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Do you not comprehend simple English, give it up already.......

I don't see no one here agreeing with you, as much as I don't see anyone who thinks Gardner with His Speed, does NOT need some base stealing tutoring....NO DOUBT, Gardner if he can ever learn to steal consistently without a high throw out pctg. sure as Hell will equate to more Runs Scored.

Is that the elementary Math you were talking about?

Perhaps you should indeed take up Hockey as your primary sport, with a couple of years of English Reading Comprehension 101, and 102......again Ebonics seems to be the Prob indeed....!
 
Rick2583 said:
WTF does Bernie Williams have to do with this? Bernie was NEVER a stolen base guy. NEVER led the league in stolen bases, NEVER stole more then 17 bases in a season & only had a 62% success rate.

That's it I'm done.
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Me 3....!!!
 
Let's play "Let's make a deal"....
You can have Gardner steal 20(?) more bases with a similar offense as last year....
....and I'll settle for a similar amount of SB 21(?) from Gardner with a Yankee lineup in the top 3rd in the league in scoring!
 
Wait, I know the answer.... Mickey Rivers.
 
blgridesagain said:
And?
Care to point out any inaccuracies with Gardner's numbers I supplied?
Maybe you believe he won't have more opportunities to steal bases if he reached base more often?
.327 OBP......he ISNT an aggressive base stealer...so, if he could/should reach base more often, he should/ could steal more bases.


You seem to be in the "majority" disagreeing with me when I said (post 6):
..the difference between Gardner stealing 25/35 bases and stealing 40-50 bases is not a major factor in the Yankees qualifying for a playoff spot....


You're move professor.

And any other "yes men" are welcome.
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..."professor"?..."yes men"?.....lmao.

... you're making this way to easy and like I said, reading comprehension/retention is not your friend. Once again you've totally missed the point and gone off on yet another irrelevant tangent. (message board self mutilation personified)

...the Gardner shortcoming that Rick brought up was his poor base running/stealing instincts regardless of how often he got on base...you then opened up a can of dumb-ass by interjecting "OBP" which has absolutely nothing to do with Gardner's ability to steal bases and read pitchers' moves.
 
yankeesince59 said:
..."professor"?..."yes men"?.....lmao.

... you're making this way to easy and like I said, reading comprehension/retention is not your friend. Once again you've totally missed the point and gone off on yet another irrelevant tangent. (message board self mutilation personified)

...the Gardner shortcoming that Rick brought up was his poor base running/stealing instincts regardless of how often he got on base...you then opened up a can of dumb-ass by interjecting "OBP" which has absolutely nothing to do with Gardner's ability to steal bases and read pitchers' moves.
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Not to mention bringing Bernie Williams into it.
 
Mattingly23NY said:
Do you not comprehend simple English, give it up already.......

I don't see no one here agreeing with you, as much as I don't see anyone who thinks Gardner with His Speed, does NOT need some base stealing tutoring....NO DOUBT, Gardner if he can ever learn to steal consistently without a high throw out pctg. sure as Hell will equate to more Runs Scored.

Is that the elementary Math you were talking about?

Perhaps you should indeed take up Hockey as your primary sport, with a couple of years of English Reading Comprehension 101, and 102......again Ebonics seems to be the Prob indeed....!
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He struck out 134 times last year, highest of his career...kinda slows down you're opportunities to steal bases when you're batting .256 with an OBP of.327 and 134 Ks.
He has stolen well over 40 bases in back to back seasons a few yrs ago and his OBP in those years was much more respectable than last year's.
So we all would like to see him steal more bases...and it sounds like you expect at least 30-50(?) SB per year from him???...okay fine.
Have you considered maybe, possibly these last two Yankee teams (2013-14) have been BEHIND in the score more than in the past?

And I still stay the Yankees' biggest problem and weakness has been their HITTING, with Gardner stealing "only" 21 bases low on the list of Yankee problems.

