This is the most excited I have been about this team since we traded for Scottie

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Since we will see a Lillard in Scoot, McCollum in Shaerpe, and a solid Center in Ayton, all we need is to trade them picks for a Young Super Star.

I hope someone bites! Or at least trade up to 1 when there is a sure thing!!!
 
Natebishop3 said:
He might just be Chris Paul with the body of a linebacker. Lol
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Chris Paul with Dame's mindset. That has been my NBA comp for him for a while. I don't think he has the kinda explosiveness that Russ/Rose had. Also think Scoot is a much better facilitator than either of those guys. I think Scoot will end up owning the midrange while having terrific timing and court vision.

I think he'll end up being a decent defender and won't get hunted, but nothing more than that.
 
This team is young. I'm not excited about our coaching or our ownership group.

I'm in wait and see. I was far more excited about Roy/Aldridge/Oden as well as Pippen.

But hoping for the best. I'm 100% in support of this team.
 
As with a lot of others, I'm just excited for something new. The Groundhog Day scenario that played out every year with this franchise had become stale and old. Excited for a new cast of characters and the chance to see these young guys grow into their roles. I'm not there on the Scottie teams or the Roy/LMA/GO excitement level, because those were off the charts, but as an out of stater, this team has me seriously thinking about getting a League Pass subscription again.
 
This is the most excited I've been since I had that dream about Billie Piper.
 
Phatguysrule said:
This team is young. I'm not excited about our coaching or our ownership group.

I'm in wait and see. I was far more excited about Roy/Aldridge/Oden as well as Pippen.

But hoping for the best. I'm 100% in support of this team.
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I like Billups coaching this team. Almost a perfect fit because I think he still struggles with some of the high level parts of coaching (x/o’s, timeouts and substitutions) but all of that can improve the more he coaches. His personality caters to young guys he can teach and motivate. He has a vision to be like Pistons just needs to be careful because times have changed and that old school team wouldn’t work in todays NBA.

I do like that he’s wanted to push tempo that’s going to be our strength
 
Natebishop3 said:
The last time I was this excited about the future of the team, we traded for Pippen. I was camping when it happened. My dad and I were sitting around camp listening to the radio as the rumors continued to pour in. That team was ready to contend. This team is rebuilding, but the excitement is still the same.

It's crazy how this team reminds me of the 96-97 team.

Bob went out and got Sheed, JR Rider, and signed Kenny Anderson. He drafted Jermaine. He traded for Augmon mid season. The next summer he signed Brian Grant and traded for Damon halfway through the season.

I haven't seen a GM flip a roster like this since Whitsitt.

I actually think it's arguable that this team has more young talent than that Blazers team. It took them two years to make some noise. I think it might take about that same amount of time for this group to put it together. I'm excited to see it happen.
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1996 was an elite oregonian sports page summer.

elite.
 
1 Eye Jack said:
I like Billups coaching this team. Almost a perfect fit because I think he still struggles with some of the high level parts of coaching (x/o’s, timeouts and substitutions) but all of that can improve the more he coaches. His personality caters to young guys he can teach and motivate. He has a vision to be like Pistons just needs to be careful because times have changed and that old school team wouldn’t work in todays NBA.

I do like that he’s wanted to push tempo that’s going to be our strength
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I'm hopeful, for sure. But what I've seen of Billups so far doesn't instill much confidence, let alone excitement.

But certainly hoping he proves me wrong.

Same with ownership. I'm not sure if Jody is the problem, but I want Vulcan out of the picture.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I'm hopeful, for sure. But what I've seen of Billups so far doesn't instill much confidence, let alone excitement.
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So, just to state the obvious...He's been coaching teams with the intention to tank while trying to keep Dame stats happy. Not sure what you expected to see from him, but this is the first real look at what he can do.
 
bemac said:
So, just to state the obvious...He's been coaching teams with the intention to tank while trying to keep Dame stats happy. Not sure what you expected to see from him, but this is the first real look at what he can do.
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And I hope he's successful. I've not been impressed by him thus far. I hope to be impressed moving forward, though I have seen nothing of Billups that excites me.
I'm sorry if I wasn't clear on that.
 
This is a make or break year for Chauncey. I think our focus will be on winning sooner rather than later because our youth has a ton of experience already. Ant/Ayton/Rob/Tisse will all be entering their primes. Scoot is advanced for his age.

I'm anticipating that wins will start to matter beginning next season, so Chauncey will be judged this season on habits and teaching. No more tanking and excuses. Style of play and defensive improvement also will be judged. While the actual numbef of games we win won't matrer now, there needs to be growth and building towards that.

