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While it's not over for the Suns, one must wonder if Shaq had spent half as much time getting himself in better shape over his whole career (instead of ballooning up like he did) as he does time practicing those lame ass skits to do during the intros and warmups, that the Suns might have been in a much better position than they currently are.
 
Shaq's been better..much better than expected this season. They change their coach, get rid of role players and Amare is injured..this isn't a shocker.
 
julius said:
While it's not over for the Suns, one must wonder if Shaq had spent half as much time getting himself in better shape over his whole career (instead of ballooning up like he did) as he does time practicing those lame ass skits to do during the intros and warmups, that the Suns might have been in a much better position than they currently are.
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Well if he had, he would have never become a Sun.
 
But they might be back next year. Nash, Shaq, Richardson, Stoudemire and Barbarosa are still a formidable group.

I wish Duncan, Billups, Nash, and Shaq would hurry up and "get old". They are all getting close to the age when most stars start becoming good role-players. If the bottom feeding franchises, which traditionally suck all the time, continue their futility, the West may become a little more reasonable.

I also think the Rockets may fizzle soon. I don't understand why they have so much success. They have Yao Ming, but the rest of the roster is not that impressive.
 
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time to swoop in on Nash (Blake/Bayless, 7M in savings for them) and sign Hill to a 1 year deal. Sure we're crowded then and they're expiring, but Nate can't bitch about not having vets and we're championship contenders next year for sure.

Nash(25)/Sergio(15)/Koponen... Roy(8)
Roy(28)/Rudy(20)
Webster(20)/Hill(20)/Batum(8)
Aldridge(30)/Outlaw(18)
Oden(24)/Pryz(24)

The real loser of the situation would be Batum (but only for a year) and during that time he could hit the weights hard and gain some great learning experience being around such great vets. And I'm guessing at some point 1 of Webster, Hill, Rudy, or Roy would be hurt.
 
shamelessblazer said:
time to swoop in on Nash .
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Nash is great and all. He really tries hard, but he's not what we need. Part of the reason why the Suns are doing so poorly is because of Nash' (lack of) defense. Considering perimeter defense is one of our glaring weaknesses, he'd be the last PG I'd want for this team.
 
Sinobas said:
I also think the Rockets may fizzle soon. I don't understand why they have so much success. They have Yao Ming, but the rest of the roster is not that impressive.
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the rest of the roster might not have big names(other than artest) but that doesn't mean they aren't impressive.
 
shamelessblazer said:
time to swoop in on Nash (Blake/Bayless, 7M in savings for them) and sign Hill to a 1 year deal. Sure we're crowded then and they're expiring, but Nate can't bitch about not having vets and we're championship contenders next year for sure.

Nash(25)/Sergio(15)/Koponen... Roy(8)
Roy(28)/Rudy(20)
Webster(20)/Hill(20)/Batum(8)
Aldridge(30)/Outlaw(18)
Oden(24)/Pryz(24)

The real loser of the situation would be Batum (but only for a year) and during that time he could hit the weights hard and gain some great learning experience being around such great vets. And I'm guessing at some point 1 of Webster, Hill, Rudy, or Roy would be hurt.
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Yeah Batum has done so poorly this year he deserves to not only be benched, but also out of the rotation. Really? Come on.
 
Sinobas said:
But they might be back next year. Nash, Shaq, Richardson, Stoudemire and Barbarosa are still a formidable group.

I wish Duncan, Billups, Nash, and Shaq would hurry up and "get old". They are all getting close to the age when most stars start becoming good role-players. If the bottom feeding franchises, which traditionally suck all the time, continue their futility, the West may become a little more reasonable.

I also think the Rockets may fizzle soon. I don't understand why they have so much success. They have Yao Ming, but the rest of the roster is not that impressive.
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Tim Duncan, because of his style, will probably be good until 37, 38 etc.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Nash is great and all. He really tries hard, but he's not what we need. Part of the reason why the Suns are doing so poorly is because of Nash' (lack of) defense. Considering perimeter defense is one of our glaring weaknesses, he'd be the last PG I'd want for this team.
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buy low.