He stole 20 something bases in 2013....and 21 last year, he has stolen over 40 bases two previous times in his mid-20s......maybe he can/should be a 30something SB guy and that will not - as I've said , IMO - will not be a difference maker in the team's chances of making the post season if they don't significantly improve in the run scoring dept.

So - which will it be?

Door number 1
You can have Gardner steal 20(?) more bases with a similar offense as last year....

Door number 2
Have a similar amount of SB 21(?) from Gardner with a Yankee lineup in the top 3rd in the league in scoring!

Take you're time, you can ask for help. lol
 
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blgridesagain said:
He struck out 134 times last year, highest of his career...kinda slows down you're opportunities to steal bases when you're batting .256 with an OBP of.327 and 134 Ks.
He has stolen well over 40 bases in back to back seasons a few yrs ago and his OBP in those years was much more respectable than last year's.
So we all would like to see him steal more bases...and it sounds like you expect at least 30-50(?) SB per year from him???...okay fine.
Have you considered maybe, possibly these last two Yankee teams (2013-14) have been BEHIND in the score more than in the past?

And I still stay the Yankees' biggest problem and weakness has been their HITTING, with Gardner stealing "only" 21 bases low on the list of Yankee problems.

He stole 20 something bases in 2013....and 21 last year, he has stolen over 40 bases two previous times in his mid-20s......maybe he can/should be a 30something SB guy and that will not - as I've said , IMO - will not be a difference maker in the team's chances of making the post season if they don't significantly improve in the run scoring dept.

So - which will it be?

Door number 1
You can have Gardner steal 20(?) more bases with a similar offense as last year....

Door number 2
Have a similar amount of SB 21(?) from Gardner with a Yankee lineup in the top 3rd in the league in scoring!

Take you're time, you can ask for help. lol
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Are you still watching Bowling For Dollars with Chick Hearn, and those other old B&W game shows.

In case you didn't notice the sign at the door, "please show your ID at the door".....you must of snuck by the guards..!

this is NOT about fkn game shows.

It's so damned obvious, Gardner needs base stealing tutoring, as well as a damn good hitting coach, who can turn him around. IMO, the greatest hitting coach the Yanx ever had, is now the Mgr. of the Bums. The only asswipe Donnie could not correct, rather A-Roid could not correct his own fishing for low outside breaking pitches, which A-Fraud consistently tried to pull to LF.....

Other than that, Honestly, Personally, when Gardner held out last year, I would of shit canned him....he's never been worth a dime over 5 million in my books. Therein is more the prob than your rants and temper tantrums.....

But, if your going to pay him double what he's produced or worth, then get the kid some tutors. You can't blame a kid for something he has not been taught. But Brett has been taught. He just isn't getting it yet. Hopefully soon it will all click....someday, prob when he's no longer a Yank.....Sad to say....!!!

Onwards......
 
I'd like to see a MOD lock these doors you refer too.....

and.....pathetically, this is the last response your getting out of me, on this thread.

I think the others have pretty much already washed their hands of you on this one....!

and yes, bwahahaha....post #37, did you really edit that post all by yourself, or did you get a Editor tutor to do as much???? Bwahahhaha.......:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
 
Yeah that is pretty funny.

I don't know maybe Denny needs to make a suggestion to the board. Something like "To save embarrassment it may be a good idea to refrain from drinking while posting on these boards". just a thought.

First it was Tom (totus) who seemed to have gone a little batty for a while. Appears to be okay now (for the most part). Welcome back Tom. And now Blg appears to be abusing the cooking sherry with his all over the place responses.

Let me just add this with hopes that the happy juice has worn off & he'll be able to comprehend things a little clearer.

Gardner got on base 196 times last year via hits & walks. Of those 196 times there were 50 XBH (I'm sorry, that stands for EXTRA BASE HITS) So 146 times he stopped at 1st base & keep in mind I'm not counting all the times he ended up on 1st base via the fielders choice. He attempted (Now pay attention) a grand total of........wait for it....................26 stolen bases.

