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Should the Blazers puruse Carmelo Anthony?

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  • Not No but Hell No

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chzbrgr said:
We all know the damn context Youre still trading first round picks for D-wade that is not rational
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In order to get Melo for basically free. Gotta look at the whole fucking scenario.

You say you know the context then make a statement showing how you still don't understand the context.

GTFO
 
BonesJones said:
Would you do it if we didn't have to give up any picks?

Trade 1:
CHI Gets: Evan Turner, Zach Collins
POR Gets: Dwayne Wade

Trade 2:
NYK Gets: Harkless, Davis, Leonard, Napier
POR Gets: Anthony, O'Quinn

Lillard (35) / McCollum (13)
McCollum (22) / Wade (26)
Anthony (20) / Crabbe (25) / Wade (3)
Aminu (26) / Swanigan (12) / Anthony (10)
Nurkic (32) / O'Quinn (16) / Vonleh
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I'd have to consider it.
My concern with this trade with be injury history.
4 of those players getting big minutes have quite an injury history to look at.
Granted you never go into the season planning for the "what if".
Though I have a feeling if Stotts ended up being forced to start Swanigan or Vonleh at center(unless something unforeseen happens) NO would be filing for unemployment before the season ended.
 
honkicracker said:
I'd have to consider it.
My concern with this trade with be injury history.
4 of those players getting big minutes have quite an injury history to look at.
Granted you never go into the season planning for the "what if".
Though I have a feeling if Stotts ended up being forced to start Swanigan or Vonleh at center(unless something unforeseen happens) NO would be filing for unemployment before the season ended.
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Ideally you'd sign a vet C as insurance. We'd have O'Quinn, and could go after someone like Jeff Whithey if he's available
 
KingSpeed said:
Carmelo not considering Portland:

https://www.google.com/amp/www.kgw....-not-considering-portland-right-now/457448196

And that's that.
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This has been reported already and the rumor mill has continued to churn. From the original context, it was not that he'd said no to a deal to Portland, it's just that he'd initially only said he'd welcome a deal to Cavs or Rockets.

I don't think a deal to Portland will happen, but from the reports I've seen, he hasn't said no to Portland.
 
Mason Plumlee may sign an offer sheet with Brooklyn.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
BGD just owned Eric.

:smiley-boxing:
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BonesJones said:
Getting noticeably better isn't a simple process. If Melo didn't have a NTC, some mediocre team would give yo way too much. Since he does have one, he can be had for cheap by any team he wants to go to. The trick is to get him to want to come here.

It's a complicated situation.
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Thanks for the insight I hadn't considered that.
 
Crazy how the original rumor went from us getting in a three team deal to get anderson and HELP Melo go to Houston and then it finally came out we are actually going after Melo. I don't know why he wouldn't consider Portland honestly. Look at the pieces, the guys here. Who wouldn't wanna play with CJ and Dame? they aren't gonna be selfish. If a player like Melo comes here they will get them the best touches just as CP3 would. People forgetting Dame is a great playmaker, not CP3 level but he is up there, just look what he did to help Plumlees and Nurkic's careers finding them with the pick and roll. So who knows, I believe they still have to ask Melo to consider other teams meaning us. We can offer the best deal and I would like to think New York would rather have our pieces or just take Melo in for another year. Or maybe he is so unhappy they just trade him to Houston for whatever which I don't know what that could be
 
Cippy91 said:
Crazy how the original rumor went from us getting in a three team deal to get anderson and HELP Melo go to Houston and then it finally came out we are actually going after Melo. I don't know why he wouldn't consider Portland honestly. Look at the pieces, the guys here. Who wouldn't wanna play with CJ and Dame? they aren't gonna be selfish. If a player like Melo comes here they will get them the best touches just as CP3 would. People forgetting Dame is a great playmaker, not CP3 level but he is up there, just look what he did to help Plumlees and Nurkic's careers finding them with the pick and roll. So who knows, I believe they still have to ask Melo to consider other teams meaning us. We can offer the best deal and I would like to think New York would rather have our pieces or just take Melo in for another year. Or maybe he is so unhappy they just trade him to Houston for whatever which I don't know what that could be
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You should post this on clutch fans.
 
BonesJones said:
In order to get Melo for basically free. Gotta look at the whole fucking scenario.

You say you know the context then make a statement showing how you still don't understand the context.

