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I know Im not the only one. Who here is considering buying a firearm because of what is happening in the world today, especially in the USA? The video ABM just posted, while of an extreme opinion, could be a possibility. Whos to say what the people in this country who have lost all hope will do. Could home burglaries, and crime in general, soon be on the rise?

What if things got to extremes and to try to stop more violence the Government put a temporary ban on firearms? All of a sudden you cant get a gun and the governments plan didnt help, violence is still rising, and there you are with nothing more than a kitchen knife or baseball bat to protect your home with burglaries happening in your neighborhood more and more often.

While what I mention probably wont happen, the chances of it happening have undoubtedly risen. So have these types of thoughts (or other reasons) made you consider going out and buying a gun?

Better safe than sorry right?

Personally it has made me want to get a gun. I have shot firearms only two different instances in my life so a gun safety & use class would go along with the purchase. Buy a gun for $250-500 now...how much would you be willing to buy a gun for when a group of people are breaking into your house?
 
I'm not too worried personally. I live in an apartment building on the top floor. If someone wants to steal my shitty TV, go ahead. I do keep a stungun in my front car door pocket though, just in case.
 
I was recently speaking with a fellow who lives near Chattanooga, TN, and he said gun sales have gone through the roof down there. Store owners can't even keep them on the shelves.
 
yeah. i don't know the laws on that shit but with crazy ass LA Road Ragers, its pretty good to have. not gonna be the next reginald denny.
 
I don't need a gun, I have an overprotective, aggressive, eighty pound GSD. Well, that and I don't have anything worth stealing, LOL.
 
DaRizzle said:
I know Im not the only one. Who here is considering buying a firearm because of what is happening in the world today, especially in the USA? The video ABM just posted, while of an extreme opinion, could be a possibility. Whos to say what the people in this country who have lost all hope will do. Could home burglaries, and crime in general, soon be on the rise?

What if things got to extremes and to try to stop more violence the Government put a temporary ban on firearms? All of a sudden you cant get a gun and the governments plan didnt help, violence is still rising, and there you are with nothing more than a kitchen knife or baseball bat to protect your home with burglaries happening in your neighborhood more and more often.

While what I mention probably wont happen, the chances of it happening have undoubtedly risen. So have these types of thoughts (or other reasons) made you consider going out and buying a gun?

Better safe than sorry right?

Personally it has made me want to get a gun. I have shot firearms only two different instances in my life so a gun safety & use class would go along with the purchase. Buy a gun for $250-500 now...how much would you be willing to buy a gun for when a group of people are breaking into your house?
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geezuz krist
 
Shooter said:
I was recently speaking with a fellow who lives near Chattanooga, TN, and he said gun sales have gone through the roof down there. Store owners can't even keep them on the shelves.
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A lot of that has to do with folks who are paranoid about Obama clamping down on guns though. There is more than one reason folks are buying guns these days. Some are just enthusiest who want to get certain items before a new brady bill passes and bans them again.
 
There is this idiot in my dorm, fuck he is an idiot. First of all he wears a belt on the inside of his jeans that carries a knife, and also when he wakes up everyday he puts on this chest strap things that looks like a heart monitor, so he can carry another knife on his chest (he has stabbed himself 4 times trying to put the knife in). He does this all because he is a idiot, and he thinks he's cool. He once said he felt unsafe because he didnt have one of his knives on him... unsafe in freaking Fargo. Well he is always blabbing about guns and war and how cool it is and shit like that, and that fucking moron just told us that last weekend he bought a AR-15 machine gun. He doesn't house it here (the minute I see it is the minute I get my hall director, I don't trust the prick), but the guy is just stupid. He doesn't have it for any reason but to say he has it, and the guy is an idiot and I won't be shocked if he ends up shooting himself. We can only hope...
 
i dont have any out here, but i have a russian ak (kinda old and a pos) a 9 mm, and a shiny fucking dirty harry .45 revolver in california. they are no cooler or more evil than any other toy, they can kill people, but so can cars and they let morons drive.

they are a pure luxury item, unless you go to the range all the time. cool to have, but more like a collector item in my case, i enjoy looking at them more than i like shooting people with them.
 
Rizzle, I'm an NRA firearms instructor part time. PM me and maybe I can help.
 
