The super Melo to Portland thread + The Big Blockbuster (1 Viewer)

[SlyPokerDog]

I have more basketball knowledge in I've finger nail than that board has as a whole.

but grammar knowledge...

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

I have more basketball knowledge in I've finger nail than that board has as a whole.

Hopefully it's better than your grammar.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Cuckfans are delusional. They don't seem willing to accept the fact that Ryan Anderson is still Ryan Anderson and no one wants Ryan Anderson.

They also seem to have no knowledge of what other teams can offer the Knicks that would be better than their garbage.

Besides, what does Portland have that they are willing to trade for Melo, that New York wants? I'm interested in hearing that part of the story.

First, we don't have Ryan Anderson. That alone makes us a better trading partner than the Rockets.

What we do have is Mo Harkless, who the Knicks covert. Harkless is 5 years younger than Ryan Anderson, improving, not injury prone, makes less than half as much as Anderson, is locked up on a team friendly contract for three more seasons and plays defense.

We also have a significant expiring contract in Ed Davis, several young players on rookie contracts (Vonleh, Swanigan and Collins) and we also own our 2018 first round pick.

After the CP3 trade, HOU has none of those things, let alone any combination that would be attractive to the Knicks.

The only way they can match salaries is by including one, or more players, over the the age of 29 (either Ryan Anderson or Eric Gordon + Trevor Ariza). The Knicks are going young, so they don't want ANY of those guys. The Rockets only have one decent player on their roster under the age of 27 (Clint Capela) and they traded their 2018 first round pick to the Clippers in the CP3 trade. Even if NYK coveted Capela and HOU was willing to trade him, he only makes $2.3 million, so they'd still have to include Anderson or Gordon + Ariza to make the salaries match.

Yet, they are 100% convinced that Melo to HOU is a done deal that will be announced soon.

BNM

 

[KeepOnRollin]

See: Pippen, Scottie.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

For the love of god! Please no!

I'm trying to recruit him by making multiple threads dedicated to him.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

^ logic for the win ^

 

[Minstrel]

Clutchfan's current narrative seems to be that what killed the old deal was that no one wanted Meyers Leonard, so it's really that no one wants "Portland's junk," not that Houston's junk is undesirable.

You have to hand it to these guys--they get creative in finding ways to delude themselves. You'd think one or two of them would say, "Wait a sec, guys--if Meyers Leonard was the problem, not Ryan Anderson, why don't we do the deal with a non-Portland team?"

Sadly, they are not yet advanced enough lifeforms to have mastered such abstract thinking.

 

[Minstrel]

I think his time in New York has already disqualified him.

 

[BBert]

Redemption!

 

[BonesJones]

but grammar knowledge...

Hopefully it's better than your grammar.

The spellcheck..

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

The spellcheck..

Spell check

 

[e_blazer]

Three championship rings with Dame, Nurk and CJ should ensure induction the first time around.

 

[Mediocre Man]

No it wasn't

Twas

 

[BigGameDamian]

Merge please! This will add to the longest running thread in S2 history.

 

[BBert]

So, Melo to POR is still a bit of a long shot, but much more likely now than it was a month ago. If Melo does end up in POR, Neil and C.J. deserve to share the credit, but Crabbe (for waiving his trade kicker) and Kyrie (for wanting out of CLE) also get hockey assists.

BNM

Just a quick comment on Crabbe waiving his trade kicker to go to the Nyets, since it was mentioned a bunch when it happened: I don't think it was a big deal at all. (1) If he stayed in Portland, he doesn't get the trade kicker anyway; (2) By waiving something he wasn't going to get, he got to go to a team he wanted to go to, and be in a role he wanted as a primary option. If not, not.

 

[Mr. Robot]

I'm trying to recruit him by making multiple threads dedicated to him.

youre not any different to that GSW fan who was here lol

 

[Boob-No-More]

Clutchfan's current narrative seems to be that what killed the old deal was that no one wanted Meyers Leonard, so it's really that no one wants "Portland's junk," not that Houston's junk is undesirable.

You have to hand it to these guys--they get creative in finding ways to delude themselves. You'd think one or two of them would say, "Wait a sec, guys--if Meyers Leonard was the problem, not Ryan Anderson, why don't we do the deal with a non-Portland team?"

Sadly, they are not yet advanced enough lifeforms to have mastered such abstract thinking.

They also don't seem to realize POR has the assets to get the deal done without including Meyers Leonard. We may WANT to include Leonard, but we don't have to.

In order for HOU to get the salaries to match, they either have to include Ryan Anderson (29) or Eric Gordon (29) + Trevor Ariza (32). NYK want NONE of those guys and HOU can't make the salaries match without including at least one of them.

The thing that cracks me up the most is they think just because HOU and NYK have reopened talks that a deal is imminent. They still don't have anything the Knicks want and with so many teams using up their cap space (BRK, ORL, MIA, LAL, MIN, IND, UTA, etc.) the likelihood of finding a third team capable of, let lone willing to, absorb Anderson's contract have gone down dramatically in the last month.

BNM

 

[Natebishop3]

Still....?

 

[BBert]

Melos personality also fits with dame and CJ. He might be a "superstar" but from everything I've read and heard, he's a laid back guy.

Yeah. Especially on defense.

 

[Natebishop3]

They probably "reengaged" just to show Anthony one more time that there's nothing that can be done.

"We talked to Houston, they don't have any assets, so please accept a deal to Portland."

 

[The Professional Fan]

Kingspeed dropping "Learn the game, then post" on cuckfans is gold

 

[Boob-No-More]

Just a quick comment on Crabbe waiving his trade kicker to go to the Nyets, since it was mentioned a bunch when it happened: I don't think it was a big deal at all. (1) If he stayed in Portland, he doesn't get the trade kicker anyway; (2) By waiving something he wasn't going to get, he got to go to a team he wanted to go to, and be in a role he wanted as a primary option. If not, not.

Not a big deal for Crabbe, but it was a big deal for POR. If he wouldn't have waived it, the trade might not have happened, and even if it did, it would not have been as favorable. Crabbe wanted to go to BRK, so he would have a chance to start. He wanted that last summer when he signed the BRK offer sheet and he wanted it this summer when he agreed to waive his trade kicker. In the end, he still got a huge contract and ended up where he wanted to be.

BNM

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Hopefully it's better than your grammar.

Ironic. There should be a comma after "Hopefully".

 

[BigGameDamian]

Ironic. There should be a comma after "Hopefully".

 

[Natebishop3]

I really wonder if NY and Portland are playing the long con with Melo.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I can make the argument that both Eric Gordon and Clint Capela are better than CJ McCollum

That place is a goldmine...

For the record, Eric Gordon's best season in the NBA was 22.3 ppg, with a PER = 18.5 on a TS% of .563. And that was 7 years, multiple teams and several injuries ago.

C.J. last season = 23.0 ppg, with PER = 19.9 and TS% = .585. C.J. is better today than Eric Gordon was 7 years ago - and C.J. is still improving.

BNM

 

[SlyPokerCat]

Yeah. Especially on defense.

WTF bro. Change your avatar meow!
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[BLAZINGGIANTS]

The bigger question is:

If Melo is traded to Portland, will you become a fan?

Yes. I've always thought he was overrated and selfish with the ball. But, there is no denying that he is a very talented offensive player, and I think he would thrive with two other very talented offensive players around him and a big guy that can set screens and pass the ball.

 

[Natebishop3]

I can make the argument that both Eric Gordon and Clint Capela are better than CJ McCollum

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

We have a SlyPokerCat? Oh shit!