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as long as we're pining for idiots, why not bring back BenDavis503, ODENISGOD, mlps2000, mixum, and PapaG?
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this forum needs yega1979 like it needs the plague
as long as we're pining for idiots, why not bring back BenDavis503, ODENISGOD, mlps2000, mixum, and PapaG?
Just found out last night that one of these guys is already back here posting......
Who in the hell is yega?
Who the hell is PapaG?
If by "on board", that I understand how there's a difference between the melting temperature of steel and the temperature required to weaken it enough the floors would pancake, then yes.

its pretty clearly a demolition all around, the towers were built specifically to withstand a plane strike, and even in a "pancake", the center steel spine would be standing there like a spire.
even a skeptic of conspiracies should be able to admit that there are some strange circumstances surrounding the 3 collapses
My guess on this is how they were designed and built are two different things.
They were designed to withstand a plane strike but remember this is NY in the 1960's and 70's. But just because they were designed that way doesn't mean that's the way they were actually built. The mob ruled construction via the unions, contractors, suppliers and inspectors. If someone could get away with providing a lower quality material to the job site I'm willing to bet they did it and pocketed the savings.
Like I said it's only a guess.
Good Lord, not this argument again. Dan Sesil is a structural engineer with whom I've worked and who I have known personally for a couple of decades. He explained to me exactly what happened with the buildings (buildings he knew well, BTW). The building was designed for a 707 without a full load of fuel and not going in at military power. The fireproof coating on the structural steel blew off at the impact. The pancaking effect means greater and greater pressure is built up with each floor collapsing. It's as simple as the physics equation: force = mass * acceleration.
I don't buy it. How did the government manage to take off the fireproof coating at the same time that it detonated the charges?
Ed O.
the fireproofing was "redone" just before the attacks
Good Lord, not this argument again. Dan Sesil is a structural engineer with whom I've worked and who I have known personally for a couple of decades. He explained to me exactly what happened with the buildings (buildings he knew well, BTW). The building was designed for a 707 without a full load of fuel and not going in at military power. The fireproof coating on the structural steel blew off at the impact. The pancaking effect means greater and greater pressure is built up with each floor collapsing. It's as simple as the physics equation: force = mass * acceleration.
