 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 13.8 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td><span class="playername">Zaza Pachulia</span>
6-11 C / C from Georgia (Foreign)
5.6 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 0.5 apg in 15.2 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td class="even"><span class="playername">Marvin Williams</span>
6-8 PF / SF from North Carolina
15.4 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 1.9 apg in 35.1 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td><span class="playername">Speedy Claxton</span>
5-11 PG from Hofstra
No games yet played in 2007/08</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<table width="100%" class="breakdowntable">
<tbody>
<tr>
<th colspan="2" scope="col">Outgoing Players</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td><span class="playername">Eddie Gill</span>
6-0 SG from Weber State
2.9 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 1.6 apg in 11.4 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td class="even"><span class="playername">Darrell Armstrong</span>
6-1 PG from Fayetteville State
3.2 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 1.4 apg in 13.7 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td><span class="playername">Malik Allen</span>
6-10 PF from Villanova
4.9 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 1.0 apg in 17.1 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td class="even"><span class="playername">Jason Kidd</span>
6-4 PG from California
11.3 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 10.4 apg in 36.8 minutes</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
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Why the Nets do it - They get a young Kidd replacement, some good young bigs and a decent expiring contract. They also get another Williams, which would give them the league lead.</p>

Why the Hawks do it - They get about 20 games better and keep a good core of young players. They can't pay them all anyway. They get rid of Claxton's contract.</p>

How happy would Kidd be? - Not very - but that team has more talent than the 2001 Nets that he brought to the finals, and the conference is still weak overall.</p>
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pegs · Dec 11, 2007

I like this. Lemme try havin fun with this:</p>
<div class="breakdownwrap">
<div class="bluehead">New Jersey Trade Breakdown</div>
<div class="bluebody">
<h3 class="outlook">Change in Team Outlook: +13.9 ppg, +2.1 rpg, and <font color="#ff0000">-3.2</font> apg.</h3>
<table width="100%" class="breakdowntable">
<tbody>
<tr>
<th scope="col" colspan="2">Incoming Players</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td><span class="playername">Luther Head</span>
6-3 PG / SG from Illinois
4.4 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 12.4 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td class="even"><span class="playername">Kirk Snyder</span>
6-6 SG from Nevada-Reno
5.2 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.4 apg in 12.3 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td><span class="playername">Luis Scola</span>
6-9 PF from Buenos Aires (Argentina)
6.8 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 1.0 apg in 19.5 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td class="even"><span class="playername">Rafer Alston</span>
6-2 PG from Frenso State
8.5 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 4.8 apg in 29.9 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td><span class="playername">Shane Battier</span>
6-8 SF from Duke
8.1 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.5 apg in 34.4 minutes</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<table width="100%" class="breakdowntable">
<tbody>
<tr>
<th scope="col" colspan="2">Outgoing Players</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td><span class="playername">Eddie Gill</span>
6-0 SG from Weber State
2.9 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 1.6 apg in 11.4 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td class="even"><span class="playername">Malik Allen</span>
6-10 PF from Villanova
4.9 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 1.0 apg in 17.1 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td><span class="playername">Jason Kidd</span>
6-4 PG from California
11.3 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 10.4 apg in 36.8 minutes</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
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Universe · Dec 11, 2007

<table class="breakdowntable" width="100%">
<tbody>
<tr>
<th scope="col" colspan="2">Incoming Players</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td><span class="playername">Richard Jefferson</span>
6-7 SF from Arizona
25.1 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 2.7 apg in 39.6 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td class="even"><span class="playername">Jason Kidd</span>
6-4 PG from California
11.3 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 10.4 apg in 36.8 minutes</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<table class="breakdowntable" width="100%">
<tbody>
<tr>
<th scope="col" colspan="2">Outgoing Players</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td><span class="playername">Steve Novak</span>
6-9 PF from Marquette
No games yet played in 2007/08</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td class="even"><span class="playername">Aaron Brooks</span>
5-11 PG from Oregon
2.5 ppg, 0.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 1.8 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td><span class="playername">Rafer Alston</span>
6-2 PG from Frenso State
8.5 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 4.8 apg in 29.9 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td class="even"><span class="playername">Mike James</span>
6-2 PG from Duquesne
8.8 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.9 apg in 20.2 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td><span class="playername">Tracy McGrady</span>
6-8 SG / SF from Mount Zion Christian Academy (HS)
24.6 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 5.5 apg in 36.7 minutes</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>