I think he'd have a much better time playing with some guys that D'd up like Oden, Pryz, and Aldridge than Amare and Shaq personally. He sure looked good when playing with solid defenders like Marion, Diaw, and Kurt Thomas the year they were screwed out of a championship.

I also think it would do him some good to play with another creator like Roy to take some stress and pressure off of him to constantly create.
 
LameR said:
Yeah Batum has done so poorly this year he deserves to not only be benched, but also out of the rotation. Really? Come on.
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he'd be grabbing utility minutes for sure...and hypothetically w/o Hill I'd be fine with our rotation too

Nash(26)/Sergio(14)/Roy(8)...Koponen
Roy(28)/Fernandez(20)
Webster(24)/Batum(24)
Aldridge(30)/Outlaw(18)...Freeland
Oden(24)/Pryzbilla(24)

with Aldridge getting some minutes at 5 if Oden or Pryz are hurt or in foul trouble and Outlaw averaging more than 18 mpg.
 
Anyone see the Hornets/Spurs game? Noticed Duncan's knees seem to be really bothering him...It just looked like he was running slow and looked like they hurt...
 
I would hate Kevin Pritchard if he signed Steve Nash. He does not fit on this team in any capacity.
 
Buying Nash would definitely be being low. Unfortunately, there is no up-side. In other words - it will be buying low for the purpose of remaining low.

We can do better.
 
BengalDuck said:
I would hate Kevin Pritchard if he signed Steve Nash. He does not fit on this team in any capacity.
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I wouldn't go quite so far to say he wouldn't fit this team in any capacity, but with his back, his age and having clearly lost a step on offense I don't see how he'd be anything other than a marginal upgrade to Steve Blake at this point in his career -- and a woefully short term upgrade at that.

If you're going to trade for an old point guard at least get one whose game was never predicated on speed and jitterbug quickness in the first place. Andre Miller and Jason Kidd spring to mind and of those two Miller seems like a better bet since he's still got it.
 
shamelessblazer said:
he'd be grabbing utility minutes for sure...and hypothetically w/o Hill I'd be fine with our rotation too

Nash(26)/Sergio(14)/Roy(8)...Koponen
Roy(28)/Fernandez(20)
Webster(24)/Batum(24)
Aldridge(30)/Outlaw(18)...Freeland
Oden(24)/Pryzbilla(24)

with Aldridge getting some minutes at 5 if Oden or Pryz are hurt or in foul trouble and Outlaw averaging more than 18 mpg.
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Why do you have Brandon Roy playing 28 minutes... Roy is our best player, and even with a lot of rest, he'd still be playing 33-35 minutes per game.
 
I agree; totally demoralizing loss to Utah pretty much put the lid on it. Clearly, a good team doesn't get blown out by Sacramento unless they've mailed it in.

Blakey & Roy's wives will be happy soon.
 
Shoot. Now that the Suns are getting a lotto pick, they're not as likely to sell it. Do they have other picks in Rd 1?
 
Natebishop3 said:
Why do you have Brandon Roy playing 28 minutes... Roy is our best player, and even with a lot of rest, he'd still be playing 33-35 minutes per game.
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nate, you missed it. Reread your post, he has brandon playing 8 min at the pg spot in addition to his 28 at the 2.
 
ant said:
Shoot. Now that the Suns are getting a lotto pick, they're not as likely to sell it. Do they have other picks in Rd 1?
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You'd think that would be the case, but this was a team willing to trade Amare for some cap relief next season, so I'd never say never!
 
jwhoops11 said:
You'd think that would be the case, but this was a team willing to trade Amare for some cap relief next season, so I'd never say never!
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Not to mention a team that was willing to trade Sergio & Rudy for Paul Allen's pocket change.
 
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