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The Rockets took Dame and CJ out of the game effectively...only way to win was for Crabbe, Harkless, Davis, etc...score in double digits and they didn't...so to me that was the difference and Howard played at a very high level last night..They wore us down by the endgame. I don't think it's a coaching failure, but a failure to execute on offense when you need to counter punch against Howard and Harden both having hot shooting nights.
 
The same thing can be said for people farting rainbows and unicorns when we are barely over .500 and went on a winning streak. Hopefully the people puffing their chests and thinking we are contenders can meet in the middle too. The team has weaknesses and as we play longer together and teams take notice of us, they will have game plans, I think teams still thought we sucked until the past two months. It's what we do after teams start adjusting I'm waiting for.

Oh Ive been here during the up and sown parts of the season, other than when life has got in the way and im away for a few days at a time.

Ill will also go on record as noticing and acknowledge when I went through the prediction thread, It sure seemed like the Homers were blasted alot more than we/they actually were. I think Ive been a pretty heavy proponent to the pessimists giving us Homers flack, when its really been more 50/50 I think.

In the end, all good, I think we all want the same thing, just feel differently on how we get there. :)
 
Oh Ive been here during the up and sown parts of the season, other than when life has got in the way and im away for a few days at a time.

Ill will also go on record as noticing and acknowledge when I went through the prediction thread, It sure seemed like the Homers were blasted alot more than we/they actually were. I think Ive been a pretty heavy proponent to the pessimists giving us Homers flack, when its really been more 50/50 I think.

In the end, all good, I think we all want the same thing, just feel differently on how we get there. :)
Of course. We all are obsessed with the blazers otherwise we wouldnt spend so much time on s2. I'm just a big proponent of never being complacent, always looking to improve.
 
Meh. I think it's cool that we all band together to support the team. IMO it looks cool as shit to see a sea of red or whatever color.

Its lame and contrived. Coordinated fandom isn't my cup of tea.
 
All of the things he referenced has happened in multiple games in multiple years... so it's not so dismissive. It sucks that it happened last night, but it's not an isolated incident, unfortunately.
Exactly.

Stotts is either A) stubborn as shit or B) doesn't realize when it's time to switch things up on either end of the court.
 
We started the same way against the nets and Utah we start play together at the beginning then in the middle we get away from it and the other team gets back in the game. First 2 games we pull it out in the last 5 minutes last night we wasn't that lucky. So the lesson they should have learn is stick what got them the big lead not go off started playing individual ball.Playas team both ends of the court. That got
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How Well has the Trail Blazers' Bench Performed This Year?
By Eric Griffith@DeeringTornado on Feb 24, 2016, 9:26a 215

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The Portland Trail Blazers have a solid bench for the first time in half a decade. So why do the stats suggest that they're only average?



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Gerald Henderson. Moe Harkless. Allen Crabbe. "Phys. Ed" Davis. Meyers Leonard. For the first time in a half-decade the Portland Trail Blazersand their fans don't need to panic when the starters leave the court and the bench players enter the game.

The emergence of Portland's overhauled bench mob has paid dividends recently - the reserves have been a key factor in the team's six-game winning streak. Crabbe has thrived as a third guard, Davis has proven himself to be one of the best rebounding reserves in the league, and Henderson and Harkless have both recovered from slow starts.


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It is thus perhaps surprising to learn that, statistically, the Blazers reserves do not necessarily stand out compared to other teams. This table shows the per game averages for the bench, and the Blazers' rank among the 30 NBA teams (green = top 25 percent, red = bottom 25 percent):



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The Blazer backups are totally average at 3-point shooting, drawing fouls, blocking shots, and scoring points. Despite Damian Lillard's assertion that the bench sometimes generates a lead, they have a negative plus/minus split, which suggests that reserve players have been outscored on the whole.

Not surprisingly, the bench leads the league in rebounding. This is likely due in large part to Davis' 7.2 rebounds per game. The Blazers are also second to last in assists, which is also expected. Stotts has assigned nearly all ball-handling and playmaking duties to his starting guards, so there are few chances for backup players to act as primary distributors.

But given the low playmaking expectations it is concerning that the Blazers are No. 24 in turnovers at 6.1 per game. Meyers Leonard is the primary turnover culprit; he leads all reserves with 1.4 per game. This is especially problematic given that he averages only 1.6 assists per game and rarely handles the ball closer than 15 feet to the basket.

The Blazer reserves also shoot well from the field, finishing third in field goal percentage. Davis leads this category at 60.7 percent, while Crabbe is second at 47.8. Together they account for 6.4 field goals per game, nearly half of Portland's average.


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The advanced numbers are slightly more kind, but still do not make the Blazers bench look above average:





With the advanced stats, the Blazers still have a great rebounding bench, and a very poor passing bench. The disparity between the TS% and eFG% represents a low free throw rate (TS% considers free throws, eFG% does not).