Dark Defender · Dec 11, 2007

<h2>New Jersey Nets</h2>

</p>
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<tbody>
<tr class="colhead">
<th colspan="2">Incoming Players</th>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Pat Garrity</div>
Salary: $3,818,750 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 2.6 REB: 2.0 AST: 0.8 PER: 0.90</td>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Devin Harris</div>
Salary: $3,995,003 Years Remaining: 6
PTS: 13.1 REB: 2.7 AST: 5.4 PER: 16.36</td>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Trenton Hassell</div>
Salary: $4,350,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 2.4 REB: 1.3 AST: 0.8 PER: 4.98</td>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Carlos Arroyo</div>
Salary: $4,000,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 5.1 REB: 1.8 AST: 4.0 PER: 12.34</td>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">James Augustine</div>
Salary: $687,456 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 1.1 REB: 0.8 AST: 0.2 PER: 15.37</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>

Outgoing Players: Marcus Williams, Jason Kidd</p>
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<div class="teaminfo">

<h2>Orlando Magic</h2>
</div>

<table cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" style="clear: both;" class="tablehead">
<tbody>
<tr class="colhead">
<th colspan="2">Incoming Players</th>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Erick Dampier</div>
Salary: $10,590,500 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 4.6 REB: 6.1 AST: 0.4 PER: 15.45</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>

Outgoing Players: Pat Garrity, Carlos Arroyo, James Augustine</div>
<div class="teambox" id="teambox3">
<div class="teaminfo">

<h2>Dallas Mavericks</h2>
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<table cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" style="clear: both;" class="tablehead">
<tbody>
<tr class="colhead">
<th colspan="2">Incoming Players</th>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Marcus Williams</div>
Salary: $1,180,200 Years Remaining: 2</td>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Jason Kidd</div>
Salary: $19,728,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 11.4 REB: 8.7 AST: 10.4 PER: 16.58</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>

Outgoing Players: Devin Harris, Trenton Hassell, Erick Dampier</div>

Dark Defender · Dec 11, 2007

NJ would also get a pick.</p>

Orlando does it because they desperatly need some inside help to help out Dwight.</p>

GMJ · Dec 11, 2007

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<h2>New Jersey Nets</h2>
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<table cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" style="clear: both;" class="tablehead">
<tbody>
<tr class="colhead">
<th colspan="2">Incoming Players</th>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Speedy Claxton</div>
Salary: $6,306,182 Years Remaining: 3</td>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Josh Childress</div>
Salary: $3,631,449 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 12.2 REB: 5.0 AST: 1.1 PER: 17.06</td>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Marvin Williams</div>
Salary: $4,466,040 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 15.4 REB: 5.7 AST: 1.9 PER: 16.83</td>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Acie Law</div>
Salary: $1,927,080 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 4.9 REB: 1.4 AST: 2.8 PER: 7.13</td>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Shelden Williams</div>
Salary: $3,174,240 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 3.2 REB: 2.9 AST: 0.3 PER: 9.19</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>

Outgoing Players: Jason Kidd</div>
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<h2>Atlanta Hawks</h2>
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<table cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" style="clear: both;" class="tablehead">
<tbody>
<tr class="colhead">
<th colspan="2">Incoming Players</th>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Jason Kidd</div>
Salary: $19,728,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 11.4 REB: 8.7 AST: 10.4 PER: 16.58</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>

Outgoing Players: Speedy Claxton, Josh Childress, Marvin Williams, Acie Law, Shelden Williams</p>

