Exclusive The Truth about the Jacob Blake Shooting comes out....

[crandc]

He was just training for a future police job. In both instances.

Or a speaking spot at RNC.

 

[Lanny]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...updates-kenosha/5654147002/#gpd-1598659719091

Nothing in that story absolves the officers of attempted murder. They had multiple officers and could have incapacitated Mr. Blake had they really tried. They probably tased him where he had some protective clothing and needed to tase his bare skin.
I think the officer would have a better case had Mr. Blake been facing him at a close distance. I feel it is the wrong way to deal with a suspect by shooting him in the back unless the suspect were immediately endangering the life of someone else.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Why don't cops use those bean bag shotguns anymore?

One of those to Blakes back at that range would have stomped him.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Whenever a woman is raped, we hear questions about what she did, what she said, what she wore. Her past history is inspected for supposed bad behavior, even normal youth behavior. We don't hear what the rapist did or all about his past.

When a Black person is shot by cops or vigilantes we hear all about his/her past behavior. Did the cop or vigilantes have a history of racism? Excessive force? Bad temper? Turn victim into criminal and criminal into victim.

Speaking of criminals, the young Trumper charged with killing two protesters (both white BTW) was caught on video last month sucker punching a young woman. He is a hero on the right for allegedly murdering two people.

This was maybe true like 10 or longer years ago... Now any time anything happens, there are immediately huge internet mobs running around using every shred of evidence they can to build up a narrative about both parties. If that werent the case you wouldnt know that guy was at a Trump rally, or that he punched someone, or that he wanted to be a cop.
With Chauvin and George Floyd most people fairly informed could write biographies for both.

With the shooter in WI, we know within a week so much about his life that it seems a weird argument to make that we did hear about people like thats past because we certainly do at this point.

 

[barfo]

no way does that prove anything when they are within arms reach. How easy would it be to stab backwards while still standing there but turning at the same time. I could do it in an instant right now in the kitchen with a kitchen knife.

From what I saw the cops all had legs, they could have taken a few steps back. Knives work very poorly at long range.

What ive been addressing is how the situation gets there in the first place and how it could have been avoided several stops along the way, PRIOR to they cop making the wrong choice to shoot him 7 times.

So what? No one here is suggesting that the situation couldn't have been avoided by there not being an incident in the first place.
If everyone acted like angels all the time, we wouldn't need police at all.

None of you want to discuss that and that's telling....you must all want some sort of civil war or something because without being candid about all aspects, you are inviting the extremists out of the woods to defend the cops because no one else is condemning the victims actions prior to him being shot. And they should be.

Oh, baloney. I think everyone understands that the victim wasn't being a good citizen that day.

We MUST discuss both and figure out solutions to both, or we will not have equal justice.

Pretty sure that society already vigorously punishes citizens that shoot cops 7 times in the back. So yes, let's both-sides this.

barfo

 

[Lanny]

Why don't cops use those bean bag shotguns anymore?

One of those to Blakes back at that range would have stomped him.

They probably don't carry them around typically. They take up space needed for supplies they need for the most dangerous situations like cameras, radios, shotguns, body armor, first aid kits and so on

 

[crandc]

This was maybe true like 10 or longer years ago... Now any time anything happens, there are immediately huge internet mobs running around using every shred of evidence they can to build up a narrative about both parties. If that werent the case you wouldnt know that guy was at a Trump rally, or that he punched someone, or that he wanted to be a cop.
With Chauvin and George Floyd most people fairly informed could write biographies for both.

With the shooter in WI, we know within a week so much about his life that it seems a weird argument to make that we did hear about people like thats past because we certainly do at this point.

Ask any woman.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Ask any woman.

Ok find me a case blown up in the media of rape or something else I guess in the last ten or so years where when it came out we didnt know within weeks the life story of the victim and perp. Sorry but the idea that only the victims life is strewn out in public is just false at this point. Anything that touches the mainstream all of those involved have their lives thrown out into the open. Thats the age of social media and cameras every where.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Link?

