The Reason I think John Hollinger is a hack

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http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/players/hollinger?playerId=2983

2007-08 season: Aldridge stepped into a starting power forward role and had a breakout season, averaging better than a point every two minutes with one of the lowest turnover rates at his position.

Though he's 6-foot-11, Aldridge is an excellent shooter for his size and gets a lot of his points off jumpers. Nearly two-thirds of his shots came from outside the immediate basket area, and nearly a third of his tries were long twos. He made 40.3 percent of those, which is OK, but he was even better at short-range shots. He took nearly five short-range jumpers a game and made 45.4 percent of them, a strong mark at a distance where many players struggle.

Aldridge is also a low-mistake player who had the eighth-lowest turnover ratio at his position, helping offset a middling TS%. It's possible for him to take that turnover ratio even lower, actually -- Aldridge committed 36 offensive fouls, the ninth most in the NBA and a huge total for a midrange jump shooter.

Scouting report: If this guy were any softer you'd use him to blow your nose. Aldridge has the size and length to be an outstanding rebounder and defender, but he willingly concedes prime post position and allows opponents to push him around under the basket. Given his size advantage at power forward he's also a frustratingly mediocre rebounder, especially on the defensive glass where he was only 40th out of 62 power forwards.

Offensively, he prefers the left side of the floor, taking nearly twice as many shots from there as from the right last season, and especially the left block. When he posts up it's usually for a short-range jumper -- he rarely forces the action toward the basket and consequently has a low free-throw rate. However, he can finish around the rim off of a feed or a rebound and he runs the floor well in transition.

2008-09 outlook: The return of Greg Oden could cut into Aldridge's minutes a bit, as Nate McMillan liked to play small last year and when he does Oden won't be the one sitting. Otherwise expect Aldridge's development to continue apace -- in fact playing with Oden could help him quite a bit because of how many open jumpers he'll get from midrange. Don't expect his per-game numbers to increase, but his shooting percentage might jump.

More importantly, keep an eye on his defense. Aldridge's softness has been his main problem thus far, so his ability to defend in the paint and rebound could be more important to his future than any incremental offensive development.

First off, Aldridge played out of position frequently last year at center, and secondly in what universe does Greg Oden on the low Block and Aldridge in the high post equal less minutes for LaMarcus? I'm not saying there aren't areas for improvement in LaMarcus' game, but if you look at his game last year all he did was get better after the all-star break developing a honest to goodness low post game that had been nonexistent in the early part of the year.

LMA gets so little respect it seems.
 
It's only John Hollinger... no one really cares about he says.
 
Whistling past the graveyard?

I'm a big LMA fan - but he is very much a finesse player. His defense and rebounding are soft for a guy with his size and talent. I never really expexted him to be the 2nd coming of Dennis Rodman on the boards, but his defense has been moderately disappointing.
 
Hollinger isn't a scout, so can't really be taken seriously when he tries to give scouting reports. Or rather, he can be taken exactly as seriously as any random fan.

Where he has some value is his statistical models. Whenever he talks about how a player looks on the floor, or his style of play, it's basically equivalent to listening to Tom Cruise talk about particle physics. Not exactly going to his strength.
 
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/players/hollinger?playerId=2983



First off, Aldridge played out of position frequently last year at center, and secondly in what universe does Greg Oden on the low Block and Aldridge in the high post equal less minutes for LaMarcus? I'm not saying there aren't areas for improvement in LaMarcus' game, but if you look at his game last year all he did was get better after the all-star break developing a honest to goodness low post game that had been nonexistent in the early part of the year.

LMA gets so little respect it seems.

Hollinger said that if Nate plays small ball like he did at times last season, Aldridge might be the one to sit instead of Oden. I think Nate might be more likely to try a really big lineup rather than a really small one this season, but I don't see anything wrong with the statement that if Nate does go small, he might choose to sit Aldridge and play Oden more, although I could also see Nate resting Oden more than we think to keep him from getting in foul trouble, tired or hurt.

Hollinger also said Oden might take some shots away from Aldridge, but would allow Aldridge to see fewer defenders, and therefore get better shots, leading to scoring the same amount of points on a higher FG%. I don't have a problem with that.

