The perfect player to bring...

[Blazer4ever]

Rudy Gay.

The Kings would unload his contract for cap-room. A smart, fasciliating, starting 3, considered overrated to the point he's underrated, often takes too much on himself but can also create for others. Plays solid defense, solid all-around numbers, needs a new start.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Rudy Gay.

The Kings would unload his contract for cap-room. A smart, fasciliating, starting 3, considered overrated to the point he's underrated, often takes too much on himself but can also create for others. Plays solid defense, solid all-around numbers, needs a new start.

What is your basis for the above-bolded statement?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Ah, the poor man's Carmelo.

 

[Blazer4ever]

I would trade for him before I'd trade for Melo. And I think the Kings would welcome the fresh start and so would he.

 

[tester551]

I would trade for him before I'd trade for Melo. And I think the Kings would welcome the fresh start and so would he.

Kings aren't going to give him away. They might consider a trade, but it is going to cost a LOT more than I would be willing to pay.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I would roll the dice on RG. I don't love or hate Rudy Gay's game. I do like him more than most on this board.

But I bet that George Karl values him too. George knows he himself is not there for the long run. He needs RG's scoring this year to even have a chance at the playoffs. So I think he will fight to keep him.

Similar to what we said about Cousins.......we will have to wait until the All Star break before we know if Sacramento wants to make big changes.

But if it only took cap space or something like Harkless/Crabbe/ Kaman....hell yes I would the chance on this rotation until we found a young SF.

Dame, Pressey
Henderson, CJ
Gay, Aminu
Plumlee, Leonard, Davis, Vonleh

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I've been tooting the Rudy gay horn since the beginning of the offseason. Id love to have him, but it's not the right time. Let us lose big time this year for that draft pick. We don't want to be middling around the dreaded middle

 

[riverman]

He hasn't exactly put the Kings over the top

 

[0-Our!]

He hasn't exactly put the Kings over the top

Disclaimer: none of this is directed @ u riverman (I believe we're on the same page), this is for the Rudy lovers out there

He hasn't put anyone over the top. Does it make any1 wonder why (again, stated before in this forum & others AND mentioned by articles/other critics/writers) HE LEAVES AND teamS get BETTER? I've seen his "game" & I don't like it; he'd b a terrible fit for us because... he doesn't. I like the guys we have right now way more.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Rudy Gay is to winning organizations as Carmelo Anthony is to winning organizations.

 

[BlazerWookee]

I'd rather have Rudy Fernandez.

 

[0-Our!]

I'd rather have Rudy Fernandez.

Realistically, I'd MUCH rather have Rudy Gobert (but he's pretty much untouchable now).

 

[Blazer4ever]

I think he'd be a very good fit with this team, moreso than with most of the teams he's been with in the past

 

[Jon]

his jersey sales in portland would go through the roof.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I've seen his "game" & I don't like it; he'd b a terrible fit for us because... he doesn't. I like the guys we have right now way more.

Based on our roster, what is our biggest need right now? I realize it is not an easy answer because we have yet to see them all play together. But "on paper".......the glaring need, is a SF who can score. We already have two SF's who can play D, but we don't have any that are good scorers. So IMO he could be a good fit.

Granted it is always difficult to gage how a "scorer" will translate when he goes to an different team. Adrian Dantley and Mark Aguirre were both thought to be bad fits for Detroit when they traded for them for similar reasons. But they ended up filling a need. Vets often learn from their younger days and are willing to adapt their game in order to fit in and win.

If it back fires what is the worst case scenario? We get a better draft pick?

 

[Reep]

He will be 30 by training camp;
He is expensive;
He hasn't helped any team win;
By the time this team is in their window (if they get a window), Gay will be 33-35;

How exactly does this fit with the current plan?

 

[Pinwheel1]

He will be 30 by training camp;
He is expensive;
He hasn't helped any team win;
By the time this team is in their window (if they get a window), Gay will be 33-35;

How exactly does this fit with the current plan?

He turned 29 last week and his salary is only 12 million next year. The original post was based on not giving up anything to get him except cap space. And although I disagree that is even possible, if it was....how does that really hurt us? If it doesn't work out, then we trade him for an asset.

Sure we might get a SF in the draft if we suck. But maybe we won't. Rudy would be a stop gap until we do find one. It's not like we are trading Aminu for him.

Again I think this is a moot point. I doubt Sac gives him away. I am just saying I would do it if they offered. I see no down side except a worst draft pick.

 

[0-Our!]

He turned 29 last week and his salary is only 12 million next year. The original post was based on not giving up anything to get him except cap space. And although I disagree that is even possible, if it was....how does that really hurt us? If it doesn't work out, then we trade him for an asset.

Sure we might get a SF in the draft if we suck. But maybe we won't. Rudy would be a stop gap until we do find one. It's not like we are trading Aminu for him.

Again I think this is a moot point. I doubt Sac gives him away. I am just saying I would do it if they offered. I see no down side except a worst draft pick.