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Link?

Click on it...?
Edit: sorry maybe Im misunderstanding are you asking for a news article or something?
If so...

https://www.newsbreak.com/district-...-threatening-to-put-police-in-the-f-ing-grave
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...threatens-burn-white-house-police-graves/amp/
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/0...-their-graves-burning-white-house-down-966149

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Click on it...?
Edit: sorry maybe Im misunderstanding are you asking for a news article or something?

All of those articles or the video don't identify the person.

Saying that he is a member of BLM muchless a leader doesn't seem factual or fair.

He's a man on a mic talking shit.

Hell, I was on a mic at a De La Soul concert once, it doesn't make me a member of the group or their leader.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

All of those articles or the video don't identify the person.

Saying that he is a member of BLM muchless a leader doesn't seem factual or fair.

He's a man on a mic talking shit.

Hell, I was on a mic at a De La Soul concert once, it doesn't make me a member of the group or their leader.

I didnt label him as anything that was just the title of the video. Its not exactly far fetched though.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost...snt-happen-we-will-burn-down-this-system/amp/

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I didnt label him as anything that was just the title of the video. Its not exactly far fetched though.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost...snt-happen-we-will-burn-down-this-system/amp/

I never said you labeled him or the video.

Burn the system down is hardly the same.

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Back in October, during the fight over who should replace John Boehner as speaker of the House, Erick Erickson wrote that, “given Washington these days, I think the default should be to burn it to the ground (metaphorically speaking).” Joe Miller, onetime GOP Senate candidate in Alaska, wrote, “I will endorse the first 2016 candidate to make ‘burn it down’ their campaign theme.” He was in luck. Mike Huckabee’s short-lived campaign ran an ad declaring, “Let’s burn down the Washington political machine!” In New Hampshire Chris Christie said, “I’m angry, too. I want to burn Washington down because it’s so ineffective.”

https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/03/donald-trump-2016-voters-above-burning-system-down/​

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Back in October, during the fight over who should replace John Boehner as speaker of the House, Erick Erickson wrote that, “given Washington these days, I think the default should be to burn it to the ground (metaphorically speaking).” Joe Miller, onetime GOP Senate candidate in Alaska, wrote, “I will endorse the first 2016 candidate to make ‘burn it down’ their campaign theme.” He was in luck. Mike Huckabee’s short-lived campaign ran an ad declaring, “Let’s burn down the Washington political machine!” In New Hampshire Chris Christie said, “I’m angry, too. I want to burn Washington down because it’s so ineffective.”

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[Strenuus]

I do. I think it was part poor training part legit fear brought on by having lost a scuffle with a man resisting arrest, then going to his car to grab something. I don't see how anyone could think it wrong of the officer at that point not to assume he is going for a weapon. DO you think he was going for some chewing gun? a white Flag? I mean we must use common sense, just like its common sense that the cop didn't have to shoot 7 times. But what happened first? The victim resisting arrest and based on the timeline, the shooting never would have happened if the victim would not have been disobedient. And that's a fact based on the timeline. To not hold the victim part responsible is just not equal justice.

Yes, the cop could and should have avoided shooting seven times, but the victim could and should have avoided getting shot all together based on the cops having guns drawn and not pulling the trigger to begin with, if he would have just not resisted. Anyone not admitting this is not being fair.

So he resists arrest.

There was a guy who eluded police that didn't get shot.

There was a guy who ran from the cops that didn't get shot.

Why did this person at this time get shot 7 times, when there are multiple stories about others who have evaded the police who didn't get shot once for evading and running? A resistance of arrest at most should get a taser shot (i.e. less lethal), not 7 shots within range to kill someone.

They have a term for this: overkill. Luckily he didn't die, but he will never have the same life again. Because he did something that people who have done more than him didnt get shot for.

The dude who killed 2 people didn't get shot 7 times and he walked right by cops.

