The super Melo to Portland thread + The Big Blockbuster

[hoopsjock]

Yeah, Schroder is mediocre, Atlanta did well to get out of his extra 2 years AND get a pick out of it. Schroder is a terrible shooter, and very ball dominant. So he either only gets 12 minutes a night, or they force lineups with him and Westbrook together? Neither can shoot. Add in Roberson, and...
Love it for Atlanta, don't see it for OKC.

Yeah, exactly this. OKC took their biggest weakness and made it even worse. I don't get how that helps them?

 

[hoopsjock]

OKC still has a massive tax bill. Not sure Dennis is worth it but he's better than melo. They'll be better than us next yr as well ugh.

Wow, yeah, look at OKC! They are so good!

It's like people didn't watch any of these teams play last year.

 

[hoopsjock]

Schroeder could be a good back up for WB though. I guess the salary dump is good for atl, especially since they aren’t exactly trying to win.

They have already went all in. The money was going to be big either way, swapping Melo for Schroeder is a huge plus. A whole lot better than having to play Melo for another year or having to buy him out.

Wish our GM would shit or get off the pot, so to speak.

See @RR7's post:

Yeah, Schroder is mediocre, Atlanta did well to get out of his extra 2 years AND get a pick out of it. Schroder is a terrible shooter, and very ball dominant. So he either only gets 12 minutes a night, or they force lineups with him and Westbrook together? Neither can shoot. Add in Roberson, and...
Love it for Atlanta, don't see it for OKC.

 

[illmatic99]

Wow, yeah, look at OKC! They are so good!

It's like people didn't watch any of these teams play last year.

They're replacing melo and displacing Felton with Schroeder, TLC, and Noel. Yes they will be better than our roster as it stands.

 

[hoopsjock]

They're replacing melo and displacing Felton with Schroeder, TLC, and Noel. Yes they will be better than our roster as it stands.

TLC and Noel suck. They have literally done nothing in this league. Shroder is a much worse version of Westbrook, when is he going to get the ball in his hands?

 

[oldmangrouch]

Honestly, the only winner I see here is Melo. He is still getting paid and he gets to pick a team that is more interested in his reputation than in his reality.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

The thread that keeps on going and going and going and going and going.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

See @RR7's post:

Schroeder was a mediocre starter, that usually equates to a good starter. This move wasn’t really about making either team better.

 

[Titan]

OKC has a very high payroll and if they start to lose their chemistry might become toxic. The guys they added are not proven winners. Also I thought Shroder preferred to start these days so are they going to force some odd 3 guard lineups with non shooters.

 

[hoopsjock]

Schroeder was a mediocre starter, that usually equates to a good starter. This move wasn’t really about making either team better.

I agree which is why it's silly to see the posts about how much better this makes OKC. It's out of control.

 

[noknobs]

The thread that keeps on going and going and going and going and going.

Yeah all this extra fiber is giving me crazy gas.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I agree which is why it's silly to see the posts about how much better this makes OKC. It's out of control.

Whoops sorry I meant equates to an ok bench players, but I agree with you. It doesn’t really make either team better. Though maybe OKC got better just by not having Melo(?) I know I said I thought the Blazers should swing for him last year but it appears they lucked out not getting him.

 

[tester551]

You guys are crazy, Schroder isn't that good and has 3 years left on his contract. This was a salary dump for Atlanta and they get a future pick out of it. The Thunder just took on a lot of future money, further clouding their financial situation, for a guy who plays the same position as your best player.

And $45MILLION!!!
Atlanta dumped $50M on OKC so that they could dump Melo's $28M contract.

 

[Propagandist]

Wow, yeah, look at OKC! They are so good!

It's like people didn't watch any of these teams play last year.

My least favorite argument of all time: because they haven't, they won't. You used to beat me up about saying Minnesota was going to be a playoff team last year. I'm willing to wager anything intangible (lol), that as the teams are constructed after this trade goes through, that OKC will be better than Portland next season. I don't want this, but it is the reality.

 

[hoopsjock]

My least favorite argument of all time: because they haven't, they won't. You used to beat me up about saying Minnesota was going to be a playoff team last year. I'm willing to wager anything intangible (lol), that as the teams are constructed after this trade goes through, that OKC will be better than Portland next season. I don't want this, but it is the reality.

Some people think every single move another team makes is a) a move Portland should have made and b) makes them so much better. It's like if the Thunder would've signed Nik Stauskas those same posters would be saying how awesome of a move it was for OKC and how it makes them leap frog us since they added a quality shooter. LMAO

 

[Propagandist]

Some people think every single move another team makes is a) a move Portland should have made and b) makes them so much better. It's like if the Thunder would've signed Nik Stauskas those same posters would be saying how awesome of a move it was for OKC and how it makes them leap frog us since they added a quality shooter. LMAO

That's just not true. Or worthy of that much laughter.

 

[hoopsjock]

That's just not true. Or worthy of that much laughter.

Oh you know that's true.

 

[RR7]

That's just not true. Or worthy of that much laughter.

Maybe he's got a tiny ass, so laughing it off isn't that much laughter really?

