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I grabbed the wrong link but it's been fixed.
 
The ball is out of his hands with .5 on the clock (so .4 had run off). You are saying it left at 1.28. so that means the clock was off by .88 seconds. I'm assuming that clock countdowns are standard, so the only way there is an issue is if the clock started late. Everyone would have noticed the clock not starting for .88 seconds.
 
Does it matter that the shot took more than 1.2 seconds to get off? Not much to me seeing as Lillard was inbounds on the previous play.
It didn't. Watch the clock. It starts the instant Lillard gets the ball. The NBA has timed these things and 0.9 seconds is plenty of time to catch and launch, which is what Dame did.
 
It didn't. Watch the clock. It starts the instant Lillard gets the ball. The NBA has timed these things and 0.9 seconds is plenty of time to catch and launch, which is what Dame did.
Exactly. I get to "one-one" in saying one-one thousand. Off in plenty of time.
 
The ball is out of his hands with .5 on the clock (so .4 had run off). You are saying it left at 1.28. so that means the clock was off by .88 seconds. I'm assuming that clock countdowns are standard, so the only way there is an issue is if the clock started late. Everyone would have noticed the clock not starting for .88 seconds.

Somewhere between 1.20 and 1.28 yes. It's hard to get the exact frame where he caught it and released it. So yes, the clock had to start late by at least 0.80 seconds.

If you just watch in slow mo, Lillard catches the pass at the video 1:19 mark and the game clock doesn't tick down to 0.8 until the 1:22 mark and the shot leaves dame's hands at the 1:23 mark. So the clock is late by ~3x those 0.3 seconds from 0.8 to 0.5.
 
It didn't. Watch the clock. It starts the instant Lillard gets the ball. The NBA has timed these things and 0.9 seconds is plenty of time to catch and launch, which is what Dame did.

It does not start the instant he gets the ball at all. In the slo mo vid I posted... he catches the ball at the 1:19 mark and the clock ticks to 0.8 at the 1:22 mark.
 
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Hmm, I don't know. It didn't seem like it started late but I guess your youtube link does show it started late. Still think he got it off in time, but whatever. It was a bam-bam play.
 
Okay I downloaded the game at 30fps, and counted frames in VLC. 20 frames from touch to release (with 2 frames of buffer to be sure). .667 seconds. Sorry my count was off originally.
 
It does not start the instant he gets the ball at all. In the slo mo vid I posted... he catches the ball at the 1:19 mark and the clock ticks to 0.8 at the 1:22 mark.
You do realize these clocks are operated by humans? How long does it take for the light waves reflecting the act of catching the ball to reach the human eye, then transfer that data to the brain, then for the electric impulse to cause the finger to press the button. Did you calculate that? And in this case, did any of those things occur differently than every other fucking time a human being carries out the same act. The clock started when it was supposed to and consistent with how clocks are operated in every similar play in every game. In that sense it's all equal.
 
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Okay I downloaded the game at 30fps, and counted frames in VLC. 20 frames from touch to release (with 2 frames of buffer to be sure). .667 seconds. Sorry my count was off originally.

I also looked at my footage and got around .6 seconds. There is no way it took more than .9 for Lillard to get the shot off.
 
Ok good... something must be wrong with the method I was using with the slow mo.

I downloaded a normal speed video and counted clicks from catch to shoot and got at most 20. Then I did the same against the game clock and it took 22 for the game clock to run 0.7 off.

So that's similar to what you got.

I feel much better now.

Thanks.
 
Again, the NBA has calculated the time it takes to catch and shoot. The NBA believes it can be done in 0.4 seconds. The clock started right when Lillard caught the ball. Lillard caught and launched. Plenty of time. I can't believe this is even a debate

Still: Thanks BlazersCaravan for going through all that effort to calculate the actual time. Looks like the time keeper was right on top of it. And so was Dame.

:cheers:
 
Yeah I realize all that... but I feel better now knowing that shot was totally legit.
 
LOL. 1.2 seconds. I saw some Houston fan say something about the shot clock not starting until he was already shooting.

Just for fun I hooked up a professional timer up to my player and hit the button 10 times and got an average around around .55. With the low being around .49 and the high being around .61. So I was consistent in range, median and average. Certainly way below .90. So that argument needs to quietly go away.
 
I also looked at my footage and got around .6 seconds. There is no way it took more than .9 for Lillard to get the shot off.

You have a tough task ahead of you creating a video for Game Six. Kind of a boring game without much tension. I have faith in you, however. Somehow, you'll figure out a way to make it somewhat interesting.
 
You have a tough task ahead of you creating a video for Game Six. Kind of a boring game without much tension. I have faith in you, however. Somehow, you'll figure out a way to make it somewhat interesting.

:lol:
 
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You have a tough task ahead of you creating a video for Game Six. Kind of a boring game without much tension. I have faith in you, however. Somehow, you'll figure out a way to make it somewhat interesting.

Yeah I have no idea how I will make this one interesting, prob just show all Rocket highlights
 

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