The one statement Hollinger made that I could see fans having an issue with is Aldridge being soft. Aldridge shoots more than he posts up and doesn't have huge rebounding numbers, so I see what he is saying, but we've had Joel Przybilla, so we haven't had much of a need for Aldridge to play post defense and get rebounds, and we will have Greg Oden as well this season, so I don't see that changing much anytime soon.

I don't see much to get excited about in what Hollinger said about Aldridge.
 
Is Aldridge a good rebounder or a good defender? No on both counts.

Is he more likely to sit since the center spot should be all filled up with Oden and Przybilla? Yes.

I don't really see how either of those statements is all that controversial.

Ed O.
 
Is Aldridge a good rebounder or a good defender? No on both counts.

Is he more likely to sit since the center spot should be all filled up with Oden and Przybilla? Yes.

I don't really see how either of those statements is all that controversial.
I think it's likely that both Roy and LA average less minutes then they did last year. That won't be a sign of them regressing as players, it's more the natural result of having quality depth.

STOMP
 
You don't sit LMA for a small lineup very often. I have said LMA might end up our best player and I think there is a good chance he is our top scorer this year. I know there are a few poster here that wanted to keep Zbo but LMA numbers were as good as Zbo was last year and didn't have to dominate having the ball to get those stats. I do agree he played a little soft last year but I don't think he will with Oden playing center. I normally don't think Hollinger is that bad but on LMA I don't think he knows what he is talking about and probably could be considered a hack.:pimp:
 
I'm with Ed O. I would watch games last year and basically repeat exactly what Hollinger said while watching Aldridge. It's sort of the truth and hard to argue against that.
 
Glad to see more people realizing that Hollinger knows nothing about basketball other than his derived statistical analyses, which have their own flaws.
 
I like reading Hollinger.

And there is nothing I disagree with in the article. LaMarcus is a low mistake player and a frustratingly mediocre rebounder. Plus his minutes will probably drop because of Greg. We know McMillan likes to use Travis at power forward in the 4th quarter. Do you really think LaMarcus will average 34.9 minutes a game again this year with all the weapons Nate has at his disposal?
 
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I like reaing Hollinger.

And there is nothing I disagree with in the article. LaMarcus is a low mistake player and a frustratingly mediocre rebounder.Plus his minutes will probably drop because of Greg because we know Mcmillan likes to use Travis at power forward in the 4th quarter. Do you really think LaMarcus will average 34.9 minutes a game again this year with all the weapons Nate has at his disposal?

Wow, really? You think that if LMA was any softer, you would use him to blow your nose? Why don't you tell that to LMA?

Hollinger's problem, consistently, is that he lets his personal opinions cloud his statistical analysis. He is a hack.
 
Aldridge is soft. I don't see how anybody can argue that he's not soft.

I checked out his stats on draftexpress.com and he averaged 9 rebounds per 40 minutes pace adjusted. That's the lowest of any PF who got 30+ minutes last season. Just .1 behind Rasheed Wallace. Lower than Gasol, who's famous for being soft.

How often do you see Aldridge mixing it up inside? Throwing guys around? Realling putting his body on somebody on defense? Not very often.

He's one of the softest big men in the game. But being soft isn't a problem, being unskilled is a problem. Aldridge is clearly very skilled, so I can accept his softness. Apparently not that many people around here can.
 
Aldridge is soft. I don't see how anybody can argue that he's not soft.

I checked out his stats on draftexpress.com and he averaged 9 rebounds per 40 minutes pace adjusted. That's the lowest of any PF who got 30+ minutes last season. Just .1 behind Rasheed Wallace. Lower than Gasol, who's famous for being soft.

How often do you see Aldridge mixing it up inside? Throwing guys around? Realling putting his body on somebody on defense? Not very often.

He's one of the softest big men in the game. But being soft isn't a problem, being unskilled is a problem. Aldridge is clearly very skilled, so I can accept his softness. Apparently not that many people around here can.

I agree and being soft isn't as importrant as being skilled and LMA is very skilled. I do agree he is soft especially when playing center but IMO it won't matter as much with Oden in the middle.
 
Let's be honest. Hollinger had a higher opinion of Sheed and Zach than a certain segment of Blazer fandom. To those folks, he will always have zero credibility - even when he says "the sky is blue", "the earth is round", or "LMA is soft!" :smiley-bash:



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LMA IS soft. but i think he is an average defender already. Having Oden will completely nullify this weakness. hopefully.
 