<hr width="100%" size="2" />
Why the Nets do this: Amazing young talent will make a team thats fun to watch and set us up for the future.
Why the Hawks do this: What's the point of rebuilding? To eventually win. The Hawks get Jason Kidd without giving up Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, or Al Horford! That's a playoff team right there. They also don't have to give up any draft picks, so they haven't crippled the future of this team. Additionally they get Speedy Claxton's contract off their hands.</p>

Is Kidd happy? I couldn't care less, but I think a trio of Johnson, Smith, and Horford plays better with him than Vince, RJ, (and whoever happens to be at the PF/C).</p>

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Jizzy · Dec 11, 2007

Kidd for Bynum</p>

ghoti · Dec 11, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>
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<h2>New Jersey Nets</h2>
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<table cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" class="tablehead" style="clear: both;">
<tbody>
<tr class="colhead">
<th colspan="2">Incoming Players</th>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Speedy Claxton</div>
Salary: $6,306,182 Years Remaining: 3</td>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Josh Childress</div>
Salary: $3,631,449 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 12.2 REB: 5.0 AST: 1.1 PER: 17.06</td>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Marvin Williams</div>
Salary: $4,466,040 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 15.4 REB: 5.7 AST: 1.9 PER: 16.83</td>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Acie Law</div>
Salary: $1,927,080 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 4.9 REB: 1.4 AST: 2.8 PER: 7.13</td>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Shelden Williams</div>
Salary: $3,174,240 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 3.2 REB: 2.9 AST: 0.3 PER: 9.19</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
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Outgoing Players: Jason Kidd</div>
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<h2>Atlanta Hawks</h2>
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<table cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" class="tablehead" style="clear: both;">
<tbody>
<tr class="colhead">
<th colspan="2">Incoming Players</th>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Jason Kidd</div>
Salary: $19,728,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 11.4 REB: 8.7 AST: 10.4 PER: 16.58</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>

Outgoing Players: Speedy Claxton, Josh Childress, Marvin Williams, Acie Law, Shelden Williams</p>

</p>
<hr width="100%" size="2" />
Why the Nets do this: Amazing young talent will make a team thats fun to watch and set us up for the future.
Why the Hawks do this: What's the point of rebuilding? To eventually win. The Hawks get Jason Kidd without giving up Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, or Al Horford! That's a playoff team right there. They also don't have to give up any draft picks, so they haven't crippled the future of this team. Additionally they get Speedy Claxton's contract off their hands.

</p>

Is Kidd happy? I couldn't care less, but I think a trio of Johnson, Smith, and Horford plays better with him than Vince, RJ, (and whoever happens to be at the PF/C).</p>

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What do the Nets do with the 19 man roster?</p>

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GMJ · Dec 11, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

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<h2>New Jersey Nets</h2>
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<table cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" style="clear: both;" class="tablehead">
<tbody>
<tr class="colhead">
<th colspan="2">Incoming Players</th>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Speedy Claxton</div>
Salary: $6,306,182 Years Remaining: 3</td>
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<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Josh Childress</div>
Salary: $3,631,449 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 12.2 REB: 5.0 AST: 1.1 PER: 17.06</td>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Marvin Williams</div>
Salary: $4,466,040 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 15.4 REB: 5.7 AST: 1.9 PER: 16.83</td>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Acie Law</div>
Salary: $1,927,080 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 4.9 REB: 1.4 AST: 2.8 PER: 7.13</td>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Shelden Williams</div>
Salary: $3,174,240 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 3.2 REB: 2.9 AST: 0.3 PER: 9.19</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>

Outgoing Players: Jason Kidd</div>
<div class="teambox" id="teambox2">
<div class="teaminfo">

<h2>Atlanta Hawks</h2>
</div>

<table cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" style="clear: both;" class="tablehead">
<tbody>
<tr class="colhead">
<th colspan="2">Incoming Players</th>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Jason Kidd</div>
Salary: $19,728,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 11.4 REB: 8.7 AST: 10.4 PER: 16.58</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>

Outgoing Players: Speedy Claxton, Josh Childress, Marvin Williams, Acie Law, Shelden Williams</p>

</p>
<hr width="100%" size="2" />
Why the Nets do this: Amazing young talent will make a team thats fun to watch and set us up for the future.
Why the Hawks do this: What's the point of rebuilding? To eventually win. The Hawks get Jason Kidd without giving up Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, or Al Horford! That's a playoff team right there. They also don't have to give up any draft picks, so they haven't crippled the future of this team. Additionally they get Speedy Claxton's contract off their hands.