Perhaps the best news is that the team's reserves have a top six offensive rating. That, however, is offset by a slightly below average defense, which yields a net rating -0.8, No. 14 in the league. The Blazers are almost exactly average according to those numbers.

So what's going on here? Why do the stats suggest that the Blazers' bench is, overall, about average, but the eye test has told us that the bench has excelled?

First, it's possible that those observing the team have been disproportionately impressed by average play because they had grown used to watching a historically bad bench. Last season, for example, Stotts leaned heavily on aging veterans Steve Blake and Chris Kaman as the team aspired to make a deep playoff run. That was, somehow, a massive improvement over 2013 when Ronnie Price,Victor Claver, rookie Meyers Leonard, and Sasha Pavlovic all averaged more than 13 minutes per game.

Given that recent history it has been a relief to see Davis replace Joel Freeland at backup power forward and 2016 Allen Crabbe replace 2015 Allen Crabbe. Add in the recent excellent play of Henderson and Harkless, and it's easy to get excited about this year's bench compared to the last couple seasons.

The talent gap between the starters and bench players has also closed this season. For the last three seasons, the starters were clearly superior to their reserve counterparts. This season, outside of McCollum and Lillard, the gap between the players has become negligible. Davis, for example, outplays Noah Vonleh on an almost nightly basis and Crabbe is often the third best player on the team. The lack of clear demarcation in talent between the starters and reserves may be skewing perceptions of how good the bench actually is.

That being said, the numbers do not necessarily support the idea that the talent gap between the Blazers' starters and reserves is closer than for other teams around the league. This table shows the difference in advanced statistics between the two units, and how the Blazers rank compared to other teams (Note: for all stats, including defensive rating, positive numbers indicate that that the bench unit is statistically outperforming the starting unit):





These numbers suggest that the starters and bench are about even with the rest of the league for differences in production. The exception being the aforementioned high rebounding and low assist rate for the bench. Having a league average bench is still a step forward for the Blazers, but it should be acknowledged that the gap between the starters and bench is not exceptionally narrow.

The decline in the effectiveness of the starters has also dramatically lowered expectations for the team. Given preseason expectations, the bench unit has been allowed more leeway to make mistakes than over the previous two years, and accordingly have been judged more leniently. Simply put, when a team is on pace to win 50+ games the bench players will be crucified if their mistakes result in losses. But when you're expected to win 30 games, at most, the bench is allowed a longer leash as player development takes precedent over victories.

Leonard, for example, was allowed to make repeated obvious mistakes and stayed in the rotation until very recently. Harkless, after months of ineffective play, was given a second chance and has thrived. Stotts continued to play Henderson, despite several weeks of atrocious play, as the backup guard recovered from off-season hip surgery. Those players would have cost the team victories last season so it's unlikely they would have seen the court as often as they did this season. Thus, the lowered expectations have allowed several players to work through rough spots that may have relegated them permanently to the pine last season. As such, stats may not be reflecting the apex that Harkless and Henderson seemed to have reached in the last month.

It's also important to note that defense is not considered in many of the stats listed. Massive improvements on defense have been one of the key reasons for the Blazers' surge up the standings over the course of the last month. In the last ten games the team has had the third best defensive rating in the league (99.0), and the bench has had the fifth best defensive rating (100.2). The bench's net rating in those games is 8.3, good for fourth overall. It seems likely that the bench has given the team a defensive boost in recent weeks that is not captured by the stats listed above. The reserves' offensive numbers could also be depressed by the constant presence of either Lillard or McCollum. Stotts has made it a goal to keep one of his starting guards on the floor at all times, which means that reserve players rarely initiate the offense or control the ball. That may be reducing their statistical presence.

In the end, the unexpectedly average statistics of the Portland bench may not matter. The team has been winning at an incredible rate (best record in the league over the last month!) while playing a nine or 10-man rotation. The low preseason expectations appear to have helped the bench by giving several players time to work their way into their roles and they are now thriving. At this point, it's clear that, much like Stotts' previous teams, the Blazers reserves have created a whole that is greater than the sum of its parts.

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them going on the win streak get back to that type game
 
The biggest thing I learned from this game is we need a legitimate rim protector.


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Eh. I hate him too, but he did well last night. Although, I've never seen a "superstar" that looks so aloof ALL THE TIME... he looks like he's bored all the time.
That's why he wears a beard for disguise........
 
Its lame and contrived. Coordinated fandom isn't my cup of tea.

I think the thing is, you have to see it as an intimidation factor and take away the fandom on this one. Yeah, the shirts often don't fit the best (be smart and trade with people around you), but put yourself in the opponents shoes. Its intimidating to see an arena of crazed fans all swimming in a sea of the team colors. Shit, the Timbers stand up and do a Roman battle march. Its crazy intimidating. Ill gladly wear the shirt and sacrifice some minor discomfort in the attempt to provide a unifying crowd of lunacy thrust down upon the opponent.
 
