The Worst In The NBA?

[Belarus]

Realistically, can't beat Knicks without 2 starters (ok Kidd didn't play), can't beat Wiz without Arenas. And effort is just not there. To me, they are the worst. An embarrasment.</p>

 

[Jizzy]

yes, definetly. it's embarrasing, jsut simply...unbeleivable.</p>

 

[kissmynenads]

not the worst but steadily moving in that direction</p>

 

[pegs]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kissmynenads)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

not the worst but steadily moving in that direction</p>

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Welcome to S2, kissmynenads! Nice name, haha. If you need anything, PM me!</p>

And yeah, it seems like we're the worst. I mean, at least most teams can actually stay close for a whole game...us, we can't even beat teams without some of their best players. Pretty pathetic.</p>

 

[razel231]

Blowing it up is what many fans may be thinking right now. But i am of the mind that management wants to keep the players. Even if you think of blowing it up the only true assets this team has that would bring in something for the future are Carter, Kidd, and Jefferson. I don't see that bringing anything of equal value especially with the way the team is playing. Thorn loves Kidd, Ratners loves VC, and Jefferson is home grown talent. I for one am starting my annual LFrank watch. Changing coaches is always the easiest of moves that can be made by a team.</p>

 

[Universe]

We have to be close to it. We cannot say we do not have Marcus or Nenad because they are not that good.</p>

 

[#1_War_Poet_ForLife]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kissmynenads)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

not the worst but steadily moving in that direction</p>

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Welcome to S2, kissmynenads! Nice name, haha. If you need anything, PM me!</p>

And yeah, it seems like we're the worst. I mean, at least most teams can actually stay close for a whole game...us, we can't even beat teams without some of their best players. Pretty pathetic.</p>

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<font size="1" color="#ff0000">Sorry MNFL but we can't link to the other forum, but it's good to see a familiar face around here for sure! </font></p>

Horribly bad, and way lower than we should be. But not the worst.</p>

 

[kissmynenads]

thanks for the welcome</p>

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the team usually takes on the attitude of the coach and their captain. right now the coach is lost and the captain is uninspired. so until those two get their acts together we we'll continue to see a team that looks lost and uninspired.I hate to say blow up, but what exactly are we really hanging onto?</p>

 

[reganomics813]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

We have to be close to it. We cannot say we do not have Marcus or Nenad because they are not that good.</p>

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They don't even have to be that good all they need to be themselves and bring the added dimensions this team is lacking. Not having a backup pg who can run an offense and a low post big who can draw defenders out of the paint are two big losses for our team and has left us with guys who are decent end of bench additions playing way way too many minutes. Yer right we're not getting allstars back but we will be getting back major pieces to our overall puzzle.</p>

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[Jizzy]

this team blows hard</p>

 

[ghoti]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (reganomics813)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

We have to be close to it. We cannot say we do not have Marcus or Nenad because they are not that good.</p>

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They don't even have to be that good all they need to be themselves and bring the added dimensions this team is lacking. Not having a backup pg who can run an offense and a low post big who can draw defenders out of the paint are two big losses for our team and has left us with guys who are decent end of bench additions playing way way too many minutes. Yer right we're not getting allstars back but we will be getting back major pieces to our overall puzzle.</p>

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The Nets played their best basketball of the entire season in the second quarter with Vince Carter running the offense with RJ/Boki/Armstrong/Boone.</p>

Carter played incredible basketball on both ends and everyone else - even Boone and Boki - took his lead and got stop after stop against the hapless Wizards bench.</p>

As soon as Kidd came back into the game, the whole tenor changed and nobody played any defense or moved on the offensive end.</p>

The problem is the same as it has been. The role players can't be effective because the team is constructed completely wrong.</p>

Krstic helps that a little when they bother to run plays through him - which isn't that often. Marcus isn't going to help any more than Eddie Gill if they don't fix the real problems first. (In fact, in many games he'll hurt them by trying to do too much offensively, which Gill really can't do)</p>

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[Belarus]

let me refrase ghoti = "Trade Kidd!"</p>

 

[Kiddisanet]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (reganomics813)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

We have to be close to it. We cannot say we do not have Marcus or Nenad because they are not that good.</p>

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They don't even have to be that good all they need to be themselves and bring the added dimensions this team is lacking. Not having a backup pg who can run an offense and a low post big who can draw defenders out of the paint are two big losses for our team and has left us with guys who are decent end of bench additions playing way way too many minutes. Yer right we're not getting allstars back but we will be getting back major pieces to our overall puzzle</p>

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Exactly.</p>

 

[ghoti]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

let me refrase ghoti = "Trade Kidd!"</p>

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If they do that, it's over. He's the only player good enough to build a championship team around.</p>

But, yeah. I think that might not be true anymore.</p>

In that case, Thorn is just McHale in fancier duds. He wasted a superstar's prime and won no titles.</p>

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[Belarus]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

let me refrase ghoti = "Trade Kidd!"</p>

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If they do that, it's over. He's the only player good enough to build a championship team around.</p>

But, yeah. I think that might not be true anymore.</p>

In that case, Thorn is just McHale in fancier duds. He wasted a superstar's prime and won no titles.</p>

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100%</p>

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[farouq710]

last time they started 9-11 they won 49 games. I'm sorry but I'd rather wait another month. the rockets don't have that much better of a record and they're not going to blow it up. the only reason why the media gets involved with this blow it up talk is because of our sad excuse of a captain who seems to want to bail EVERY time it looks like the ship is sinking. he did it after kenyon left and he's doing it now. the media thinks that since kidd is looking for a championship then he'd force the nets hand and make them trade him and they're not all that off. if he does get traded and win his championship somewhere else, i don't see how he or any player can get so much joy out of doing it at another city and riding some other great player's coat tails. to me it seems like an empty win. it reaffirms that they couldn't get it done and had to be a supporting player. if kidd gets traded i hope his team ends up just out of the playoffs or loses in the first round. he's pretty selfish for a guy that has as many career assists as he does. i kind of regret buying his jersey last year, i knew i should've gone with RJ.</p>