Maybe he should of resisted arrest, then maybe the cops would have done something.

See how ass backwards that all is? Its one thing to see both sides, but when you break it down and see how asinine one side is.... need I say more?

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I never said you labeled him or the video.

Burn the system down is hardly the same.

-----------------------------------------------

Back in October, during the fight over who should replace John Boehner as speaker of the House, Erick Erickson wrote that, “given Washington these days, I think the default should be to burn it to the ground (metaphorically speaking).” Joe Miller, onetime GOP Senate candidate in Alaska, wrote, “I will endorse the first 2016 candidate to make ‘burn it down’ their campaign theme.” He was in luck. Mike Huckabee’s short-lived campaign ran an ad declaring, “Let’s burn down the Washington political machine!” In New Hampshire Chris Christie said, “I’m angry, too. I want to burn Washington down because it’s so ineffective.”

https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/03/donald-trump-2016-voters-above-burning-system-down/​

I am keenly aware that there are multiple parties who want to profit off of a civil war in the US and have been fine-tuning their weapons of divisiveness for a while. Nothing surprising to see here.

 

[Strenuus]

dude on the show cops they have DOZENS of clips of scuffles JUST LIKE THIS ONE.

But they didn't get shot 7 times.

Unjustified. Period.

 

[RR7]

A few years back, I needed to borrow a tool from my sister's house. They were on a roadtrip, but I had a key. I walked in, and realized they had set their alarm, and I had forgotten the code. I entered it in wrong a few times. I tried calling them, to get the code, but they were out of cell reception. So, I figured I would just go find the tool in the basement, shining my light around. Cops show up, because, alarm, no code. I walk out. Hey, it's my sister's house. Oh, yeah, probably so or you would have ran. Ok, carry on.
Guess my skin color?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

A few years back, I needed to borrow a tool from my sister's house. They were on a roadtrip, but I had a key. I walked in, and realized they had set their alarm, and I had forgotten the code. I entered it in wrong a few times. I tried calling them, to get the code, but they were out of cell reception. So, I figured I would just go find the tool in the basement, shining my light around. Cops show up, because, alarm, no code. I walk out. Hey, it's my sister's house. Oh, yeah, probably so or you would have ran. Ok, carry on.
Guess my skin color?

Purple?

 

[RR7]

Purple?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I love you!

You love me?

 

[illmatic99]

no I didnt, this is why you are so hard to have a conversation with. You twist things and put words in my mouth. You answer questions with questions and sidestep/dismiss the questions directed at you more often than not.
Quote me where I said Its okay for a cop to KILL when uncertain? Second, Im stating that the cop had legit right to assume the victim was going for a weapon based on the situation and guess what? the cop was right in his assumption.

I NEVER said cops can just kill when uncertain. Now please stop twisting things or we are done with this convo.

Why is it that whenever you disagree with someone, they always become "hard to have a conversation with?"

 

[illmatic99]

The initial reports that caused a huge sports shutdown were... quite a bit off....

we are a hasty, kneejerk country that has lost the ability to withhold judgement until all facts are divulged....

its so fing concerning that its this mentality that is gonna continue to accelerate clashes and all out civil war will soon follow. It will likely turn into a racial war even when both sides will have people who love all, on them.
This is just insane and we are sheeple following media twisted headlines because the media are paid conglomerate puppets of those in power behind the scenes, financially.

we have got to fight these kneejerk incorrect headlines and we must excersize more patience in our judgements of things.

no way Blake deserved to be shot seven times.

Its also no way the cops should have been forced to make a decision to shoot in the first place, if Blake wouldn't have resisted.

there are two wrongs two be discussed here.
We must not. We CANNOT ignore either side or we will never have equal justice.

You wrote this post wrong.

Put this first: "no way Blake deserved to be shot seven times."

Then all your nonsense about media and sheep will fall into place.

