The SEC Is The Best Football Conference...And Probably Always Will Be

[ABM]

Why?

Simply put, because it/they attract the best (highest profile) coaches. That, in and of itself, attracts talent.

Talent wins, hands-down.

 

[MARIS61]

I wasn't aware they were even allowed to be involved in professional sports.

http://www.sec.gov/about.shtml

 

[ABM]

I wasn't aware they were even allowed to be involved in professional sports.

http://www.sec.gov/about.shtml

Crazy, ain't it?!

Good ol' boy at its finest.

 

[RR7]

I would say there's a substantial difference between high profile coaches, and the best coaches.
Entering this year in the SEC, there were 3 new coaching hires. I would hardly consider John Smith, Hugh Freeze, and Kevin Sumlin "high profile" hires. Not at all like new hires of, say, Mike Leach, Jim mora, and Rich Rodriguez, to compare to 3 from the Pac12.
On top of that, I wouldn't consider guys like Chizik great, aside from his only year with Cam newton. Otherwise looks awfully pedestrian. Is Dan Mullen "high profile"? Joker Phillips?
I'll give you the top few. Miles, Saban, Spurrier, Richt.
But for high profile, I'd say the Pac12 is right there with them. As a conference as a whole? No. Of course, it also seems a lot easier to get ranked, and stay high if you're in the SEC. Oregon State, in the SEC, with 2 wins over 2 top 20 teams, would probably be #5 right now.

 

[Rhal]

Simply put SEC colleges have the whole states Football crazy. There talent hardly ever leaves the area they grow up in. Football is a religion to most of those city/states. I don't think any conference as a whole can compete talent wise but the top teams from other conferences can be on par with the SEC top teams.

 

[ABM]

I would say there's a substantial difference between high profile coaches, and the best coaches.
Entering this year in the SEC, there were 3 new coaching hires. I would hardly consider John Smith, Hugh Freeze, and Kevin Sumlin "high profile" hires. Not at all like new hires of, say, Mike Leach, Jim mora, and Rich Rodriguez, to compare to 3 from the Pac12.
On top of that, I wouldn't consider guys like Chizik great, aside from his only year with Cam newton. Otherwise looks awfully pedestrian. Is Dan Mullen "high profile"? Joker Phillips?
I'll give you the top few. Miles, Saban, Spurrier, Richt.
But for high profile, I'd say the Pac12 is right there with them. As a conference as a whole? No. Of course, it also seems a lot easier to get ranked, and stay high if you're in the SEC. Oregon State, in the SEC, with 2 wins over 2 top 20 teams, would probably be #5 right now.

For the record, I'm a PAC-12 (specifically, OREGON DUCKS) guy, but am just calling spades......spades. It's hard to fight City Hall. In this case, the mecca of college football......da South and East.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I would say there's a substantial difference between high profile coaches, and the best coaches.
Entering this year in the SEC, there were 3 new coaching hires. I would hardly consider John Smith, Hugh Freeze, and Kevin Sumlin "high profile" hires. Not at all like new hires of, say, Mike Leach, Jim mora, and Rich Rodriguez, to compare to 3 from the Pac12.
On top of that, I wouldn't consider guys like Chizik great, aside from his only year with Cam newton. Otherwise looks awfully pedestrian. Is Dan Mullen "high profile"? Joker Phillips?
I'll give you the top few. Miles, Saban, Spurrier, Richt.
But for high profile, I'd say the Pac12 is right there with them. As a conference as a whole? No. Of course, it also seems a lot easier to get ranked, and stay high if you're in the SEC. Oregon State, in the SEC, with 2 wins over 2 top 20 teams, would probably be #5 right now.

i was going to type this same thing, well done

pac12 made some high profile hires if anyone did, but coaching doesnt have alot to so with it...the SEC recruits out of the south, where they happen to be...its also where alot of the nations best football recruits happen to be

now that they are rolling, its gonna be hard to stop them

 

[3RA1N1AC]

For the record, I'm a PAC-12 (specifically, OREGON DUCKS) guy, but am just calling spades......spades. It's hard to fight City Hall. In this case, the mecca of college football......da South and East.

usc regularly brings in top 5 classes, and they are in the....wait for it....pac12

 

[RR7]

For the record, I'm a PAC-12 (specifically, OREGON DUCKS) guy, but am just calling spades......spades. It's hard to fight City Hall. In this case, the mecca of college football......da South and East.

Sure, but you've done nothing to refute my post, which has to do with high profile coaches. We can call the spade the spade of admitting they are the best conference, but I don't think you have the reasoning correct entirely.

 

[ABM]

Sure, but you've done nothing to refute my post, which has to do with high profile coaches. We can call the spade the spade of admitting they are the best conference, but I don't think you have the reasoning correct entirely.

This is off the cuff, but sometimes "high profile" means "best" in the eyes of a talented student....perhaps, more importantly, his parents. The 2nd biggest factor is....how long is "coach" gonna be there. That particular element can be debated in terms of which conference has an edge.

 

[ABM]

When you take the entire conference though...year in. and year out....I don't think you can debate the fact that the SEC has ruled the nation in terms of overall success (year-end rankings[?]). If you took any 10-year snippet, I think it would be rather conclusive.