 

[ghoti]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (farouq710)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

i kind of regret buying his jersey last year, i knew i should've gone with RJ.</p>

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You should have gone with Buck Williams.</p>

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[Denny Crane]

A horrible losing season may not be the end of the world or this team as constructed. Get a lot of ping pong balls in the lottery and maybe snag a 4th guy to go along with vince/kidd/jefferson.</p>

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[farouq710]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (farouq710)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

i kind of regret buying his jersey last year, i knew i should've gone with RJ.</p>

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You should have gone with Buck Williams.</p>

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i'm too young to appreciate buck, never watched him play in person.</p>

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[ly_yng]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

let me refrase ghoti = "Trade Kidd!"</p>

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If they do that, it's over. He's the only player good enough to build a championship team around.</p>

But, yeah. I think that might not be true anymore.</p>

In that case, Thorn is just McHale in fancier duds. He wasted a superstar's prime and won no titles.</p>

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I've been as critical of Thorn as anyone, but come on, he ain't McHale. We're talking about the man who made the franchise relevant again. He's wasted the end of Kidd's career, but he got Kidd in the first place. McHale couldn't have pulled that off in a million years.</p>

With that said, I think we have the worst future of any team in the NBA. Does any franchise have a worse 6-year outlook than us right now? Seriously, name one.</p>

 

[ghoti]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (farouq710)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (farouq710)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

i kind of regret buying his jersey last year, i knew i should've gone with RJ.</p>

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You should have gone with Buck Williams.</p>

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i'm too young to appreciate buck, never watched him play in person.</p>

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I was going to compare him with a modern player to give you an idea what he was like, but guys like him are extinct in the NBA.</p>

The closest guy I could think of is a healthy and productive Emeka Okafor, and that's even a stretch.</p>

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[ghoti]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

let me refrase ghoti = "Trade Kidd!"</p>

</div></p>

If they do that, it's over. He's the only player good enough to build a championship team around.</p>

But, yeah. I think that might not be true anymore.</p>

In that case, Thorn is just McHale in fancier duds. He wasted a superstar's prime and won no titles.</p>

</p>

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</p>

I've been as critical of Thorn as anyone, but come on, he ain't McHale. We're talking about the man who made the franchise relevant again. He's wasted the end of Kidd's career, but he got Kidd in the first place. McHale couldn't have pulled that off in a million years.</p>

With that said, I think we have the worst future of any team in the NBA. Does any franchise have a worse 6-year outlook than us right now? Seriously, name one.</p>

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He traded Marbury to the Clippers and it fell through.</p>

He's McHale with Forrest Gump-like luck. (Right, Portland?)</p>

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[pegs]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

let me refrase ghoti = "Trade Kidd!"</p>

</div></p>

If they do that, it's over. He's the only player good enough to build a championship team around.</p>

But, yeah. I think that might not be true anymore.</p>

In that case, Thorn is just McHale in fancier duds. He wasted a superstar's prime and won no titles.</p>

</p>

</div></p>

</p>

I've been as critical of Thorn as anyone, but come on, he ain't McHale. We're talking about the man who made the franchise relevant again. He's wasted the end of Kidd's career, but he got Kidd in the first place. McHale couldn't have pulled that off in a million years.</p>

With that said, I think we have the worst future of any team in the NBA. Does any franchise have a worse 6-year outlook than us right now? Seriously, name one.</p>

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6-year outlook? I dunno, but the Knicks are lookin pretty bad right now and in the next couple years.</p>

 

[GMJ]

haha before I went to page 2 of this thread I was thinking the Knicks, too.</p>

 

[razel231]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'>He traded Marbury to the Clippers and it fell through.</p>

He's McHale with Forrest Gump-like luck. (Right, Portland?)</p>

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Backstory please.</p>

 

[Kid Chocolate]

[quote name='ghoti']</p>

[quote name='farouq710']</p>

[quote name='ghoti']</p>

[quote name='farouq710']</p>

i kind of regret buying his jersey last year, i knew i should've gone with RJ.</p>

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You should have gone with Buck Williams.</p>

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[/QUOTE]</p>

i'm too young to appreciate buck, never watched him play in person.</p>

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[/QUOTE]</p>

I was going to compare him with a modern player to give you an idea what he was like, but guys like him are extinct in the NBA.</p>

The closest guy I could think of is a healthy and productive Emeka Okafor, and that's even a stretch.</p>

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[/QUOTE]</p>

I was trying to think of a comparison myself, and couldn't get anywhere closer. I leaned toward Elton Brand.</p>

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[bronbron23]

I duno Miami are sucking arse right now, I mean NJ are pretty awful but take a look at Miami.</p>

 

[jarkid]

Worst team in the NBA, i totally agree.</p>

 

[ToddMacCulloch11]

I'll say one of the worst, but not the worst. Yet.</p>

 

[ly_yng]

Touche' on the Knicks, but they have an unlimited payroll, they sell out even when they're terrible, and they're getting a new GM in the next 8 months. They've still got the Dolan Factor though, which pretty much mitigates all of that.</p>

The Heat may look bad now, but they've got Dwayne Wade, a guy who was the best player on a title team, and he's staying in Miami for the next decade.</p>

As I think about it, the Knicks shouldn't count. They're basically a CBA franchise at this point. I think the Washington Generals have a better long-term outlook than they do.</p>

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