He has a contract through the end of next season, so he will be entering a lame duck year in the summer of 24. Evaluation will start now.
 
Phatguysrule said:
And I hope he's successful. I've not been impressed by him thus far. I hope to be impressed moving forward, though I have seen nothing of Billups that excites me.
I'm sorry if I wasn't clear on that.
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It's an easy stance to take without providing anything to back it up. Don't mind me, I'm a little oversensitive to unjustified criticism...Perusing a sports fan forum is not the wisest choice for me.
 
Definitely more excitement going into this season than probably the last 5-6 for me personally. It’s nice to finally be out of Olsheys stink that was his form of roster construction. The lone hold over being Anferno who I think is going to flourish in a lead role. The young guys growth will be the main thing I look for initially, if they succeed and the rest of the team meshes well then they might just get some Real excitement! I haven’t even fully grasped what having multiple plus defenders on a team can do, it’s been so long.
 
bemac said:
It's an easy stance to take without providing anything to back it up. Don't mind me, I'm a little oversensitive to unjustified criticism...Perusing a sports fan forum is not the wisest choice for me.
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It's not a stance. It's just how I feel. I'm not being critical. Just haven't been excited yet. Hoping to be excited soon. Nothing would make me happier than having the next Popovich already leading these kids.
 
I'm excited about this team. I think I've come to grips with a few things I don't care for, and I feel like this is a no-lose season. If we lose lots of games? We get another great pick. If we win games, even if it's just to the point of mediocrity, then that will make watching games more interesting than it has been for several years.

I'm cool with potential mediocrity this year because we now have a few young pieces that will grow even if we don't add another young big-time prospect in the next couple of years. This was not the case two years ago when we didn't have Sharpe or Scoot.
 
The good news about Chauncy is that it took him a while to become a great player in the NBA as well, so there is precedent to him learning on the job and reaching the heights that his talent / knowledge allow him to. Add a roster that is built more to how he wants to play - and it is certainly possible that he makes strides and becomes the coach that his resume as a player suggests he could be.
 
blazerfan11 said:
He also won't have any excuses if the team isn't getting down the court fast.
That would mean he hasn't allowed Scoot to run the show.
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Hard to run a lot when you can't rebound. If Portland is starting Ant, Thybulle, and Grant, they will have difficulty rebounding

last season, out of 190 qualified players, in total rebound rate, Grant was 127th, Thybulle was 145th; and Ant was 189th...out of 190. In defensive rebounding rate, Grant was 126th, Thybulle was 165th, and Ant was 187th. Those three will be, by far, the worst rebounding trio in the NBA at the SG/SF/PF positions

for comparison, when talking defensive rebounding rate:

Brogdon at 14.7% vs Ant at 7.6%
Knox at 17.7% vs Thybulle at 9.7%
Walker at 15.5% vs Grant at 11.9% (Dame 12.8%)

47.9% vs 29.2%

obviously, there are other considerations but if I had to point at a major potential issue it would be the rebounding ability of the starting unit
 
wizenheimer said:
Hard to run a lot when you can't rebound. If Portland is starting Ant, Thybulle, and Grant, they will have difficulty rebounding

last season, out of 190 qualified players, in total rebound rate, Grant was 127th, Thybulle was 145th; and Ant was 189th...out of 190. In defensive rebounding rate, Grant was 126th, Thybulle was 165th, and Ant was 187th. Those three will be, by far, the worst rebounding trio in the NBA at the SG/SF/PF positions

for comparison, when talking defensive rebounding rate:

Brogdon at 14.7% vs Ant at 7.6%
Knox at 17.7% vs Thybulle at 9.7%
Walker at 15.5% vs Grant at 11.9% (Dame 12.8%)

47.9% vs 29.2%

obviously, there are other considerations but if I had to point at a major potential issue it would be the rebounding ability of the starting unit
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opponents have to miss shots to get rebounds. The Blazers allowed way too many easy buckets last year. One of the worst at opponent interior FG% allowed. Chauncey's zone defense is not good. If the Blazers shifted to man to man, they'd automatically be in a better position for defensive rebounds. Scrap the Zone Coach !!

Offensive rebound issues was just plain old too many Blazer small ball lineups. Portland has more length and versatility now. Oreb shouldn't be as big of a dilemma.
 
Whyachi said:
opponents have to miss shots to get rebounds. The Blazers allowed way too many easy buckets last year. One of the worst at opponent interior FG% allowed. Chauncey's zone defense is not good. If the Blazers shifted to man to man, they'd automatically be in a better position for defensive rebounds. Scrap the Zone Coach !!

