The Official Topic on: IRAN

[ReppinTheD]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (redneck @ Mar 7 2007, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>People have the perception that women in the middle east are treated bad because of the stuff seen on TV. there is a video of a Muslim woman being thrown over a balcony and she's holding onto the railing, and her husband is kicking her until she fell to her death. than of corse a few years ago there was a stoning in Iran that got a lot of international exposure and calls to suspend her death sentence. Also, in most islamic countries women have little to no legal rights.</div>Yeah - the things on TV isnt a representation of how they treat woman - its just a small speck. If I really wanted to - I could easily find things that are much worse than we've seen in a Muslim country. There is plenty of murder, domestic abuse, prostitution, etc to show - that doesn't mean the majority of the country treats woman badly. Also - I wasn't sure what your stance on the issue was...

 

[redneck]

On Iran or the rights of women in Muslim countries?

 

[ReppinTheD]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (redneck @ Mar 7 2007, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>On Iran or the rights of women in Muslim countries?</div>Women in Muslim countries.

 

[redneck]

I think they are repressed, but for the most part everyone in the middle east is being repressed. that whole region of the world seems to be in a "dark age".

 

[ReppinTheD]

Yeah - man, they sure are in the dark ages:

 

[redneck]

Not technologically, but socially they are, especially if you compare it to East Asia, Europe or Northern North America. The Middle east is still a very violent place, they still have blood feuds, civil rights are small to none existant in most countries. Religion and superstition still effects politics, law, and daily lives(it does so in a lot of places but not to the extreme like in the middle east), Sanitation outside the major cities is very poor. though they aren't as bad as central Africa; there is a dark age for you.

 

[MaRdYC26]

you all are such assholes. I cant help it if the gov't on my natvie land is really fukcing stupid.

Thanks for all the respect u assholez

 

[the_pestilence]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ Mar 8 2007, 12:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>you all are such assholes. I cant help it if the gov't on my natvie land is really fukcing stupid.

Thanks for all the respect u assholez</div>but we're disrespecting the countries, not you. The government is the part of the countries the outside world sees and middle eastern governments are full of mentally unstable sociopaths

 

[redneck]

Mardy where you born in Iran? where you parents born in Iran?

 

[ASUFan22]

My parents were.

Talk to me! I don't want to be left out.

 

[redneck]

lol, ok. Do you get pissed off when people talk bad about Iran? I doubt you do,or you have never showed anything to the such on here. Most people on this board who live in America (or Canada) are immigrants from other lands. myself, I'm part Irish, Danish, Luxemborg, and Cherokee; yet I never get mad when people talk sh*t about those lands. why? because I have nothing in common with those places, my ancestors came from there but I don't, I have been to Denmark and Luxombourg; and yes they do suck. I have never been Ireland, but I have read and studied a lot about it, and yes it sucks too. so I really don't know why any gets offended when you say something negitive about a land, when the offended person has few actual connections to that land. One thing I have noticed, people of European and African decent seem to get offended less than people of Eastern and central American decent.

 

[ASUFan22]

I kind of do get angry because most people who talk bad about it don't know what they are talking about. I still have family there and have been there a few times and it's not nearly as bad over there as people think even though I do like it here better. If my Farsi was better and I didn't feel so homesick going away from Arizona, I wouldn't mind living in Iran at all because it's really a nice place. A couple things I hate though, too many pickles in their hamburgers and no Mexican food.

 

[SirLaker]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Mar 7 2007, 07:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Chances are you don't know anything about Iran. Iran is much more moderate than people think.</div>I know enough about Iran to know that they treat their women like sh*t. In their terms, a woman is equal to half a man. In their courts, they need two women to testify against a male. There are alot of problems in that country.

 

[MaRdYC26]

lmao I was just bored and joking around. Im not from Iran...lol.I was just saying that because you guys should really watch what you say, even if you like the country or not, because you shouldnt be bashing some countries that people may be from.Bashing their government is one thing, but their way of life is another. I'm sorry if another country or culture lives the way they do, but that's their thing, and IMO should be accepted.

 

[ASUFan22]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Mar 9 2007, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I know enough about Iran to know that they treat their women like sh*t. In their terms, a woman is equal to half a man. In their courts, they need two women to testify against a male. There are alot of problems in that country.</div>They don't treat their women like sh*t. In everyday life women are treated better than the are here and with more respect.

 

[SirLaker]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Mar 9 2007, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They don't treat their women like sh*t. In everyday life women are treated better than the are here and with more respect.</div>Really...treated better then here? Do you have any points or any conclusive evidence to back this up or are you just saying that? You say they don't treat them like sh*t there but you don't counter what I said about women being half-equal to men and the idiotic rulings with women in the courts as if you think that is ok...

 

[BrewCityBuck]

I think women are opressed in much of the middle east, men are clearly dominant and women aren't nearly as educated or in places of power. There are obviously exceptions (Jordan for instance)...but in general I think women in the middle east are stuck in the position American women were in, in the early 1900's...