 

[KingSpeed]

OKC still has a massive tax bill. Not sure Dennis is worth it but he's better than melo. They'll be better than us next yr as well ugh.

No they won't. We swept them last year. How does Shroeder make them that much better?

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Some people think every single move another team makes is a) a move Portland should have made and b) makes them so much better. It's like if the Thunder would've signed Nik Stauskas those same posters would be saying how awesome of a move it was for OKC and how it makes them leap frog us since they added a quality shooter. LMAO

Realistically though many moves aren’t even about teams trying to get better, a lot of teams are in play around with the salary cap mode.
The Stauskus signing to me was more about timing than it being a bad signing. I don’t really think OKC got better this year. I do think about 8 teams are fighting for 6 playoff spots and depending on health and the breaks of the season they could all finish in just about any order from 3-11ish in the West.
I think Portland’s “future” may be brighter after this summer if those young guys pan out, but I don’t think they have gotten significantly worse or better going into next year. I think that’s actually the case for most teams.

 

[Scalma]

No they won't. We swept them last year. How does Shroeder make them that much better?

Dumping Melo is the definition of addition by subtraction.

And going from Felton to Schroder doesn’t need further analysis.

 

[KingSpeed]

They're replacing melo and displacing Felton with Schroeder, TLC, and Noel. Yes they will be better than our roster as it stands.

Felton was good for him. As was said, their guards can't shoot and we've added shooting. We're still better than them. We have All NBA First Team guard. They don't. And PG13 is overrated.

 

[Propagandist]

Oh you know that's true.

I know it's true (not Staukas though) to a degree. But I see it as this: every single move other GMs make, reminds Blazer fans of the inactivity of their own GM. And each reminder builds more and more discord...(and at times a bit of irrationality).

For me, it's the entire picture--from the beginning until now. The shifting target stuff, the changing catch phrases and the ones that don't change, etc. It's insulting and tiresome. And then to have people tell you it's all part of the master plan. That's what's laughable. Olshey simply cannot do what he says he's going to do. Therefore, people freak. And they probably should.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Schroeder could be a good back up for WB though. I guess the salary dump is good for atl, especially since they aren’t exactly trying to win.

Not so sure about that. Schroeder is a HORRIBLE defender, a TERRIBLE 3-point shooter and a very high usage rate player. At least he will let OKC continue to play the same style when Westbrick goes to the bench.

Seriously, they now have two 30+ USG% players who shoot < .300 3FG%, both of whom will be taking shots away from the MUCH more efficient Paul George. To me, as a Blazers fan, this is a good thing.

Poor Paul George, he resigns with OKC and they bring in a second ball hog who thinks he deserves all the shots.

BNM

 

[KingSpeed]

My least favorite argument of all time: because they haven't, they won't. You used to beat me up about saying Minnesota was going to be a playoff team last year. I'm willing to wager anything intangible (lol), that as the teams are constructed after this trade goes through, that OKC will be better than Portland next season. I don't want this, but it is the reality.

How? We swept them. Shroeder and Noel suddenly flip three of those games? Felton is better shooter than Schroeder. They've gotten worse.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Not so sure about that. Schroeder is a HORRIBLE defender, a TERRIBLE 3-point shooter and a very high usage rate player. At least he will let OKC continue to play the same style when Westbrick goes to the bench.

Seriously, they now have two 30+ USG% players who shoot < .300 3FG%, both of whom will be taking shots away from the MUCH more efficient Paul George. To me, as a Blazers fan, this is a good thing.

Poor Paul George, he resigns with OKC and they bring in a second ball hog who thinks he deserves all the shots.

BNM

You may be right.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

How? We swept them. Shroeder and Noel suddenly flip three of those games? Felton is better shooter than Schroeder. They've gotten worse.

Only thing that may make them better is not having Melo!

 

[KingSpeed]

Realistically though many moves aren’t even about teams trying to get better, a lot of teams are in play around with the salary cap mode.
The Stauskus signing to me was more about timing than it being a bad signing. I don’t really think OKC got better this year. I do think about 8 teams are fighting for 6 playoff spots and depending on health and the breaks of the season they could all finish in just about any order from 3-11ish in the West.
I think Portland’s “future” may be brighter after this summer if those young guys pan out, but I don’t think they have gotten significantly worse or better going into next year. I think that’s actually the case for most teams.

We are a lock for playoffs. We spent the last month of the season at 3 seed. It's not like we were bouncing around the standings. We will be very good this year. Great? Who knows? But very good, yes.

 

[Boob-No-More]

So, doesn't this trade create the same kind of logjam at guard for OKC that people are bitching about POR having? They resigned Felton, already have Westbrook sucking up over 36 MPG and 21 FGA/G at the point guard spot and have now added Schroeder..

How does adding a shitty defender with a > 30% USG% and a < .300 3FG% make them better? Seriously, explain that one to me.

At least our so-called logjam at guard consists of people who can actually shoot the ball. We have a surplus of guys who can shoot. OKC has a surplus of guys who can't.

BNM

 

[Orion Bailey]

You may be right.

He is almost always right. I look for his wrongs and I think I've found 3-4 over the last few years?

Just when you think you have it all answered, he will bring a viewpoint that makes you feel blind.

My favorite poster here.