 

[blazerboy30]

When you take the entire conference though...year in. and year out....I don't think you can debate the fact that the SEC has ruled the nation in terms of overall success (year-end rankings[?]). If you took any 10-year snippet, I think it would be conclusive.

Meh. Rankings are a a self-selective deal. So many SEC teams start in the top of the rankings it is difficult for other teams to pass them even if they are better.

 

[ABM]

Meh. Rankings are a a self-selective deal. So many SEC teams start in the top of the rankings it is difficult for other teams to pass them even if they are better.

Head-to-head conference records (again, a long-term snippet would need to be applied) might be a better way to compare. I'm guessing, even in that regard, the SEC trumps.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Not so fast, my friend.... http://www.thepostgame.com/commenta...sto-southern-secession-chuck-thompson-sec-bcs

 

[RR7]

This is off the cuff, but sometimes "high profile" means "best" in the eyes of a talented student....perhaps, more importantly, his parents. The 2nd biggest factor is....how long is "coach" gonna be there. That particular element can be debated in terms of which conference has an edge.

no, high profile when using it to describe a college coach never means best in the eyes of a high school kid, that's a ridiculous backtrack. That's not a high profile coach.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

notre dame had like a 50 year run, hopefully the sec gets knocked off before it gets out of hand

 

[ABM]

no, high profile when using it to describe a college coach never means best in the eyes of a high school kid, that's a ridiculous backtrack. That's not a high profile coach.

Not a back-track at all. Let's face it, "high profile" invariably means "successful" - at least, over time. I mean, how would it not?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

This is off the cuff, but sometimes "high profile" means "best" in the eyes of a talented student....perhaps, more importantly, his parents. The 2nd biggest factor is....how long is "coach" gonna be there. That particular element can be debated in terms of which conference has an edge.

im sorry, but alot of inner city recruits parents doesnt know shit about Xs and Os, half of them are in prison, not to be too blunt.

 

[ABM]

im sorry, but alot of inner city recruits parents doesnt know shit about Xs and Os, half of them are in prison, not to be too blunt.

Oh, OK.

 

[RR7]

Meh. Rankings are a a self-selective deal. So many SEC teams start in the top of the rankings it is difficult for other teams to pass them even if they are better.

+1. Like I said with Oregon State, beating two top 20 teams in their first 2 games. That's top 5 material for an SEC game. Or this quote from the article BP linked:

In 2010, for example, the Auburn Tigers began the season with a consensus ranking of #23, behind SEC rivals Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, and Georgia. The only way a team regarded so lightly early in the season can possibly climb into the national championship game -- which Auburn did that year -- is to beat a slew of highly ranked opponents, which Auburn also did that year. Because polls are arranged from the outset so that SEC teams will face the most highly ranked opponents over the course of a season, only teams from the SEC are time and again able to manage this feat.

Start half the conference off in the top 20, then it looks awesome when they beat up on eachother, and they tend not to slip out too far, because hey, they lost to a ranked team. You get a Pac12 game of Oregon versus USC like that shit show of a Florida-LSU matchup last week, and you'd have the entire nation talking about how overrated the two of them are. Instead, we just hear about good defense from the SEC. Bleh.

 

[RR7]

Not a back-track at all. Let's face it, "high profile" invariably means "successful" - at least, over time. I mean, how would it not?

Yes, and they have only a few high profile coaches in the conference. And their three most recent hires aren't high profile successful coaches.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

abm, you are correct, the SEC is the best league in the country, not sure if the coaches are the reason why is all

 

[ABM]

Hmmmm.....I'm not so sure about this statement:

To SEC apologists who claim that the SEC's overall winning records in bowl games is evidence of success in "games that matter" against "quality opponents," I offer the counter-argument that because bowl game pairings are more easily manipulated than regular-season games, and because SEC teams frequently play in bowls near home stadiums, they often result in more favorable match-ups for SEC teams.

 

[ABM]

abm, you are correct, the SEC is the best league in the country, not sure if the coaches are the reason why is all

I think that has a big part to do with it, though.

Isn't the old adage that coaching rules college football, and talent rules the NFL. (Although, obviously, talent rules in the college game, as well.)

 

[3RA1N1AC]

home field is generally worth 3 points or so, according to vegas

 

[TripTango]

This interesting infographic breaks down teams and conferences by numbers of players drafted to the NFL. Although the top two programs since 1992 by NFL draft numbers are Ohio State and USC, the SEC dominates the conference numbers with 576 players -- almost 200 more than the Big 10 and over double the Pac-12. Even corrected for the difference in number of teams per conference, those numbers seem to suggest that NFL scouts consider the SEC to have more talent per team than other conferences over the past 20 years.

 

[ABM]

This interesting infographic breaks down teams and conferences by numbers of players drafted to the NFL. Although the top two programs since 1992 by NFL draft numbers are Ohio State and USC, the SEC dominates the conference numbers with 576 players -- almost 200 more than the Big 10 and over double the Pac-12. Even corrected for the difference in number of teams per conference, those numbers seem to suggest that NFL scouts consider the SEC to have more talent per team than other conferences over the past 20 years.

That's a pretty good indicator, right there.