The pass first PG argument

[Mediocre Man]

http://www.scoresreport.com/2011/03/29/what-kind-of-point-guard-was-he/#more-55536

Discuss

 

[crandc]

Looks like most of the best ones are clustered around the equator.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Andre Miller is basically Terry Porter without the 3pt shot... that's interesting and feels right. Also it seems that the current trend among active players is not much different than it's ever been. There are shoot first and pass first point guards. The shape of the data though shows how exceptionally difficult it is to be a "true" pass first point guard; there's a sort of wall perpendicular to the basic trendline that goes from paul down through Cheeks and Rondo down to Magic. After that wall, the pass-first ethose becomes rarified and you only have three "Jedi Knight" examples of pure pass-first point guards ever.

In other words, perhaps we should stop looking for unicorns and take the best point guard, regardless of reputation for shooting or passing, that fits our style of play.

 

[Reep]

Which ones represent the most titles? Magic, Rondo, Thomas, are all on the left center.

But, is the tide turning? Are Westbrook and Rose the new wave?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Which ones represent the most titles? Magic, Rondo, Thomas, are all on the left center.

But, is the tide turning? Are Westbrook and Rose the new wave?

Stockton and Bogues are your left corner. There's a limit to usefulness in the extremes of pass-first land. Sometimes you gotta take the big shot, or take some risks. Magic and Rondo are not afraid to score. Isaiah even moreso, and also fine with risk-taking.

 

[glazeduck]

I think it all depends on the roster-building philosophy...

A solid roster should be setup like a house/home. You need a solid foundation, you need load-bearing beams and walls, you need a sturdy, solid roof, and after that you can fill in the rest however you like.

As far as this draft is concerned, does Olshey want to draft a big, pass-first PG that he can put scorers and playmakers around, or does he want to draft a scoring, play-making PG that he can put role-players around. Just my personal opinion, but if you view Batum and Wes as mid/long-term components of the 'house', their persona (as well as LMA's less-than-killer instinct), Lillard fits better. However I can certainly see the argument for opting for Marshall and putting scorers around him.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

FYI, Ramon Sessions (who just announced he will be opting out and becoming a UFA this summer) has a career A/TO of 2.5 and FGA/A of 1.73 which is almost identical to Isiah Thomas (2.46, 1.75).