GTFO
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If you're going to fight for a trade idea at least try to make it realistic.

You're presupposing two very foolish things things: one, that NYK HAS to trade him for nothing (they dont) and two that D-wade is somehow the key to getting Melo (which is bullshit cause Chi aint on his list). In order to accomplish your plan you would have us give up Collins, a guy we traded up to get in the draft along with all our best players outside of our big three for 35-year-old Dwane Wade. A man who most likely will get a buyout on the hopes that somehow seeing Wade in Portland, Melo will force NYK to trade him for nothing (which again he cannot do) and spend his last year under contract here. In that scenario we would go into the season maybe being able to field a 12 man roster...maybe? What happens when someone gets hurt? What happens when the contracts are up and we are left with nothing? Telling me to get outta here after you spent the evening defending THIS aids riddled shit bag of a trade?

YOURE GOING TO HAVE TO TRY HARDER

Just try for us who dont live in the world where your opinions are reality and reality is just a blog about a TV show.
 
BonesJones said:
In order to get Melo for basically free. Gotta look at the whole fucking scenario.

You say you know the context then make a statement showing how you still don't understand the context.

GTFO
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chzbrgr said:
If you're going to fight for a trade idea at least try to make it realistic.

You're presupposing two very foolish things things: one, that NYK HAS to trade him for nothing (they dont) and two that D-wade is somehow the key to getting Melo (which is bullshit cause Chi aint on his list). In order to accomplish your plan you would have us give up Collins, a guy we traded up to get in the draft along with all our best players outside of our big three for 35-year-old Dwane Wade. A man who most likely will get a buyout on the hopes that somehow seeing Wade in Portland, Melo will force NYK to trade him for nothing (which again he cannot do) and spend his last year under contract here. In that scenario we would go into the season maybe being able to field a 12 man roster...maybe? What happens when someone gets hurt? What happens when the contracts are up and we are left with nothing?
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Looking at it as a whole with a version that doesn't involve us giving up Collins certainly makes things look very lopsided in our favor (and that's with including Vonleh to NY instead of Davis).

So, what are the changes that would be necessary in order to make this actually look even for all involved?

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Even if you could convince Melo to come here, then what? He's over the hill, declining, takes a fuck-ton of shots and has never been anything but a disinterested defender.

Frankly, the only thing I would be excited about is dumping a couple of shitty contracts. There's nothing here that will change this team's fortunes on the court.
 
I think you guys are way over downplaying the impact Melo would have on the floor. We are talking about a perennial all star and perhaps the best team player on team USA. Yeah he has declined a little, last years was down 2.6pts, 0.7reb, and 0.2ast from his career numbers, yeah not enough to complain about. But here's the simplest way to think about it. Is he better than any of the players heading out? Absolutely. Does he shorten our financial obligations? Absolutely. And he does so without affecting our core at all.

How many better players in the NBA could we possibly add? If you are bitching about preferring Kevin Love you might want to leave the "no defense" by Anthony argument at the door.

This is a no brainer, it hands down makes the Blazers a top 4 team in the league.
 
Nikolokolus said:
Even if you could convince Melo to come here, then what? He's over the hill, declining, takes a fuck-ton of shots and has never been anything but a disinterested defender.

Frankly, the only thing I would be excited about is dumping a couple of shitty contracts. There's nothing here that will change this team's fortunes on the court.
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I mostly agree with this. I do think we can get a little better with him, but not enough that we should jeopardize our long term future. But like you said swapping some come bad contracts isn't too bad. Especially since he would opt out of this current contract next summer if things did not go well during the 2017-18 season.

I do think he wants to play with his "banana boat" friends. Guys he knows better than say Dame or CJ. So I am sure there is a big difference to him between playing in Houston or Cleveland than somewhere like Portland. And it probably has nothing to do with the city. Just the fact he has probably talked to these other guys during the olympics and on vacations, about playing together.
 
Sarni said:
Trading Collins for Wade is enormously ridiculous.
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collins for wade is way too much from our side unless we can get rid of one of Crabbe/Turner AND Meyers

Interesting trade would be Meyers/Harkless/Crabbe 2018 top 10 protected for Wade and Lopez. we get two quality players one of which is a huge 24mil expiring and cut a yr off Meyers contract and get a great Nurk backup for 2 more yrs and Collins should be ready for significant minutes by then.
 
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