Most people that try and stop someone from breaking into their house with a gun, end up shooting themselves or a family member. BTW you might want to stop driving, because you have a higher % chance of dying from that then from a riot.
 
eh, fuck guns. should have never been invented in the first place. someone really dropped the ball on that one.
 
3 houses on my block in Vegas burglarized in the last month. Thieves kicked in the front doors while people weren't home (or the houses empty). It's a decent neighborhood, too, with lots of retired military and police and the likes living there.

Desperate times drive people to do desperate things. Even people who are good otherwise.

As for me, I have a blowdart gun.

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I was planning on buying one anyway, once I'm of age (don't know when 'of age' is, but oh well).
 
I have to say I am disturbed by the tone of the poster's question. It seems like the kind of rant you hear on AM talk radio and on certain Web sites. "Someone is going to take our guns!!" In fact, although I don't claim to be an expert on the subject, the only blanket restrictions on gun ownership I am aware of are that felons in many states are not allowed to own guns, and during Jim Crow, for nearly a century, African-Americans were prohibited from owning firearms. The "someone is taking our guns" rant reached hysteria levels when President Obama was elected - Obama is going to take "our" (white people's) guns, the corrollary, sometimes explicitly stated, was that he was going to arm Black men. Bullshit. No one is "taking our guns" and that crap should not be the basis of such a serious choice.

I am not saying buy or don't buy; it's not my decision. But I would ask the poster to get off the Web, shut off the radio, and so some serious investigating and questioning. Because hotheadedness and guns are a really really bad combination.

Some things to find out:

Is there real evidence your community is significantly more dangerous than it was six months ago?

Do you know how to use firearms? Are you familiar with firearm safety?

Do you know all the licensing and registration requirements in your community?

Are you prepared, in a split second, to decide if a situation is merely annoying, or life threatening? Are you prepared to stake your life or someone else's life on that decision? Ponder how many times trained police officers make the wrong decision. Are you trained?

What are your plans for this gun? Would you keep it with you 24/7? If you work for a living, your workplace almost certainly has a no weapons policy. Would you keep the gun in your car? What if it were stolen? What would your legal liabilities be in that case?

Do you plan to just keep it at home? Would it be at your side at all times? That means loaded and not locked up. Can you be sure some innocent person, especially a child, would not pick it up? Are you aware of how many children are killed and injured in gun accidents?

Would you, awakened from a sound sleep, be sure that the noise you hear is an intruder and not your spouse, child, pet, or imagination?

If you actually shot an intruder who turned out to be unarmed, what are the legal penalties you would face?

Can you be sure a malefactor could not get the gun from you and use it against you?

Are you aware of the statistical likelihood of your using your gun to prevent a crime against your person or property versus the statistical likelihood of your gun shooting the "wrong" (innocent) person?

If your concern is the safety of your home, would it be more effective, if less macho, to install strong locks and a security system?

Are you prepared to kill someone?

I don't claim to have answers. Some of this would require research, some are questions you should ask yourself. But don't buy a gun based on a rant. Guns, despite the NRA, do kill people. You are not talking about hunting or skeet shooting, you are talking about shooting a person. Get some information before you risk yours or another's life. And if you say you don't care if a bad guy/woman is killed, you should care if you do 25 years for it.
 
hoojacks said:
eh, fuck guns. should have never been invented in the first place. someone really dropped the ball on that one.
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Yeah, right. We should have just stuck with clubs, knives, and spears. Much more humane way of killing someone.
 
Love how we fall under bad economic times and people steal TV's, Radio and BS they dont need. Why not go steal from Safeway and actually get FOOD. Heck if you are lucky you get a free trip to county and free food for days without the hassle.
 
crandc said:
I have to say I am disturbed by the tone of the poster's question. It seems like the kind of rant you hear on AM talk radio and on certain Web sites. "Someone is going to take our guns!!" In fact, although I don't claim to be an expert on the subject, the only blanket restrictions on gun ownership I am aware of are that felons in many states are not allowed to own guns, and during Jim Crow, for nearly a century, African-Americans were prohibited from owning firearms. The "someone is taking our guns" rant reached hysteria levels when President Obama was elected - Obama is going to take "our" (white people's) guns, the corrollary, sometimes explicitly stated, was that he was going to arm Black men. Bullshit. No one is "taking our guns" and that crap should not be the basis of such a serious choice.
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Im 99.9% sure they wouldnt put a temp ban on guns but desperate time and they might do desperate measures...who knows.