I disagree. Blazermaniacs don't coordinate their fandom by team issued shirts. Its super lame. So i cant rock this black jersey because the team gave away 5 dollar shirts?

Towels are the way to go.
 
Things we already knew, but last night reinforced them:
1) Stotts doesn't adjust well on the fly, and that goes for both offense and defense
2) Stotts is stubborn to double team and/or switch up the defense
3) Stotts is overall a good coach but an unlikely to ever win a ring as the man in charge

All of the things he referenced has happened in multiple games in multiple years... so it's not so dismissive. It sucks that it happened last night, but it's not an isolated incident, unfortunately.

Exactly.

Stotts is either A) stubborn as shit or B) doesn't realize when it's time to switch things up on either end of the court.



Holy....did you watch the game last night? With all do respect, your just wrong. Many of you are wrong about Stotts being stubborn and not switching things up.

something you guys are forgetting, much like so many do in this instant world where so many of us are too near sited to view the broad, long term picture.

This season has been, and even with all its success, will continue to be an experiment while providing growth. Line ups HAVE changed throughout the season, both in the starting 5 and the primary bench players.

The thing is when you are trying something, just because it doesn't work initially or instantly, doesn't mean you scrap it and have to try something new. Maybe it does with a team full of vets, but not with a young team who is developing.. they need time... games... to get it down.
As a coach, you would be putting your players individually and your team as a whole in a lose lose situation if you switch it up so often, no one can get comfortable with a role.
What Stotts did last night was fantastic and he rolled with the team. He went small with the smaller teams and goes big with the bigger teams. He is trying to allow the players time enough on the court with certain plays and situations to get a feel for it. These things take time.

Stotts had the hardest job of any coach in the league coming into the season and has embraced the challenge, exceeded expectations and has been VERY versatile overall. Not only has he had to figure this team out... who can and cant do what, who works well with who, etc, but he has had to do that in the midst of preparing for a new opponent each night. That is a daunting task for the best of them and the main reason why the most notable coaches of nba past don't normally take a position like this. They wait for a bonafied contending team with a superstar first, ala Jackson, Riley, etc...

Holy, I think your last quote I posted above is of some fairly ignorant opinion making. I suggest you go review more tape of how Stotts handles game time situations like last night and overt the course ofthe season. but this time keep in mind the need for development. See what you come up with. Until you do, I cant take you seriously, because I don't think your on the same page with what Blazers management has been trying to accomplish... and succeeding at it.
 
Holy....did you watch the game last night? With all do respect, your just wrong. Many of you are wrong about Stotts being stubborn and not switching things up.

something you guys are forgetting, much like so many do in this instant world where so many of us are too near sited to view the broad, long term picture.

This season has been, and even with all its success, will continue to be an experiment while providing growth. Line ups HAVE changed throughout the season, both in the starting 5 and the primary bench players.

The thing is when you are trying something, just because it doesn't work initially or instantly, doesn't mean you scrap it and have to try something new. Maybe it does with a team full of vets, but not with a young team who is developing.. they need time... games... to get it down.
As a coach, you would be putting your players individually and your team as a whole in a lose lose situation if you switch it up so often, no one can get comfortable with a role.
What Stotts did last night was fantastic and he rolled with the team. He went small with the smaller teams and goes big with the bigger teams. He is trying to allow the players time enough on the court with certain plays and situations to get a feel for it. These things take time.

Stotts had the hardest job of any coach in the league coming into the season and has embraced the challenge, exceeded expectations and has been VERY versatile overall. Not only has he had to figure this team out... who can and cant do what, who works well with who, etc, but he has had to do that in the midst of preparing for a new opponent each night. That is a daunting task for the best of them and the main reason why the most notable coaches of nba past don't normally take a position like this. They wait for a bonafied contending team with a superstar first, ala Jackson, Riley, etc...

Holy, I think your last quote I posted above is of some fairly ignorant opinion making. I suggest you go review more tape of how Stotts handles game time situations like last night and overt the course ofthe season. but this time keep in mind the need for development. See what you come up with. Until you do, I cant take you seriously, because I don't think your on the same page with what Blazers management has been trying to accomplish... and succeeding at it.

you do realize all of these were posted before last night's game. lol. SOrry, your first line made me giggle.
 
I think the thing I learned after the Houston lost was that my expectations and emotional investment with this team, against my will and without me even knowing, have changed dramatically. For the majority of the year I've tried to be apathetic so that all of the losses and expected failures of the team wouldn't sting as much. But I realized I've really started to care about winning games this year.
 
I think the thing I learned after the Houston lost was that my expectations and emotional investment with this team, against my will and without me even knowing, have changed dramatically. For the majority of the year I've tried to be apathetic so that all of the losses and expected failures of the team wouldn't sting as much. But I realized I've really started to care about winning games this year.
Same here; I'd spent all season feeling pretty okay after losses but that loss to Houston stung hard
 

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