Offensive rebound issues was just plain old too many Blazer small ball lineups. Portland has more length and versatility now. Oreb shouldn't be as big of a dilemma.
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actually, last season, the Blazers were 7th in the NBA in opponent FG% at the rim (0-3')

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they were 16th in opponent FG% in the 3-10' zone
13th in opponent FG% in the 10-16' zone

but they were 29th in opponent 3ptFG%

Portland may be better at offensive rebounding this season, but I was essentially talking about rebounding that could ignite transition opportunities
 

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actually, last season, the Blazers were 7th in the NBA in opponent FG% at the rim (0-3')

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they were 16th in opponent FG% in the 3-10' zone
13th in opponent FG% in the 10-16' zone

but they were 29th in opponent 3ptFG%

Portland may be better at offensive rebounding this season, but I was essentially talking about rebounding that could ignite transition opportunities
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does the stats say how many attempts were allowed inside the paint ? Where were Blazers ranked in volume #'s ?
 
julius said:
Although I have low expectations for this upcoming season (actually the next two), I will say it's kinda how I felt once Drexler was traded. I was ready for him to move on because realistically that team wasn't going to compete for a title with Drexler leading the team, just as they weren't going to compete for a title with Damian on the team as the #1 or #2 player.

That's not saying that the team will compete for at title going forward, but we know what they had with Dame. We don't know what they have with the new group. Could be something fun, could be more middle of the road shit.

I don't know if Simons is the answer, but that really depends on how Sharpe performs this season. If he can be a SF, which to me is a bit of a stretch (no pun intended) then Simons could stay.

All in all, it'll be nice to see growth and progression of Scoot and Sharpe (and to a lesser degree Ayton and Rupert).
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The Drexler team got to the Finals twice, once against a defending champion and once against the GOAT. That sounds like competing for a title to me. At least much more so than never having a single game in in the WCF versus getting to the WCF 3x in a row and winning twice.
 
putbacks! Nurkic was top Blazer, ranked 44th in NBA offensive tap ups. Ayton was ranked 19th. Those are important. Not every offensive set works perfectly like the highlight films. Freestyle big man buckets help.
 
Whyachi said:
does the stats say how many attempts were allowed inside the paint ? Where were Blazers ranked in volume #'s ?
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good point

Blazers were 30th in opponent FGA at rim, but strangely were 3rd in opponent FGA in the 3-10' zone, and actually 2nd in opponent FGA in the 10-16' zone. Maybe it's not so strange in that once a player penetrated the paint it was clear sailing so why stop before the hoop?

that really looks both a schematic and personnel problem. My eyeball said poor rotations last season. A lot of the numbers support that
 
TBpup said:
The Drexler team got to the Finals twice, once against a defending champion and once against the GOAT. That sounds like competing for a title to me. At least much more so than never having a single game in in the WCF versus getting to the WCF 3x in a row and winning twice.
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Yeah, in 1990 and 1992. I'm talking about how I felt about things by the time they traded him in 1995, when the team was clearly done and treading water. That team was not going to go to the finals. Hell, they were 5 games better than the 9th seeded team and missing the playoffs that year (and was only 5 games above .500 when they traded Drexler).
 
Whyachi said:
putbacks! Nurkic was top Blazer, ranked 44th in NBA offensive tap ups. Ayton was ranked 19th. Those are important. Not every offensive set works perfectly like the highlight films. Freestyle big man buckets help.
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Nurkic had the lowest offensive rebound average of his career last season. Small wonder since somehow it became a 'good idea' for Nurkic to shoot lots more three's. Can't grab an offensive board when you're 20' from the hoop. Over his first 8 seasons, Nurk's average shot distance was 5.6 feet. Last year it was 8.6 feet
 
wizenheimer said:
good point

Blazers were 30th in opponent FGA at rim, but strangely were 3rd in opponent FGA in the 3-10' zone, and actually 2nd in opponent FGA in the 10-16' zone. Maybe it's not so strange in that once a player penetrated the paint it was clear sailing so why stop before the hoop?

that really looks both a schematic and personnel problem. My eyeball said poor rotations last season. A lot of the numbers support that
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Blazers were ranked 24th in FG% differential. 25th in 3pt % differential. Meaning a lot of opponents were making their looks at a higher clip then the Blazers.

It's the NBA, everyone is great at basketball. Players can hit from anywhere, and especially if nobody is guarding them too good.
 
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