 

[SirLaker]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Mar 9 2007, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think women are opressed in much of the middle east, men are clearly dominant and women aren't nearly as educated or in places of power. There are obviously exceptions (Jordan for instance)...but in general I think women in the middle east are stuck in the position American women were in, in the early 1900's...</div>Yup. But that doesn't make it alright. It's just a depressing thought when you think about how women are treated over there. Then again, that is the least of the problems when you are living in fear of suicide bombings, attacks etc.

 

[ASUFan22]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Mar 9 2007, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Really...treated better then here? Do you have any points or any conclusive evidence to back this up or are you just saying that? You say they don't treat them like sh*t there but you don't counter what I said about women being half-equal to men and the idiotic rulings with women in the courts as if you think that is ok...</div>Well, I actually went there and in everyday life they are treated with more respect than here. Men have a more power in government, yes, but we haven't had a women president here either even though they have more options in a political career here. No one really lives in fear of suicide bombing there, they just live a normal life. I don't know how terrible you must think life is over there, but it's pretty good. And new computer games are like 2-4 bucks in American dollars! W00t!

 

[BrewCityBuck]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Mar 9 2007, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yup. But that doesn't make it alright. It's just a depressing thought when you think about how women are treated over there. Then again, that is the least of the problems when you are living in fear of suicide bombings, attacks etc.</div> People in the middle east don't live in fear of suicide bombings. Do you have any idea how big the middle east is? Most people in the middle east have never seen a suicide bombing. Most of the middle east is completely normal/peaceful. Our media only reports the ugly, so people like you assume ugly is all that ever happens there.

 

[the_pestilence]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Most of the middle east is completely normal/peaceful.</div>That is not true. Almost every country in the middle east is a corrupt autocracy with low life expectancy and income and no middle class

 

[BrewCityBuck]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tHe_pEsTiLeNcE @ Mar 10 2007, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That is not true. Almost every country in the middle east is a corrupt autocracy with low life expectancy and income and no middle class</div> I mean more in the way of, normal life, no bombs going off and no anarchy....I know how corrupt and pathetic economicly most middle eastern countries are...I'm not saying the economics and the government are wonderful, but I think Lakersfan has this impression that the middle east is a warzone with bombs at every corner.

 

[SirLaker]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Mar 10 2007, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>People in the middle east don't live in fear of suicide bombings. Do you have any idea how big the middle east is? Most people in the middle east have never seen a suicide bombing. Most of the middle east is completely normal/peaceful. Our media only reports the ugly, so people like you assume ugly is all that ever happens there.</div>People in places like Baghdad etc don't live in fear of suicide bombings? I meant just violence in general but regardless why wouldn't they fear it. Most of the middle east is completely peaceful...yeah right. About watching media report ugly...I don't watch the news because all they do is show the bad to make it look like we are losing and make Bush look bad. Except Fox News of course.

 

[MaRdYC26]

Bush is bad, what do you want them to say?And I gotta agree with BCB, I know what he's saying. Lakersfan is acting like they are dropping bombs 24/7...I mean, yeah, in Baghdad because we are in war there (over nothing) but not in other places.

 

[BrewCityBuck]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Mar 10 2007, 09:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>People in places like Baghdad etc don't live in fear of suicide bombings? I meant just violence in general but regardless why wouldn't they fear it. Most of the middle east is completely peaceful...yeah right. About watching media report ugly...I don't watch the news because all they do is show the bad to make it look like we are losing and make Bush look bad. Except Fox News of course.</div> Yeah, way to pick out Baghdad....I try to defend you Lakersfan, but your completely ignorant and have no idea what your talking about.

 

[ASUFan22]

Gosh, this is the one time when I hate the movie 300 coming out making the Persians look like evil orcs.

 

[BrewCityBuck]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Mar 10 2007, 09:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Gosh, this is the one time when I hate the movie 300 coming out making the Persians look like evil orcs.

</div> Haha, I don't think the public will care generally....awesome movie.

 

[ASUFan22]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Mar 10 2007, 06:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Haha, I don't think the public will care generally....awesome movie.</div>Well the people that already think badly of Iran will see the Persians like that and think of it more and more of an evil country.Fun fact, one of the Kings of Persia freed yall's Jews from Babylon. Praise the Persians!

 

[BrewCityBuck]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Mar 10 2007, 09:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well the people that already think badly of Iran will see the Persians like that and think of it more and more of an evil country.</div> Most people that watch 300 don't know that Iranians are Persian...and probably don't know anything about Persians...I think your safe ASU.

 

[SirLaker]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Mar 10 2007, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, way to pick out Baghdad....I try to defend you Lakersfan, but your completely ignorant and have no idea what your talking about.</div>Alright man...if you think it's completely ignorant to think it is dangerous to live over in places like Iraq etc then you are the ignorant one. When the hell did you defend me? All you do is attack me.