Is there real evidence your community is significantly more dangerous than it was six months ago?
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Not that Im aware of.

Do you know how to use firearms? Are you familiar with firearm safety?
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No, thats why I would take a class on both subjects
Do you know all the licensing and registration requirements in your community?
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No, but I would before I made the purchase

Are you prepared, in a split second, to decide if a situation is merely annoying, or life threatening? Are you prepared to stake your life or someone else's life on that decision? Ponder how many times trained police officers make the wrong decision. Are you trained?
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If there is somebody trying to bash down my door that isnt merely annoying. If I hear somebody in the living room and I yell "Cops are coming and I have a gun" and they dont run off...its open season on them IF they try to get in my room...no friend would play a joke like that.


What are your plans for this gun? Would you keep it with you 24/7? If you work for a living, your workplace almost certainly has a no weapons policy. Would you keep the gun in your car? What if it were stolen? What would your legal liabilities be in that case?
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The only place that gun would be is unloaded under my mattress, with a clip sitting right next to it

Do you plan to just keep it at home? Would it be at your side at all times? That means loaded and not locked up. Can you be sure some innocent person, especially a child, would not pick it up? Are you aware of how many children are killed and injured in gun accidents?
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No children are ever in my home, I obviously would re-evaluate how I store it if there was a child in the home.

Would you, awakened from a sound sleep, be sure that the noise you hear is an intruder and not your spouse, child, pet, or imagination?
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Im not gonna be doing no sneak up attack..I sleep with my bedroom door locked. If I hear somebody breaking in Im staying in my room telling them Im there with a gun and cops coming. Im only shooting if they try to break down my door and dont stop after warnings.

If you actually shot an intruder who turned out to be unarmed, what are the legal penalties you would face?
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I can protect my private property from an intruder, thats all I know

Can you be sure a malefactor could not get the gun from you and use it against you?
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Im a really big dude if that makes a difference


Are you aware of the statistical likelihood of your using your gun to prevent a crime against your person or property versus the statistical likelihood of your gun shooting the "wrong" (innocent) person?
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No


If your concern is the safety of your home, would it be more effective, if less macho, to install strong locks and a security system?
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I have good locks, Im not putting a sec system in an apt I dont own

Are you prepared to kill someone?
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If they are prepared to kill/injure me...yes
 
Denny Crane said:
3 houses on my block in Vegas burglarized in the last month. Thieves kicked in the front doors while people weren't home (or the houses empty). It's a decent neighborhood, too, with lots of retired military and police and the likes living there.

Desperate times drive people to do desperate things. Even people who are good otherwise.

As for me, I have a blowdart gun.

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Just don't suck 'in' when you're using it.
 
If I bought a gun, I know I would use it, probably kill someone. I have a short fuse and a "kill first, ask questions later" attitude.
 
I'm not the one you have to answer to, or rather, to whom you need to answer.

Just to clarify, by annoying vs. life threatening, I was thinking more along the lines of someone grabs you on the street, is it an obnoxious, disgusting, but not really dangerous drunk, or a thug with designs on your purse, virtue, and life?

A male friend some years ago showed me his handgun. He thought I should get one because I'm a woman living alone (well, I had 2 cats) in Oakland. I decided not to for the exact reason that I would not have a gun in the bathroom when taking a shower, in the kitchen when cooking dinner, etc. And because I am exactly the sort of klutz who would shoot her own foot off.

Probably also has something to do with no one in my family ever owning a gun so far as I know.

Im 99.9% sure they wouldnt put a temp ban on guns but desperate time and they might do desperate measures...who knows.
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Not sure who "they" are, but at any rate, if "they" put a ban on guns it could well apply to those purchased. It would also require suspending the constitution.

I can protect my private property from an intruder, thats all I know
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I don't know current law where you live but I do know of an actual case, it was in the news, where a man broke into a home and was shot and killed by the homeowner. The intruder was unarmed and in another room so it was not considered the homeowner or his family were in imminent danger. He was convicted of manslaughter. You can argue pro or con, but do need to find out what the law is in these cases.

At least you seem to be taking this seriously.
 
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