 

[crandc]

Ok find me a case blown up in the media of rape or something else I guess in the last ten or so years where when it came out we didnt know within weeks the life story of the victim and perp. Sorry but the idea that only the victims life is strewn out in public is just false at this point. Anything that touches the mainstream all of those involved have their lives thrown out into the open. Thats the age of social media and cameras every where.

Why don't you research it? Not my job to tutor hostile men who have deliberately chosen to support racism and misogyny, especially since I doubt you're really interested.

 

[Orion Bailey]

You wrote this post wrong.

Put this first: "no way Blake deserved to be shot seven times."

Then all your nonsense about media and sheep will fall into place.

So your issue is i didnt say that first?


Ive said it many times......And its also said EVERYWHERE. So sorry i disappointed you with my lack of proper order.
I felt it a given that everyone knows it is simply wrong he was shot in the back seven times.

I don't care to play the echo chamber game some of you like to do in here. I don't pile on and post something thats been said over and over. I try to post things that are not being discussed to open a new avenue.


i have said it many many times yet the echo chamber here wants to act as though im condoning it...

Some of you just igNore what you want so you can continue this moral superiority complex some of you have.

Im not going to say it was wrong to shoot him in the back seven times anymore. Ive said it enough times and for those of you trying to get at me for it, its your own blind fault for only reading what you want to read to continue your false narrative...


i am however going to continue to talk and say that this could have also been avoided if the victim would have not resisted arrest.

Until that is discussed and addressed, the seven shots in the back is everywhere and its obviously wrong.

and its also a wrong several wrongs actually what the victim did. If the victim doesnt trust cops then why did he give then that opportunity. This lack of common sense needs to be discussed too and i don't give a shit if you few moral superior complex issue people have a problem with it.

Yes the cop shooting is a bigger deal but how did they get there? From continual disobedient suspects such as Blake.
Its called conditioning.

some of you can take your moral superiority and shove it.
Ive havnet attacked one individual person here for not wanting to discuss the actions of the victim, just shunned and treated like I'm insane for questioning the victims actions at the same time....

some of you have real internet issues Nd must assert your opinion in a way that makes you feel better than the other person?

and now the echo chamber will chime in that im off my rocker, all the while dismissing their very posts that prove my point.


There are multiple problems here but im telling you if the victims actions are not also discussed then this shit will continue.

some of you must want this to continue since your so willing to dismiss the actions that created the situation to begin with.


Dont quote me or come at me with your better than though shit unless you want a conversation a out how we can fix the victims actions so the cops aren't put in a position to make poor choices.
There are plenty of conversations about police reform and how shooting him in the back was wrong. And i agree with that.
But for some of you to treat me like I'm wrong for also wanting to discuss the victims actions and how we can also minimize that, just shows
how impartial many of you are and you don't actually want equal justice.


If the coos didnt shoot and the victim pulled out a rifle and shot everyone, some of your responses would be, wtf. Cop should have done something.
Some cops simply arw in a lose lose situation becausw of irrational and unfair judgements by the masses such as tourselves.

I believe as humans, we are intelligent enough to dissect the incident and detail out all the weongs to try to fix.

Not ignore some and only fix the others.
However some of you are aiding in me losing faith in our intelligence to be able to do so, by treating those that, do as if they are criminal or something.

 

[ABM]

Yes the cop shooting is a bigger deal but how did they get there? From continual disobedient suspects such as Blake.
Its called conditioning.

Bingo.

 

[illmatic99]

i have said it many many times yet the echo chamber here wants to act as though im condoning it...

Then why else did you create this thread? Was it for the veiled attacks and condescension? Or was it just to vent nonsense?

 

[julius]

Yes the cop shooting is a bigger deal but how did they get there? From continual disobedient suspects such as Blake.
Its called conditioning.

The problem is, it's also been conditioned from the continual over the top reactions from the police, which is weirdly enough far more evident against POC than it is against non POC.

I think it's more that people want it to be consistent across the board.