</p>

Is Kidd happy? I couldn't care less, but I think a trio of Johnson, Smith, and Horford plays better with him than Vince, RJ, (and whoever happens to be at the PF/C).</p>

</p>
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What do the Nets do with the 19 man roster?</p>

</p>

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Phew, wow totally didn't think about that. Darrell, and Malik are done for. That takes us down to 17...Ok I'll get back to you

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NOMAM · Dec 11, 2007

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Uh-oh.

Real · Dec 11, 2007

<h2>Washington Wizards</h2>

<table class="tablehead" style="clear: both" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3">
<tbody>
<tr class="colhead">
<th colspan="2">Incoming Players</th>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Jason Kidd</div>
Salary: $19,728,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 11.4 REB: 8.7 AST: 10.4 PER: 16.58</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>

Outgoing Players: Vladimir Veremeenko, Nick Young, Antawn Jamison</p>
<h2>New Jersey Nets</h2>

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<tbody>
<tr class="colhead">
<th colspan="2">Incoming Cash</th>
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<td>

<span style="color: red">*</span>Cash compensation received from Washington</p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
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<tbody>
<tr class="colhead">
<th colspan="2">Incoming Players</th>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Vladimir Veremeenko</div>
Salary: $0 Years Remaining: 0</td>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Nick Young</div>
Salary: $1,491,240 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 7.6 REB: 1.4 AST: 0.8 PER: 14.16</td>
</tr>
<tr class="oddrow">
<td width="35">

</td>
<td valign="top">
<div class="playername">Antawn Jamison</div>
Salary: $16,360,094 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 21.4 REB: 10.4 AST: 1.4 PER: 19.55</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>

Outgoing Players: Jason Kidd</p>

NJ gets a first rounder.</p>

pegs · Dec 11, 2007

Why would the Wiz give up Antawn and Nick Young? Especially with Gil there</p>

GMJ · Dec 11, 2007

They can take our Gill!</p>

Nick Young and a first rounder wouldn't be horrible to build around because it avoids the situation of having 2 "Next-Kidds" if we traded for a young PG.</p>

Dumpy · Dec 11, 2007

Because a Kidd-Gil backcourt sounds great on paper. In practice, it would suck, because Arenas would want to control the ball 90% of the time, rendering Kidd virtually worthless, but whatever. The idea would be that Kidd would keep the team afloat until Gil returned, and then t hey'd make a run in the playoffs, and Arenas would then resign. Jamieson is going to be a free agent anyway. I'd like to get Blatche in that deal, but becauseAndray can't be traded until next week, the trade machine won't let us include him.</p>

Then we could deal Jamieson, Nick Young, and a pick to Memphis for Pau.

Thus turning Kidd into Pau and Blatche (!!). Somehow we'd have to get another PG out of it, though.</p>