I wouldn't even say this is moot @ best; I don't think the trade will be out there.

I am saying IF they offered... I'd say no thanks. The only players I'd want from Sac. would b Stein & Cousins (not even sure if the rumors/possibilities are there & are the headaches worth it? Cousins is the 1 guy that I'm fickle w/; ask me different days if I want him here & you'll get different answers) & I'm not willing to give up much to get them.

 

[BlazerWookee]

He will be 30 by training camp;
He is expensive;
He hasn't helped any team win;
By the time this team is in their window (if they get a window), Gay will be 33-35;

How exactly does this fit with the current plan?

This?

 

[Orion Bailey]

I've been tooting the Rudy gay horn since the beginning of the offseason. Id love to have him, but it's not the right time. Let us lose big time this year for that draft pick. We don't want to be middling around the dreaded middle

YOU don't want to be middling around in the middle. Many of us see our age and lack of experience and would consider it a win this season if we were middle of the pack. That would mean the players are improving and gelling as expected and will continue to do so based on their age.
This is a rare scenario, where I don't think we need to be last this coming season in order to improve down the road. Again, what is one more draft pick gonna do for us? We have how many in the top 15 already?

I don't understand those that think the next three years will be predicated by tanking and getting a top 4 draft pick. This is as chancey as it is thinking all the new players WILL improve. I just don't get it. Someone wanna try to convince me otherwise? Doesn't add up in my book.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

YOU don't want to be middling around in the middle. Many of us see our age and lack of experience and would consider it a win this season if we were middle of the pack. That would mean the players are improving and gelling as expected and will continue to do so based on their age.
This is a rare scenario, where I don't think we need to be last this coming season in order to improve down the road. Again, what is one more draft pick gonna do for us? We have how many in the top 15 already?

I don't understand those that think the next three years will be predicated by tanking and getting a top 4 draft pick. This is as chancey as it is thinking all the new players WILL improve. I just don't get it. Someone wanna try to convince me otherwise? Doesn't add up in my book.

Dude I have no problem if we are middle of the pack this year with our young guys. If you're middle of the pack with young potential guys that's fine. It's when you bring in older expensive vets and end up middle of the pack that it's doomsday.

If we stay as is and suck, cool, we get a top lotto pick to try and improve us.

If our young guys step up, cool, we have a ton of decent young assets to try to upgrade with

 

[Orion Bailey]

Dude I have no problem if we are middle of the pack this year with our young guys. If you're middle of the pack with young potential guys that's fine. It's when you bring in older expensive vets and end up middle of the pack that it's doomsday.

If we stay as is and suck, cool, we get a top lotto pick to try and improve us.

If our young guys step up, cool, we have a ton of decent young assets to try to upgrade with

Okay, fair enough. I think just about everyone feels that. I see what you mean then. Bring in Rudy, remain middle of the pack, and then we aren't looking as hot for the future.
I think there are some though that think its imperative for us to shoot for the lottery next year and I disagree with that. IF we get the lottery, it will be because no one stepped up and thus need to move on anyhow, so then the pick is good.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I think the Kings would welcome the fresh start and so would he.

Yes, basically everybody but the team he ended up on would welcome it.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Yes, basically everybody but the team he ended up on would welcome it.

Apparently unless you are the USA world cup team who liked him enough last year to invite him back again this year.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Apparently unless you are the USA world cup team who liked him enough last year to invite him back again this year.

USA world cup team is simply a bracket. It is not signing a contract for a player. Apples to oranges ...

 

[Pinwheel1]

USA world cup team is simply a bracket. It is not signing a contract for a player. Apples to oranges ...

I think it is relevant to the post I was responding to. If he didn't play well last last year with the other stars in the NBA, they would not have asked him to try out again. If he can help Team USA, I think he can help Team Blazers.

I get that he is not a perfect fit for our younger players due to his age. But he does possess the skills that this team lacks. He is a scorer who can take over games. He and Aminu would be a great combo at the 3..........imo.

Again I would not trade away our future for him. But we have plenty of cap space and we need scoring from the 3. Maybe I am missing something. Is he a cancer in the locker room? If he is then he would not be worth the trouble. But I have not heard that.

 

[BonesJones]

You get Rudy Gay if you can get another high caliber somewhere else.

 

[Pinwheel1]

You get Rudy Gay if you can get another high caliber somewhere else.

You are saying he has to be surrounded by more high caliber players in order to be effective? I posted the same thing last month, so I guess I have to agree. That is the ideal situation for him.

 

[KingSpeed]

Ridy Gay is to winning organizations as Carmelo Anthony is to winning organizations.

Carmelo took the Nuggets to the WCF and came within 2 wins of the NBA Finals.

 

[KingSpeed]

I've been tooting the Rudy gay horn since the beginning of the offseason. Id love to have him, but it's not the right time. Let us lose big time this year for that draft pick. We don't want to be middling around the dreaded middle

Do you really want ANOTHER young guy? We need to develop who we have.