Maybe now by reducing things to the ridiculous you'll be able to comprehend things a little better. Hopefully I'm not giving you to much credit.
 
Rick2583 said:
Yeah that is pretty funny.

I don't know maybe Denny needs to make a suggestion to the board. Something like "To save embarrassment it may be a good idea to refrain from drinking while posting on these boards". just a thought.

First it was Tom (totus) who seemed to have gone a little batty for a while. Appears to be okay now (for the most part). Welcome back Tom. And now Blg appears to be abusing the cooking sherry with his all over the place responses.

Let me just add this with hopes that the happy juice has worn off & he'll be able to comprehend things a little clearer.

Gardner got on base 196 times last year via hits & walks. Of those 196 times there were 50 XBH (I'm sorry, that stands for EXTRA BASE HITS) So 146 times he stopped at 1st base & keep in mind I'm not counting all the times he ended up on 1st base via the fielders choice. He attempted (Now pay attention) a grand total of........wait for it....................26 stolen bases.

Maybe now by reducing things to the ridiculous you'll be able to comprehend things a little better. Hopefully I'm not giving you to much credit.
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The Perfect re-buttal and Response Rick, Great Point......(and here I assumed he knew as much, but then, as Mom used to say: "assume nothing")....
 
yankeesince59 said:
...loling at the completely edited post # 37.
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Post 37 read "His".... It was regarding Gardner and it started and ended with the word " His".....I inadvertently hit the "post" button and chose to delete it instead of leaving it as is.

Wow...you"really showed me!


I do have some more comments about Gardy and his SB situation from last year.
 
Mattingly23NY said:
Are you still watching Bowling For Dollars with Chick Hearn, and those other old B&W game shows.

In case you didn't notice the sign at the door, "please show your ID at the door".....you must of snuck by the guards..!

this is NOT about fkn game shows.

It's so damned obvious, Gardner needs base stealing tutoring, as well as a damn good hitting coach, who can turn him around. IMO, the greatest hitting coach the Yanx ever had, is now the Mgr. of the Bums. The only asswipe Donnie could not correct, rather A-Roid could not correct his own fishing for low outside breaking pitches, which A-Fraud consistently tried to pull to LF.....

Other than that, Honestly, Personally, when Gardner held out last year, I would of shit canned him....he's never been worth a dime over 5 million in my books. Therein is more the prob than your rants and temper tantrums.....

But, if your going to pay him double what he's produced or worth, then get the kid some tutors. You can't blame a kid for something he has not been taught. But Brett has been taught. He just isn't getting it yet. Hopefully soon it will all click....someday, prob when he's no longer a Yank.....Sad to say....!!!

Onwards......
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Tell it to Rick.
I've been saying he needs to get on base more often....
....I know it may be too deep for some of the knee-jerkers but if he can consistently get on base significantly more than 32% of the time, the other things should follow.
 
blgridesagain said:
Post 37 read "His".... It was regarding Gardner and it started and ended with the word " His".....I inadvertently hit the "post" button and chose to delete it instead of leaving it as is.

Wow...you"really showed me!


I do have some more comments about Gardy and his SB situation from last year.
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...try again...and use a little more imagination this time.
 
blgridesagain said:
Post 37 read "His".... It was regarding Gardner and it started and ended with the word " His".....I inadvertently hit the "post" button and chose to delete it instead of leaving it as is.

Wow...you"really showed me!


I do have some more comments about Gardy and his SB situation from last year.
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Read post #44 maybe then you'll get it. If not then I'm sorry for you because it can't be explained any better then that.
 
From August 26 - Sept 16 the Yankees lost TEN games scoring 2 or less runs.
This stretch of games best defined, IMO, and was a microcosm of the Yankees' 2014 season and it's biggest most obvious embarrassing weakness.

In those 10 losses....in those 10 losses scoring 2 or less runs during the latest most crucial part of the season while the Yanks were very much alive for a post season spot, here's what Gardner did:

2-27, 1 SB, 1BB, 0 Runs scored.