callmecrazi4 · Dec 11, 2007

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<tbody>
<tr>
<th scope="col" colspan="2">Incoming Players</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td><span class="playername">Ronny Turiaf</span>
6-9 PF from Gonzaga
7.6 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 1.7 apg in 20.3 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td class="even"><span class="playername">Jordan Farmar</span>
6-2 PG from UCLA
9.8 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 2.9 apg in 20.6 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td><span class="playername">Javaris Crittenton</span>
6-5 PG from Georgia Tech
2.6 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.8 apg in 5.9 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td class="even"><span class="playername">Chris Mihm</span>
7-0 C from Texas
4.2 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.7 apg in 13.4 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td><span class="playername">Trevor Ariza</span>
6-8 SF from UCLA
5.8 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 1.5 apg in 13.6 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td class="even"><span class="playername">Kwame Brown</span>
6-11 PF / C from Glynn Academy (HS)
4.3 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 1.1 apg in 21.1 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td><span class="playername">Lamar Odom</span>
6-10 SF from Rhode Island
13.1 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 2.3 apg in 35.6 minutes</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<table class="breakdowntable" width="100%">
<tbody>
<tr>
<th scope="col" colspan="2">Outgoing Players</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td><span class="playername">Darrell Armstrong</span>
6-1 PG from Fayetteville State
2.9 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 1.3 apg in 13.3 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td class="even"><span class="playername">Malik Allen</span>
6-10 PF from Villanova
5.3 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 0.9 apg in 17.4 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td><span class="playername">Antoine Wright</span>
6-6 SG / SF from Texas A&M
9.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 1.8 apg in 31.3 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td class="even"><span class="playername">Bostjan Nachbar</span>
6-9 PF from Slovenia (Foreign)
9.9 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 0.9 apg in 22.1 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td><span class="playername">Jamaal Magloire</span>
6-11 C from Kentucky
2.4 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 0.5 apg in 14.7 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td class="even"><span class="playername">Jason Kidd</span>
6-4 PG from California
11.3 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 10.4 apg in 36.9 minutes</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
</p>

LA would also throw in a 2008 first rounder...</p>

I actually think this deal would work for both teams...we get Turiaf, Farmar, Crittenton, and Ariza plus the 1st which gives us young talent to build on...Mihm and Kwame are filler and Odom allows us to either trade RJ or use as an asset in the offseason in another trade.</p>

LA gets an all pro PG, a solid backup PG, Boki and Wright who would provide go depth on there bench, Magliore who gives them a solid big behind bynum and Allen.</p>

Aurelino · Dec 11, 2007

<h3 class="outlook">Change in Team Outlook: <font color="#ff0000">-12.9</font> ppg, <font color="#ff0000">-3.5</font> rpg, and +1.3 apg.</h3>
<table width="100%" class="breakdowntable">
<tbody>
<tr>
<th scope="col" colspan="2">Incoming Players</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td><span class="playername">Bostjan Nachbar</span>
6-9 PF from Slovenia (Foreign)
9.9 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 0.9 apg in 22.1 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td class="even"><span class="playername">Jason Kidd</span>
6-4 PG from California
11.3 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 10.4 apg in 36.9 minutes</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<table width="100%" class="breakdowntable">
<tbody>
<tr>
<th scope="col" colspan="2">Outgoing Players</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td><span class="playername">Andris Biedrins</span>
6-11 PF / C from Latvia (Foreign)
11.0 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 1.5 apg in 29.2 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">

</td>
<td class="even"><span class="playername">Baron Davis</span>
6-3 PG from UCLA
23.1 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 8.5 apg in 39.4 minutes</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>

Real · Dec 11, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Because a Kidd-Gil backcourt sounds great on paper. In practice, it would suck, because Arenas would want to control the ball 90% of the time, rendering Kidd virtually worthless, but whatever. The idea would be that Kidd would keep the team afloat until Gil returned, and then t hey'd make a run in the playoffs, and Arenas would then resign. Jamieson is going to be a free agent anyway. I'd like to get Blatche in that deal, but becauseAndray can't be traded until next week, the trade machine won't let us include him.</p>

Then we could deal Jamieson, Nick Young, and a pick to Memphis for Pau.