Wow, really? You think that if LMA was any softer, you would use him to blow your nose? Why don't you tell that to LMA?

Hollinger's problem, consistently, is that he lets his personal opinions cloud his statistical analysis. He is a hack.

I must admit that there were times last year that when I saw LaMarcus back off rebounds to avoid contact that I did think he was as soft as a Kleenex. I wouldn't be afraid to say that to LaMarcus but I wouldn't because I like the kid. Just like I liked Rasheed despite playing much the same way.
 
Wow, really? You think that if LMA was any softer, you would use him to blow your nose? Why don't you tell that to LMA?

Haha... why? So they can step outside and settle it like men?

That's ridiculous. Why would telling a player anything to his face mean anything? We can watch the games and look at the numbers and judge a player without ever uttering a word to him.

Ed O.
 
I think it's likely that both Roy and LA average less minutes then they did last year. That won't be a sign of them regressing as players, it's more the natural result of having quality depth.

Agreed 100%. Not everyone in this thread does, though, given that Hollinger is being criticized for predicting LA might play less.

Ed O.
 
Here's a bit of JH's analysis of the Lakers...
At forward, L.A. has an embarrassment of riches. Vladimir Radmanovic, if he doesn't start, is a flaky but dangerous long-range bomber who can play both forward spots, while Luke Walton is one of the best passers in the league. And don't sleep on Trevor Ariza. Though he hardly played last year due to injuries, he's played extremely well whenever he's had the chance, and he could steal a rotation spot with his athleticism on the wing.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dime-LALPreview0809

STOMP
 
Haha... why? So they can step outside and settle it like men?

Ed O.

The quote from the poster was "there is nothing in the article that I disagree with". I challenged that statement, and other than you, no one has answered it, let alone the poster who made the claim.
 
The quote from the poster was "there is nothing in the article that I disagree with". I challenged that statement, and other than you, no one has answered it, let alone the poster who made the claim.

I don't understand what your point is.

You stated that the poster should tell it to Aldridge's face after referencing the "soft as kleenex" statement by Hollinger.

Why would you type that and now state that you were making a comment on a small portion of the poster's response that you hadn't mentioned before?

Ed O.
 
Embarassment of riches? What? Lakers are good and all, but Vlad, Luke and Ariza aren't all that scary to deal with. And I thought Laker fans didn't like Luke.. Odom and Gasol are really good.. but not those three that Hollinger mentioned...

Those are three pretty good bench players to have at the forward spots. I think that even die-hard Blazers fans would be hard-pressed to argue that Frye/Outlaw/any other forward not in the starting lineup brings the same level of talent and experience and current capabilities as Vlad/Walton/Ariza.

Ed O.
 
Those are three pretty good bench players to have at the forward spots. I think that even die-hard Blazers fans would be hard-pressed to argue that Frye/Outlaw/any other forward not in the starting lineup brings the same level of talent and experience and current capabilities as Vlad/Walton/Ariza.
geez... I was thinking just the opposite. I'd rather have Frye and then Outlaw more then any of those guys. They're average at best yet Hollinger is gushing like they're world beaters.

I think they'll probably end up starting Vlad and bring Lamar off the bench... let him be part of a 3 man rotation at the Big spots. I don't think he can keep up with the starting 3's of the league anymore.

how long has it been since a team lost in the finals and the next year came back and won it?

STOMP
 
Those are three pretty good bench players to have at the forward spots. I think that even die-hard Blazers fans would be hard-pressed to argue that Frye/Outlaw/any other forward not in the starting lineup brings the same level of talent and experience and current capabilities as Vlad/Walton/Ariza.

Ed O.

Vlad is one-dimensional.. LA fans I get the feeling from their forum view Luke as our Jarrett Jack.. and Ariza barely played for them when they acquired him last season.
I would take our guys over their reserve forwards for sure.
Their guard depth is more impressive with Farmar, Fisher and Vujacic, along with Kobe.
 
Haha... why? So they can step outside and settle it like men?

Well, that's the perceived problem. LMA is too willing to step outside instead of getting down under the hoop.

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