See a pattern here?
Why didn't Gardner steal more bases and SCORE MORE RUNS during that stretch of games?

lmao


Are you guys serious?....no really....are you serious?


Any suggestions?

Feel free to send up some smoke cover. lol


lol
 
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blgridesagain said:
From August 26 - Sept 16 the Yankees lost TEN games scoring 2 or less runs.
This stretch of games best defined, IMO, and was a microcosm of the Yankees' 2014 season and it's biggest most obvious embarrassing weakness.

In those 10 losses....in those 10 losses scoring 2 or less runs during the latest most crucial part of the season while the Yanks were very much alive for a post season spot, here's what Gardner did:

2-27, 1 SB, 1BB, 0 Runs scored.

See a pattern here?
Why didn't Gardner steal more bases and SCORE MORE RUNS during that stretch of games?

lmao


Are you guys serious?....no really....are you serious?


Any suggestions?

Feel free to send up some smoke cover. lol


lol
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We're talking Brett Gardner, you bring up Bernie Williams

We're talking about bad base running ability, you're talking OBP.

Were talking about the season (entire season) you're talking about the last month of the season.

Yeah you're right & everyone else is wrong. Hell we'd have better luck teaching algebra to a 3 year old.
 
Rick2583 said:
We're talking Brett Gardner, you bring up Bernie Williams

We're talking Stolen bases, you're talking OBP.

Were talking about the season (entire season) you're talking about the last month of the season.

Yeah you're right & everyone else is wrong. Hell we'd have better luck teaching algebra to a 3 year old.
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Run the clock out.
Rick2583 said:
We're talking Brett Gardner, you bring up Bernie Williams

We're talking about bad base running ability, you're talking OBP.

Were talking about the season (entire season) you're talking about the last month of the season.

Yeah you're right & everyone else is wrong. Hell we'd have better luck teaching algebra to a 3 year old.
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Bernie was a very fast runner who didn't have very good base stealing instincts..but he was a an excellent hitter and the fans in general didn't complain about his lack of base stealing .....Gardner is a very fast base runner who is what he is....a mediocre hitter who has averaged 38 steals per season.....so you want him to steal HOW MANY bases per year? 38? 48?
And THIS is supposed to be the difference maker in the Yankees' chances of being a playoff contender?
I say "NO", it's not.

Just hope he can stay healthy enough to play at least 145 g per year and improve upon his BA/OBP.

My post (#51) puts a lid on this crap.
 
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..."crap" is pretty accurate.

...and it didn't turn into crap until you made it so.
 
yankeesince59 said:
..."crap" is pretty accurate.

...and it didn't turn into crap until you made it so.
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From August 26 - Sept 16 the Yankees lost TEN games scoring 2 or less runs.
This stretch of games best defined, IMO, and was a microcosm of the Yankees' 2014 season and it's biggest most obvious embarrassing weakness.

In those 10 losses....in those 10 losses scoring 2 or less runs during the latest most crucial part of the season while the Yanks were very much alive for a post season spot, here's what Gardner did:

2-27, 1 SB, 1BB, 0 Runs scored.

See a pattern here?
Why didn't Gardner steal more bases and SCORE MORE RUNS during that stretch of games?

lmao




lol
 
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From August 26 - Sept 16 the Yankees lost TEN games scoring 2 or less runs.
This stretch of games best defined, IMO, and was a microcosm of the Yankees' 2014 season and it's biggest most obvious embarrassing weakness.

In those 10 losses....in those 10 losses scoring 2 or less runs during the latest most crucial part of the season while the Yanks were very much alive for a post season spot, here's what Gardner did:

2-27, 1 SB, 1BB, 0 Runs scored.

See a pattern here?
Why didn't Gardner steal more bases and SCORE MORE RUNS during that stretch of games?


Hard to steal "more" bases and score "more" runs when you reach base 3 rimes in 28 PA.


Yep....when all else fails, fling some sh!t.


Class over, school's out.
 
...learn the game...never mind. Ya know, you're not even worth it anymore.
 
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