Thus turning Kidd into Pau and Blatche (!!). Somehow we'd have to get another PG out of it, though.</p>

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I've always had this crazy dream of Kidd and Arenas in the backcourt, with Arenas giving up his point gaurd spot to Kidd and moving to two gaurd. It would make sense on paper, because Arenas is obviously one of the top scorers in the NBA.</p>

Imagine a big three of Kidd, Areans, Butler. That's three legit all-stars. Combine that with some solid role players in Antonio Daniels, Andray Blatche, Brendan Haywood, DeShawn Stevenson, Roger Mason, and young talent like Olesky Perchov and Dominic McGuire, and you have a solid team.</p>

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Kid Chocolate · Dec 11, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

I've always had this crazy dream of Kidd and Arenas in the backcourt, with Arenas giving up his point gaurd spot to Kidd and moving to two gaurd. It would make sense on paper, because Arenas is obviously one of the top scorers in the NBA.</p>

Imagine a big three of Kidd, Areans, Butler. That's three legit all-stars. Combine that with some solid role players in Antonio Daniels, Andray Blatche, Brendan Haywood, DeShawn Stevenson, Roger Mason, and young talent like Olesky Perchov and Dominic McGuire, and you have a solid team.</p>

</p>

</div></p>

</p>

Imagine a big three of Jamison, Arenas, Butler. That's three legit all-stars. Combine that with some solid role players in Antonio Daniels, Andray Blatche, Brendan Haywood, DeShawn Stevenson, Roger Mason, and young talent like Olesky Perchov and Dominic McGuire, and you have a solid team.</p>

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GMJ · Dec 11, 2007

I obviously don't follow the Wizards as closely as I do the Nets, but doesn't Arenas get most of his points off his own dribble? Either pulling up for a J or driving to the hoop? I don't see him meshing with Kidd. Carter's a better fit because he's more likely to spot up for a jumper off a pass from someone else.</p>

Real · Dec 11, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

I obviously don't follow the Wizards as closely as I do the Nets, but doesn't Arenas get most of his points off his own dribble? Either pulling up for a J or driving to the hoop? I don't see him meshing with Kidd. Carter's a better fit because he's more likely to spot up for a jumper off a pass from someone else.</p>

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Oh, in that case.</p>

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trad...&cash=17:27</p>

That better than my trade?</p>

GMJ · Dec 11, 2007

Not in my opinion.</p>

Why are you trading RJ?</p>

YiIliian · Dec 11, 2007

The best trade in my opinon is KIDD for SHAQ. It works out! If Thorn is not giving up this season and does not want to blow up the NETS, and Pat Riley wants KIDD, this trade should happen.</p>

SHAQ isn't washed up. Imagine our startingNETSlineup.</p>

PG: Armstrong or Willaims or Gill</p>

SG: Vince Carter</p>

SF: RJ</p>

PF: SWAT WILLIAMS</p>

C: SHAQ</p>

FIRE FRANK, and Put Carlise! Then we have a good chance to compete with the Celtics, and reach the FINALS.</p>

Real · Dec 11, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Not in my opinion.</p>

Why are you trading RJ?</p>

</div></p>

Because you said Areans and Carter would go better.</p>

GMJ · Dec 11, 2007

Welcome to S2 nowright4u! PM me if you have any questions about the site.</p>

And a big negatory for trading Jason Kidd for shaq</p>

GMJ · Dec 11, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Not in my opinion.</p>

Why are you trading RJ?</p>

</div></p>

Because you said Areans and Carter would go better.</p>

</div></p>

oh haha, no no I meant that Carter fits better with Jason than Arenas fits with Jason.</p>

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Real · Dec 11, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nowright4u)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

The best trade in my opinon is KIDD for SHAQ. It works out! If Thorn is not giving up this season and does not want to blow up the NETS, and Pat Riley wants KIDD, this trade should happen.</p>

SHAQ isn't washed up. Imagine our startingNETSlineup.</p>

PG: Armstrong or Willaims or Gill</p>

SG: Vince Carter</p>

SF: RJ</p>

PF: SWAT WILLIAMS</p>

C: SHAQ</p>

FIRE FRANK, and Put Carlise! Then we have a good chance to compete with the Celtics, and reach the FINALS.</p>

</div></p>

Shaq's done and Carlisle isn't an upgrade.</p>

I'm sure Ratner would love to take on Shaq's horrendous contract.</p>

</p>

Jizzy · Dec 12, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (callmecrazi4)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<table class="breakdowntable" width="100%">
<tbody>
<tr>
<th scope="col" colspan="2">Incoming Players</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">